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The Jobbridge Scandal

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    #5582
    MRnotlob606
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    snubbleste wrote: »
    The new minister Leo Varadkar is abolishing Jobbridge.
    Not clear what will replace it.

    Thank goodness, I was wondering how long more would they continue to flog that dead horse.


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    #5583
    The Raptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    Just renaming it.


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    #5584
    The Raptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    I read the piece on the independent. They're not going to make a decision until a review is done in September. The scheme will remain in place until then and anyone on jobbridge will see out their internships.

    Does anyone see a rise in jobbridge positions being advertised for the summer. Get in there before its finished.

    It could have been easily regulated from day one but Joan Burton turned a blind eye to it with unemployment at its highest. The scheme was to gain experience where graduates couldn't get experience. Gaining experience can take a while but not in a shop stacking shelves, washing cars or picking potatoes on a farm.


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    #5585
    The Raptor
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    Seen a post somewhere that someone was considering jobbridge for a position that they used to get paid for.

    Unbelievable the amout of crap that went on over the years.


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    #5586
    The Raptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,433 ✭✭✭The Raptor


    Now that its being scrapped, how will people get experience they lacked over the past five years because jobbridge took away their chance.


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    #5587
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    snubbleste wrote: »
    The new minister Leo Varadkar is abolishing Jobbridge.
    Not clear what will replace it.

    *Randroid butthurt intensifies*


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    #5588
    starlit
    Registered Users Posts: 12,342 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    FYI link to Irish Independent Article:
    Jobbridge

    It's high time that it be properly reviewed and updated to something more in line with the current jobs market. It is to be replaced with something else just jobbridge itself will be scrapped based on what I gather from Leo in the article.

    Hopefully minimum wage at least.


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    #5589
    Ohbethehokey
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    The Raptor wrote: »
    Now that its being scrapped, how will people get experience they lacked over the past five years because jobbridge took away their chance.

    The same way they did before job bridge was dreamt up


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    #5590
    mikeym
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    Delighted they are abolishing slavebridge.

    The Fine Gael/Labour government twisted the word internship when they introduced the scheme.


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    #5591
    the evasion_kid
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    Ohbethehokey wrote: »
    The same way they did before job bridge was dreamt up

    Sure they have jobpath to replace it...


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    #5592
    Xenji
    Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    the evasion_kid wrote: »
    Sure they have jobpath to replace it...

    That's completely different, but mandatory if you get called for it, a cushy number though, I know people who are or were on it and they have had one meeting in 3 months and do not have to sign on anymore either.


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    #5593
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Xenji wrote: »
    That's completely different, but mandatory if you get called for it, a cushy number though, I know people who are or were on it and they have had one meeting in 3 months and do not have to sign on anymore either.

    What are the council going to do without jobbridge?


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    #5594
    Ohbethehokey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭Ohbethehokey


    Xenji wrote: »
    That's completely different, but mandatory if you get called for it, a cushy number though, I know people who are or were on it and they have had one meeting in 3 months and do not have to sign on anymore either.
    One meeting in 3 months! What the flip? What do they do the rest of the time, is there work as Well or is it just meetings? It lasts for a year....


    Genuninely don't know much about this job path, but it sounds like a waste of time from what i've heard so far


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    #5595
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    Anyone hear that a well known English company opened a warehouse in Dublin, all jobbrigde the staff for picking orders? Specialist retailer with over 70 outlets in Ireland?


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    #5596
    Xenji
    Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    What are the council going to do without jobbridge?

    Take on more TCOs, use the Gateway scheme more or treble our work, the permanent panel should be opening soon as well.


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    #5597
    Xenji
    Registered Users Posts: 11,505 ✭✭✭✭Xenji


    Ohbethehokey wrote: »
    One meeting in 3 months! What the flip? What do they do the rest of the time, is there work as Well or is it just meetings? It lasts for a year....


    Genuninely don't know much about this job path, but it sounds like a waste of time from what i've heard so far

    Jobpath is being ran by two English recruitment firms, basically they try and find you work that suits you, not any old job, they earn commission if they find you employment, they also use JobsPlus as an incentive to any employer.

    You have a few workshops in the first week of it, then you are meant to have a monthly face to face, but it all seems to vary with the two firms and location, they pay for all travel expenses as well, I know of people needing to take over an hours bus journey to get to the centre here.


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    #5598
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    Talkiing about Jobbridge now on 4fm, according to the host of the show, the only people against jobbridge are the long term unemployed forced to go on it or the lefties whatever that means, Well he really needs to do some research seeing as nobody is forced to go on Jobsbridge. The way he goes on about people on Social Welfare is sickening. He keeps going on about people not working yet his own wife doesn't work. I have no choice but to listen to him every afternoon cause its the radio at work.


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    #5599
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Let me guess, it was Niall Boylan being an "edgy" <mod edit> sort of fellow </mod edit>


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    #5600
    livedadream
    Registered Users Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭livedadream


    fin12 wrote: »
    . He keeps going on about people not working yet his own wife doesn't work. I have no choice but to listen to him every afternoon cause its the radio at work.

    what has this got to with anything,

    is his wife on social welfare?
    does she choose not to work?


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    #5601
    rgossip30
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    Job Bridge to be abolished by September .


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    #5602
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    livedadream wrote: »
    what has this got to with anything,

    is his wife on social welfare?
    does she choose not to work?

    It's more likely that she's a stay-at-home wife.


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    #5603
    aziz
    Registered Users Posts: 739 ✭✭✭aziz


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    It's more likely that she's a stay-at-home wife.

    And probably in receipt of children's allowance.


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    #5604
    [Deleted User]
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    There should be a jobbridge scheme in some form. There were so many prick employers that took advantage of it, but there was also a lot that did it properly. They need to be a lot more strict with whom they say yes or no to.


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    #5605
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    They have a disabled child, to the best of my knowledge. If I had to listen to him at work I would quit my job.

    Any of those opinion programmes are just terrible radio. The host never remains impartial, meaning somebody is going to be set upon by him at some point, in a "who can shout the loudest" "me, because you're speaking through the phone" contest. The people speaking generally don't have two useful brain cells to smash together and their knowledge of anything, let alone the topic at hand, is generally woeful.

    On the topic of JobsBridge though, it's predominantly exploited for free labour in lowly-skilled fields. Recruitment agencies should be private enterprises, not the public sector method of procuring employment - it's the government's responsibility to keep unemployment down by incentivizing hiring for companies.

    Here's an idea - how about a minimum number of employees based on profit margins (over a certain amount)? That way, these horrible multinational conglomerates would have to stop replacing cashiers with automated checkouts and providing a generally crap service to customers due to absence of manpower. Just a thought.


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    #5606
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Camden Small Quote wrote: »
    They have a disabled child, to the best of my knowledge. If I had to listen to him at work I would quit my job.

    Any of those opinion programmes are just terrible radio. The host never remains impartial, meaning somebody is going to be set upon by him at some point, in a "who can shout the loudest" "me, because you're speaking through the phone" contest. The people speaking generally don't have two useful brain cells to smash together and their knowledge of anything, let alone the topic at hand, is generally woeful.

    On the topic of JobsBridge though, it's predominantly exploited for free labour in lowly-skilled fields. Recruitment agencies should be private enterprises, not the public sector method of procuring employment - it's the government's responsibility to keep unemployment down by incentivizing hiring for companies.

    Here's an idea - how about a minimum number of employees based on profit margins (over a certain amount)? That way, these horrible multinational conglomerates would have to stop replacing cashiers with automated checkouts and providing a generally crap service to customers due to absence of manpower. Just a thought.

    So completely unincentivize automation and improved efficiency? Let alone destroy Dublin's financial sector. Not the best thought to be fair.


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    #5607
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    So completely unincentivize automation and improved efficiency? Let alone destroy Dublin's financial sector. Not the best thought to be fair.

    Nor is Jobbridge - oh wait, that just screws the poor, as per the Free Market's Commandments.


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    #5608
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Nor is Jobbridge - oh wait, that just screws the poor, as per the Free Market's Commandments.
    ^^^^^^^

    This guy


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    #5609
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    So completely unincentivize automation and improved efficiency? Let alone destroy Dublin's financial sector. Not the best thought to be fair.
    Yeah, I was just spitballing, thinking more in terms of the retail sector...


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    #5610
    civis_liberalis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    JobBridge is being replaced by JobFerry.

    Totally different scheme.


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    #5611
    fin12
    Registered Users Posts: 10,934 ✭✭✭✭fin12


    livedadream wrote: »
    what has this got to with anything,

    is his wife on social welfare?
    does she choose not to work?


    Because he's no problem with his own wife not working but then has a go at others for not working and mocking them. How unemployed people just spend all day in Bed or watch Jeremy Kyle.

    There was another discussion about all social welfare payments being paid into bank accounts so people wouldn't have to collect their dole in the post office and of course he has to say it's pure laziness that people would prefer to be paid into their bank account.

    It's not about laziness at all, when I had to collect my dole at the local post office it was horrible because I knew someone working in there and she was a right gossip, I use to try and work out what days she wasn't working so I could collect my dole, a few times I left the post office without collecting my money because I would have been served by her. So it's got nothing to do with laziness seeing as I asked social welfare to move me to a different post office a lot further away but they wouldn't.

    He hasn't a clue about what it's like.


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