630i or 335d or ?

daRobot

CountingCrows wrote: »

Agreed, I've been looking for almost 2 months now and none of them seem to be moving. Just wondering am I mad paying 17K for a highish mileage 630, will I ever shift it again?

More of a chance than shifting the V8 models however. But I think you'd want to be buying it at 14k, not more.

I'm sure you've seen this already:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/beautiful-bmw-335d-se/5228686

Spec wise it's not bad. Sunroof - iDrive etc. Or was it a M-Sport you were after?

CountingCrows

daRobot wrote: »

More of a chance than shifting the V8 models however. But I think you'd want to be buying it at 14k, not more.

I'm sure you've seen this already:

http://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/beautiful-bmw-335d-se/5228686

Spec wise it's not bad. Sunroof - iDrive etc. Or was it a M-Sport you were after?

People can hardly give away the V8's, the 3.0ltr is holding their values much better. For a 335d, was looking for M-Sport & iDrive/Sat Nav.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

I sold a 645ci 04 with 70k miles 2 years ago (so the equivalent of a 06 today) for less than 10k. 17k is lunacy for a 630i.

daRobot

CountingCrows wrote: »

People can hardly give away the V8's, the 3.0ltr is holding their values much better. For a 335d, was looking for M-Sport & iDrive/Sat Nav.

I'd still go for the V8 as it's the better value proposition, imo. Only the 650i though, not the 645.

You could upgrade the parts on the SE with Nav fairly easily:

http://www.mstyle.co.uk/acatalog/info_B01BM033.html

Just need to dechrome it, and drop the suspension. Wheels would have to be changed also, but at least you have more options. Original Msport wheels are notoriously weak also, so no real biggie there.

You'd need to buy it for 11-12 to make it worth your while though.

CountingCrows

Ada Ambitious Remote wrote: »

I sold a 645ci 04 with 70k miles 2 years ago (so the equivalent of a 06 today) for less than 10k. 17k is lunacy for a 630i.

The owner of blue facelift 2007 630i in my link is holding firm at 19K, what do you think is a realistic valuation?

L-M

If you plan on keeping it for 2 or 3 years no, you're not mad.

If it's just a phase you're going through and you might fall out of it in 6 months time, then yeah, you probably are a bit mad and you need to buy something more saleable.

Matt Simis

daRobot wrote: »

I'd still go for the V8 as it's the better value proposition, imo. Only the 650i though, not the 645.

The 650i is much less common and restricts the selection to high priced more recent examples though. The 645i (and all the BMW V8s really) is excellent in its own right.

daRobot

CountingCrows wrote: »

The owner of blue facelift 2007 630i in my link is holding firm at 19K, what do you think is a realistic valuation?

15k

daRobot

Matt Simis wrote: »

The 650i is much less common and restricts the selection to high priced more recent examples though. The 645i (and all the BMW V8s really) is excellent in its own right.

A nice 2007 650i Cabrio sport sold on octane for 12k recently. Very well specced too, with adaptive cruise. I thought that was great value. O-ring with the X45 engine would worry me.

Tea 1000

daRobot wrote: »

I'd still go for the V8 as it's the better value proposition, imo. Only the 650i though, not the 645.

You could upgrade the parts on the SE with Nav fairly easily:

http://www.mstyle.co.uk/acatalog/info_B01BM033.html

Just need to dechrome it, and drop the suspension. Wheels would have to be changed also, but at least you have more options. Original Msport wheels are notoriously weak also, so no real biggie there.

You'd need to buy it for 11-12 to make it worth your while though.

But there isn't a hope of getting a 650i for 12k.

daRobot

Tea 1000 wrote: »

But there isn't a hope of getting a 650i for 12k.

See my last post. There most certainly is.

Tea 1000

daRobot wrote: »

A nice 2007 650i Cabrio sport sold on octane for 12k recently. Very well specced too, with adaptive cruise. I thought that was great value. O-ring with the X45 engine would worry me.

Sounds great value alright, but cabrio would be worth less. I'd be very surprised at any fresh example of a 650i coupe being sold for 12k.

L-M

Sounds like someone was stuck for money.

You'd nearly get that as a VRT rebate for exporting it, lol.

Tea 1000

Limerick man wrote: »

Sounds like someone was stuck for money.

You'd nearly get that as a VRT rebate for exporting it, lol.

Yep, they'd make 13 or 14k sterling plus rebate!

daRobot

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Sounds great value alright, but cabrio would be worth less. I'd be very surprised at any fresh example of a 650i coupe being sold for 12k.

I don't agree.

Here's the exact car:

http://www.backroads.ie/forums/showthread.php?7582-For-Sale-2006-BMW-650i-Sport-Convertible

L-M

06, not 07. But still.

daRobot

Limerick man wrote: »

06, not 07. But still.

Yep, my mistake. But you've got to admit, it's tremendous value.

Probably not as good as value as a 2005 750i sport that went for 6k recently. But that's a 7'er. Even less desirable by the (misguided- imo) public.

Tea 1000

daRobot wrote: »

I don't agree.

Here's the exact car:

http://www.backroads.ie/forums/showthread.php?7582-For-Sale-2006-BMW-650i-Sport-Convertible

Few points to consider...
He was in a rush to sell, as he was happy to just trade in for 11.5k sterling. Offers above that would be in the region of 13k euro, and it's an 06 rather than 07, and I do still think that a cabrio is less desirable than the coupe.
So I still think a clean 650i coupe is going to be hard to find for 12k unless you find someone who wants it gone.

L-M

If we were anyway clued in we'd be buying all these cars for when the Tax system changes and Motor tax becomes void which is very likely, in the next 12-18 months*


*cough

CountingCrows

Not after a convertible. Plan on keeping car 2-3 years. Would this be a better bet, i.e higher miles but is 6-7K cheaper than the 07 models currently on sale.

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/2006-bmw-630-m-sport/5013992

L-M

I was trying to find that one to link it. He's changed the pictures. It's been up for sale for awhile so I wouldn't be afraid of a cheeky offer.

The only thing I don't like are the tints on the rear lamps and rear windows, other than that it's a fine specimen with IMO the nicest 6er wheels.

Great spec and a great colour.

That represents way better value for money. Much less deprecation to worry about (The highest annual cost with the car).

daRobot

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Few points to consider...
He was in a rush to sell, as he was happy to just trade in for 11.5k sterling. Offers above that would be in the region of 13k euro, and it's an 06 rather than 07, and I do still think that a cabrio is less desirable than the coupe.
So I still think a clean 650i coupe is going to be hard to find for 12k unless you find someone who wants it gone.

Just to be pedantic :pac: Your point was that you wouldn't get a 650i (regardless of year or bodystyle) for 12k. I've shown you that you can.

Serious bargains are out there. But in the majority of cases you're not going to find them sitting in dealers forecourts, it'll be a private seller who needs to move it on, and doesn't have the luxury of sitting on stock waiting for a mug to come along.

daRobot

CountingCrows wrote: »

Not after a convertible. Plan on keeping car 2-3 years. Would this be a better bet, i.e higher miles but is 6-7K cheaper than the 07 models currently on sale.

http://cars.donedeal.co.uk/cars-for-sale/2006-bmw-630-m-sport/5013992

Definitely. I reckon you might buy that for 10k if you really pushed.

gizabeer

Ada Ambitious Remote wrote: »

I sold a 645ci 04 with 70k miles 2 years ago (so the equivalent of a 06 today) for less than 10k. 17k is lunacy for a 630i.

but that was a trade in price no ? so its going to be a good bit less .

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Sounds great value alright, but cabrio would be worth less. I'd be very surprised at any fresh example of a 650i coupe being sold for 12k.

look on carzone ect , verts are more expensive .

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Yep, they'd make 13 or 14k sterling plus rebate!

€3900 rebate at the minute

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Few points to consider...
He was in a rush to sell, as he was happy to just trade in for 11.5k sterling. Offers above that would be in the region of 13k euro, and it's an 06 rather than 07, and I do still think that a cabrio is less desirable than the coupe.
So I still think a clean 650i coupe is going to be hard to find for 12k unless you find someone who wants it gone.

I bought it and it was 13k , just serviced with 4 new tyres and 5 months tax aswell (and detailed and then valeted before collection) , He just wanted a quick sale so I got a bargain , Really nice chap to deal with . 1800 for a years tax is worth it every time it fires up and 25 mpg is deadly for a 4.8 V8 (IMO) , ive put up just over 15k kms in the 4 months ive had it.

L-M

We need pictures!

Tea 1000

gizabeer wrote: »

but that was a trade in price no ? so its going to be a good bit less .




look on carzone ect , verts are more expensive .




€3900 rebate at the minute




I bought it and it was 13k , just serviced with 4 new tyres and 5 months tax aswell (and detailed and then valeted before collection) , He just wanted a quick sale so I got a bargain , Really nice chap to deal with . 1800 for a years tax is worth it every time it fires up and 25 mpg is deadly for a 4.8 V8 (IMO) , ive put up just over 15k kms in the 4 months ive had it.

Best of luck with it! Yep, you got a bargain!

daRobot

gizabeer wrote: »

but that was a trade in price no ? so its going to be a good bit less .




look on carzone ect , verts are more expensive .




€3900 rebate at the minute




I bought it and it was 13k , just serviced with 4 new tyres and 5 months tax aswell (and detailed and then valeted before collection) , He just wanted a quick sale so I got a bargain , Really nice chap to deal with . 1800 for a years tax is worth it every time it fires up and 25 mpg is deadly for a 4.8 V8 (IMO) , ive put up just over 15k kms in the 4 months ive had it.

When it's time to move it on, drop me a pm as I'd definitely be interested.

gizabeer

Limerick man wrote: »

We need pictures!

I'll stick some up when it's clean

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Best of luck with it! Yep, you got a bargain!

Thanks

daRobot wrote: »

When it's time to move it on, drop me a pm as I'd definitely be interested.

No probs , will do:)

CountingCrows

Purchased a 2007 630i Sport over the weekend.

Eric Cartman

CountingCrows wrote: »

Purchased a 2007 630i Sport over the weekend.

that is damn nice, well wear

CountingCrows

A week in and very happy so far. A few pictures after I gave it a proper clean over the weekend.

ofcork

Had a drive in a convertible 630i once,nice power when pushed good luck with yours.

L-M

Open the boot and take a picture from the side, shows the difference the boot makes to the shape.

Lovely car, well wear.

Did it come in budget?

unkel

Well wear

RandomAccess

I reckon the 6 series is a bit like those older mercedes SL's they transcend the reg plate madness.
Plus those large N/A Engines should mean fewer problems.

Supergurrier

Been lusting over a 645ci for a while now

Well wear

Spipov

well wear. what did you use to get it cleaned? im looking for a good shine off mine, just waiting for the weather to hold up. only have autoglym clean, need other products, unsure what to use. (have microfibre towels and 2 bucket method).

Blazer

Spipov wrote: »

well wear. what did you use to get it cleaned? im looking for a good shine off mine, just waiting for the weather to hold up. only have autoglym clean, need other products, unsure what to use. (have microfibre towels and 2 bucket method).

Head over to detailingshed.com and pick up a few pieces.
Autoglym HD wax --really excellent and lasts for months.

Get a foam lance/with cherry orange, clay it and wax it afterwards./..the shine is incredible and lasts

CountingCrows

Limerick man wrote: »

Lovely car, well wear.

Did it come in budget?

€17.5 with full warranty and 5 months tax. I really struggled to find a well spec'd car, well minded car. Definitely not a bargain but I'm delighted with the condition of the car.

Spipov wrote: »

well wear. what did you use to get it cleaned? im looking for a good shine off mine, just waiting for the weather to hold up. only have autoglym clean, need other products, unsure what to use. (have microfibre towels and 2 bucket method).

Autoglym shampoo and wax. Autosol for the exhaust.

coolisin

That is a beauty well wear and enjoy.
Well if its an excellent example, worth the money.

Blazer

beautiful looking car...
I'm on a mission to get the missus driving and get an estate further down the line as a family car and as I told her last night I can then go off and buy my mid life crisis car for my own personal use.

Lex Luthor

Blazer wrote: »

beautiful looking car...
I'm on a mission to get the missus driving and get an estate further down the line as a family car and as I told her last night I can then go off and buy my mid life crisis car for my own personal use.

been thinking myself the last 2 weeks
she doesnt want to drive my estate though even though its newer than her own car
A nice 630i like CountingCrows would be just what I'm after

Although my preference would be a manual with the darker interior as I could see that cream interior get wrecked with my kids in the space of a week

Kalel

Looking at 630i's myself at the moment and was wondering how you are getting on with yours ( looks great in the pics) after 4 months of ownership.. anything I should look out for ..Will be looking at an 06 high spec one..

Thanks

CountingCrows

Kalel wrote: »

Looking at 630i's myself at the moment and was wondering how you are getting on with yours ( looks great in the pics) after 4 months of ownership.. anything I should look out for ..Will be looking at an 06 high spec one..

Thanks

Very happy with it. Got a new battery and software update under warranty, nothing else to report yet. Don't think they have any major common problems to watch out for. That said I wouldn't even view one without a full service history.

Big change coming from a GTI. The size, particularly the length took some getting used too. Interior is a lovely place to be, spacious and very quiet. There is tons of power but its very much a cruiser. Obviously fuel economy isn't great but again coming from the GTI not much of a change. I love the fact there quite a rare car.

Idbatterim

Im also looking at 630's test drove one in sarsfield a few weeks ago, at the prices the dealers are looking for, they are just sitting on the forecourts... kalel, just checked carzone and there is an 07 up, private sale, asking 16950 I think, in wicklow, with sunroof and Hud...