The Jobbridge Scandal

Eight Ball

The government could care less about peoples lives their main concern is getting back into power. They have spent huge on PR staff breaking their own rules on wage caps and our "fair and balanced" media have failed to report the facts. A massive part of their overall strategy is to bring the jobless numbers down and jobsbridge and forcing people to take minimum wage positions is the trust of that strategy.

All the main media outlets including the state broadcaster use jobsbridge workers to keep costs at a minimum so its no surprise they look the other way.

Rabelais

BuilderPlumber wrote: »

The sooner the current regime is gone the better. What did the Irish people vote for?

-An end to corruption, overpaid amateur golfers, spineless politicians, austerity and incompetence.

What did the regime elected on a mandate to end the above do? Make the Fianna Fail regime look like saints by comparison and defended all the above in a way even Fianna Fail didn't. JobBridge along with the disgraceful treatment of the VECs are two of the wreckless policies Enda Kenny (the weakest most capitulating leader since Iran's 1979-89 King/Shah Ayatollah Khomeini: at least, Khomeini had the excuse his very life and family were in danger from dangerous gunmen and had no real choice but to sell out his country to the Taliban and be their figurehead priest) and his subservient team have done.

It is time for change. The JobBridge is exactly what cruelhearted employers wanted. Treat workers like dirt and get the state to pay them peanuts. Thank you, Enda Kenny. Without Khomeini's excuse of being held at gunpoint by an 'Islamic' Khmer Rouge imitator army of peasants, Kenny seemed willing all by himself to sell his country off to the devil.

Tiocfaidh ar la

Are you comparing Enda Kenny from Mayo to the Ayatollah Khomeini from Tehran?!! Jesus, I'll have whatever you're smoking.

Eight Ball

denlaw wrote: »

Most internships posted these days were always paid "learn on the job" jobs, just how long does it take to make coffee, wash a pot, make a sambo, clean an office, this bull**** put out by the small/medium firms shysters and IBEC about them being on their knees is pure bull****, this recession was manna from heaven for them ... Jobsbridge was a lotto win for them..

In fairness what did people expect when they voted for FG and don't say change because even my dog knows that's just a catchy BS slogan.

cuckoo

There's one advertised for a laundrette at the moment. 9 months to learn how to wash, dry and fold clothes. ffs.

And "The intern will hopefully be in a position to fill a vacancy in the business having proved to us that the business could not survive without them." If the business needs someone employ them and train them. If they don't work out let them go during the probationary period.

Turtyturd

Eight Ball wrote: »

The government could care less about peoples lives their main concern is getting back into power. They have spent huge on PR staff breaking their own rules on wage caps and our "fair and balanced" media have failed to report the facts. A massive part of their overall strategy is to bring the jobless numbers down and jobsbridge and forcing people to take minimum wage positions is the trust of that strategy.

All the main media outlets including the state broadcaster use jobsbridge workers to keep costs at a minimum so its no surprise they look the other way.

Funnily enough I think JobBridge is what will cause the Government not to be reelected.

FF will romp home in the next election on the back of ending the scheme and lifting the public service moratorium.

denlaw

Eight Ball wrote: »

In fairness what did people expect when they voted for FG and don't say change because even my dog knows that's just a catchy BS slogan.

FG will always be the party for the rich, that much will never change.. It's the Labour Party, the party of the working class, the party where it's top fella and his wife gross over €250k a year.. Some socialists they are .. Most in the Labour Party these days wouldn't know a shop floor if it came up and bit them on the arse ..

Turtyturd

denlaw wrote: »

FG will always be the party for the rich, that much will never change.. It's the Labour Party, the party of the working class, the party where it's top fella and his wife gross over €250k a year.. Some socialists they are .. Most in the Labour Party these days wouldn't know a shop floor if it came up and bit them on the arse ..

The Labour Party have always been a Labour Party in name and nothing more.

bbam

Another sickening aspect is the fact that the funding for these schemes in the budget is being for at the expense of frontline healthcare and education.

It's hard to get working people to realise just how corrupt the while thing is. The government are delighted joe soap is working to hard to check out what is going on, the government spin a line to them that their tax money is getting better value having the sponges on the dole out working for their benifets. When the truth is the money to capitalise the dam schemes is being taken from their children's schools.

I think the CE scheme has merits, it is what it says, community employment. But TUS is a joke, people are out doing the very same work as the CE staff and this somehow is to be preparing them for jobs !!
The jobs bridge and internship schemes are just corrupt. They are just the governments way of helping business partners out by supplying and endless line of essentially free labour.

People are essentially being sold into slavery by the threat of removing their payments from them.

denlaw

Turtyturd wrote: »

The Labour Party have always been a Labour Party in name and nothing more.

Can anyone name a truely working class labour TD .. Jack wall in in my own constituency was a sparky in a local factory before he became a TD, that's about it, they seem to collect them in uni, being socialist in uni must still be trendy ..

generalmental

Job bridge is a joke. I have actually gone back to adult education and I am sitting my leaving certificate for the first time.
There is a lad who works as the caretaker in the school. Nice lad great worker they really work him hard.
Can you imagine my surprise when he told me he was on the job bridge scam. Its not right abusing people like that.

Drummerboy2

After 15 years in my job I was made redundant about 3 years ago. About six weeks later they took on a ''Intern'' straight out of college. They changed the title of the job but they were basically doing what I was doing. After six to nine months they let the intern go and took on another one. They have continued to do this since I left. Luckily I got new employment. The kids coming of a three year course are well qualified and well able for the job. But they are just using them as cheap labour. Its a disgrace. The company now has about 8 interns, having let lots of long term workers go. Basically JobBridge is just a means of massaging the live register.

dxhound2005

Turtyturd wrote: »

Funnily enough I think JobBridge is what will cause the Government not to be reelected.

FF will romp home in the next election on the back of ending the scheme and lifting the public service moratorium.

The scheme has not affected enough people personally in a negative way to make it the deciding factor in the next election. If the government had reduced old age pensions that certainly would be the case given the numbers that would be involved. But out of a workforce of about 2.1 million, 22,000 have been put on Jobbridge so far. So I don't think that will make it the core issue come 2016.

As far as the moratorium goes Fianna Fail would have to explain why they introduced it in 2009 and why it would be a good idea to lift it. The other parties could easily offer to lift it as well if the economic conditions allow it in 2016.

dxhound2005

Drummerboy2 wrote: »

After 15 years in my job I was made redundant about 3 years ago. About six weeks later they took on a ''Intern'' straight out of college. They changed the title of the job but they were basically doing what I was doing. After six to nine months they let the intern go and took on another one. They have continued to do this since I left. Luckily I got new employment. The kids coming of a three year course are well qualified and well able for the job. But they are just using them as cheap labour. Its a disgrace. The company now has about 8 interns, having let lots of long term workers go. Basically JobBridge is just a means of massaging the live register.

You could report your former employer for a breach of the regulations. They must have falsified their application to be in Jobbridge.

The employer can’t have made anyone redundant in the previous 3 months and the job seeker must have been on the live register for 3 months or more, to discourage displacement.

bbam

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You could report your former employer for a breach of the regulations. They must have falsified their application to be in Jobbridge.

The employer can’t have made anyone redundant in the previous 3 months and the job seeker must have been on the live register for 3 months or more, to discourage displacement.

Waste if time.
Large MNs are being allowed make staff redundant and replace them with interns. The extent of the scandal and corruption of this are just unbelievable.
It won't interest most people until they loose their jobs and are replaced by interns.

dxhound2005

bbam wrote: »

Waste if time.
Large MNs are being allowed make staff redundant and replace them with interns. The extent of the scandal and corruption of this are just unbelievable.
It won't interest most people until they loose their jobs and are replaced by interns.

I read that there are currently 6426 people on Jobbridge and they are looking to fill another 2122 placements. So it is certainly of minority interest. Unless the figures are more like hundreds of thousands and someone is corruptly massaging them.

Boombastic

Xenji wrote: »

I had a intern who worked in my department basically ridiculed and called a idiot by a female member of the FAS staff, she asked here if she had any complaints about the internship and she responded by saying she was unaware that there was no chance that she would be kept on after the 9 months when she took the internship due to the moratorium on hiring in the councils, something I had to explain to her, the woman from FAS turned around and told her " sure any monkey with a brain knew that, it has been going on for years, do you ever pick up a paper or pay attention to the news " utter bitch.

FAS are retarded, I refuse to deal with them. That is all.

Ace2007

Xenji wrote: »

That is one of the worst stories I have heard so far and I have heard many, FAS do not give a ****, any interns we have had in our council department have not been checked up on till the last week of the internship and we hear nothing from FAS for the duration. We had a issue where we sent out the monthly report in the post to FAS and it got "lost" 3 months in a row and not once they they contact us looking for it, for all they knew the intern could of left and would still be getting the extra 50 euro.

You should be able to find some reported that will cover the story for him, if not a paper than a blog or you tube channel of someone that is respected - throw a few links on FB/boards etc, and that manger will never get to abuse an employee like that again.

Xenji

dxhound2005 wrote: »

You could report your former employer for a breach of the regulations. They must have falsified their application to be in Jobbridge.

The employer can’t have made anyone redundant in the previous 3 months and the job seeker must have been on the live register for 3 months or more, to discourage displacement.

That has changed now since they made it 18 months, the cooling off period has been scrapped, you can hire a new intern straight away when one finishes or leaves. The applications are bull**** anyway, none of them are screened before they go up on the website, anyone can put one up, you used to need a 3rd level degree to to one of these internships, that has gone down to just having the Junior Cert now one quite a few internships.

Xenji

bbam wrote: »

Waste if time.
Large MNs are being allowed make staff redundant and replace them with interns. The extent of the scandal and corruption of this are just unbelievable.
It won't interest most people until they loose their jobs and are replaced by interns.

If you employ over 25 staff members you can have unlimited interns working at the same time, we have anywhere between 20-30 interns working in our council at any given time, none I may add that will be getting a job at the end.

Fred Swanson

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Xenji

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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They are just the internships taken from the Jobbridge website, it does not include people who have gone in for interviews for real jobs and then being offered internships, private companies, multinationals, FAS ( Solus ) ect.....

Fred Swanson

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If I recall correctly jobsbridge will provide 8,500 internships which but that there are thousands of internships which will not be listed in the site and as such the true figure is known only to a few.

PopePalpatine

Xenji wrote: »

If you employ over 25 staff members you can have unlimited interns working at the same time, we have anywhere between 20-30 interns working in our council at any given time, none I may add that will be getting a job at the end.

Let me get this straight...county councils are exploiting Jobbridge?

Fuck this country.

Xenji

The figures also do not include how many people so far have taken part in the scheme since its inception, including people who did not complete the full the 9 months and does who have completed the full 9 months or those on their second 9 month internship.

PopePalpatine

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Let me get this straight...county councils are exploiting Jobbridge?

Fuck this country.

Our elected officials were abusing it till the backlash got a little too much. Politicians using it to hire assistants, envelope lickers, secretaries, etc.

Xenji

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Let me get this straight...county councils are exploiting Jobbridge?

Fuck this country.

Every government agency is, we have had over 100 since its inception, we have had so many good ones as well that would've made great workers, but due to the moratorium we cannot hire them, they are basically brought in due to understaffing and to replace people who have retired or left the job, the majority do not even know there is no chance of a job after it. As I said last night one intern had an issue about not being informed there would be no job at the end of it and this bitch from FAS said to her " sure any monkey with a brain knew that, it has been going on for years, do you ever pick up a paper or pay attention to the news "

The government could create thousands of jobs if they did away with the moratorium, but they seem to be systematically trying to dismantle the councils and be done with them.

dxhound2005

Xenji wrote: »

They are just the internships taken from the Jobbridge website, it does not include people who have gone in for interviews for real jobs and then being offered internships, private companies, multinationals, FAS ( Solus ) ect.....

These are the numbers for Jobbridge commencements up until October 2013, 22138. From their website.

http://www.jobbridge.ie/toolkit/JobBridgeData.pdf

Where would I get the numbers for the other categories you mentioned? I confess that I can't understand what you mean despite reading the post numerous times.

Xenji

dxhound2005 wrote: »

These are the numbers for Jobbridge commencements up until October 2013, 22138. From their website.

http://www.jobbridge.ie/toolkit/JobBridgeData.pdf

Where would I get the numbers for the other categories you mentioned? I confess that I can't understand what you mean despite reading the post numerous times.

Sorry if it was not clear, I actually think those figures are probably included in the link you posted, so you would not need to check up on them.

Thanks for the link though, over 22000 people have done a Jobbridge which is a striking figure given how many shops and businesses have gone under in the last few years, seeing that you can now do another 9 month internship that number could easily double by the end of next year, meaning that 44000 jobs may have been filled using this scheme. I wonder what the real percentage is of people getting hired at the end of the 9 months, as the government deem a successful Jobbridge as to be either the intern completed it or was hired.

mothnot

Turtyturd wrote: »

I would take a lot of those kind of stories with a pinch of salt. Starts off with someone being asked to go to the shop 10 minutes away and by the time it has been retold a few times the shop is 2hours away, uphill both ways and they have to pay for the sandwiches themselves. That's not to say there are not instances of them being true but most of these internships taking the piss are identifiable before you even apply.

OMG. here is one for you and this is a fact. Our intern was invited to Christmas dinner where the company was to pay the cost. After working for months at last a kind jester you would say.......:)
The poor guy was handed a bill at the end of the evening for 45 euro. The company had failed to pay the bill and not only did he have to pay for what he ate but also as the bill was divided amongst all that attended he ended up paying for part of managers big meal and paid to cover the total cost of a fellow employees dinner as he was leaving the company....:mad:. Needless to say the position of the leaving employee was not offered to him however he now finds himself working those hours!!!!!! all for nothing.
This is poor EXPLOITATION.......:(