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Abortion Discussion

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    #3332
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,784 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    Isn't an abortion the ending of a pregnancy though?

    Yes, but not according to pro-lifers. so they fall foul of their own definitions by claiming the woman was forced to have an abortion.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #3333
    rawn
    Registered Users Posts: 3,093 ✭✭✭rawn


    koth wrote: »
    The woman in England had a c-section, not an abortion.

    I know, wish she was actually a friend of mine so I could have commented back, it came up on my newsfeed cos a friend was commenting on it. Would love to have waded into that one!


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    #3334
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,932 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    dafuq did I just read? Not even stanley 2 was this bad...

    ...OK, he was a lot worse, but I could barely read that wall o' text.


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    #3335
    iwantmydinner
    Registered Users Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭iwantmydinner


    Life would be a lot simpler if a) people made sure they were correct in their assertions, and b) took three seconds to think about what they were about to say.

    Mudderagad.


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    #3336
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,784 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Booker, Hemming and the “forced caesarian” case: a masterclass in Flat Earth news

    Found as a response to The Watery One (John Waters) piece about the forced caesarian on the IT website.

    From the linked page above:
    The ruling makes it crystal clear that permission for the surgery was sought because psychiatrists said the patient was suffering from psychotic episodes and delusional beliefs (in fact the NHS trust’s barrister said she had a schizophrenic disorder which was psychotic in nature) and because her obstetrician said there was a risk of uterine rupture.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #3337
    mbiking123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭mbiking123


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    God doesn't allow it? Funny, he doesn't seem to be doing anything to stop it from happening.

    http://www.christianpost.com/news/mother-of-miracle-baby-who-survived-abortion-credits-gods-internvention-67705/


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    #3338
    Obliq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭Obliq


    mbiking123 wrote: »
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/mother-of-miracle-baby-who-survived-abortion-credits-gods-internvention-67705/

    https://www.google.ie/#q=conjecture

    conjecture

    noun
    1.
    an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information.
    "conjectures about the newcomer were many and varied"
    synonyms: guess, speculation, surmise, fancy, notion, belief, suspicion, presumption, assumption, theory, hypothesis, postulation, supposition; More

    I see your link, and I raise you one link, also with no explanation as to what I hope to achieve with this post.


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    #3339
    Mr NoTV
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭Mr NoTV


    Jack Kyle wrote: »
    A lesser evil than the killling of an unborn child.

    Dreaming! Are you seriously advocating a Nazi state? You clearly have NO respect for women or anyone from another religion / no religion / ethnic background. The one who carries the child has the right to decide - nobody else.


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    #3340
    Brian Shanahan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Brian Shanahan


    mbiking123 wrote: »
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/mother-of-miracle-baby-who-survived-abortion-credits-gods-internvention-67705/

    I can with equal evidence and likelihood cite the homosexual agenda as the reason the foetus survived to become a baby.

    Or Winnie the Pooh, or Darth Vader or Russel's teapot spinning in its orbit between Mars and Jupiter.


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    #3341
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Ooh, mbiking123 is back! Let's start a pool on whether he's learned about things like discussion, evidence, backing up points and the like!


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    #3342
    28064212
    Registered Users Posts: 10,632 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Sarky wrote: »
    Ooh, mbiking123 is back! Let's start a pool on whether he's learned about things like discussion, evidence, backing up points and the like!
    No, no, they're just going to protest about how this is nothing to do with religion, and complain about the atheists bringing religion into it, while simultaneously posting stuff like this
    mbiking123 wrote: »
    http://www.christianpost.com/news/mother-of-miracle-baby-who-survived-abortion-credits-gods-internvention-67705/

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    #3343
    mbiking123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭mbiking123


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    God doesn't allow it? Funny, he doesn't seem to be doing anything to stop it from happening.

    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/all-things-boats-and-boating/admiral-nimitz-three-mistakes-japan-made-pearl-harbor-38550.html

    Admiral Nimitz - God was taking care of America


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    #3344
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,494 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    mbiking123 wrote: »
    http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/all-things-boats-and-boating/admiral-nimitz-three-mistakes-japan-made-pearl-harbor-38550.html

    Admiral Nimitz - God was taking care of America

    Protecting America, while at the same time allowing his chosen people to be murdered and his servants to **** children,

    Nice,


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    #3345
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,670 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    God to Admiral Nimitz: Chester, is this true?


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    #3346
    mbiking123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭mbiking123


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    God doesn't allow it? Funny, he doesn't seem to be doing anything to stop it from happening.

    <link>


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    #3347
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Mbiking, next link without your own opinion or reasoning will be carded, and replaced with a cute fluffy animal pic of mod choosing


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    #3348
    Absolam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Mr NoTV wrote: »
    The one who carries the child has the right to decide - nobody else.

    Why? And who says, based on what authority? Seems to me the state confers the right to decide, and in Ireland has not conferred the right on the one who carries the child.


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    #3349
    kylith
    Registered Users Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Sierra 117 wrote: »
    God doesn't allow it? Funny, he doesn't seem to be doing anything to stop it from happening.

    Quite the opposite, in fact, He's the world's most prolific abortionist. Something like 40% of conceptions are spontaneously aborted by 'God'.

    Apparently a deity robbing people of pregnancies they desperately want is ok, but a woman who doesn't want to be pregnant is an evil murderous bitch who should be forced to go through a traumatic and life changing event, in some people's opinion.


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    #3350
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,494 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    kylith wrote: »
    Quite the opposite, in fact, He's the world's most prolific abortionist. Something like 40% of conceptions are spontaneously aborted by 'God'.

    They were all gods will damn it, don't question the cloud fairy!


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    #3351
    mbiking123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭mbiking123


    Cabaal wrote: »
    They were all gods will damn it, don't question the cloud fairy!

    Man’s usual response to tragedy is to blame God, as Charles Darwin did after the death of his daughter Annie.

    From Desmond and J. Moore, Darwin: The Life of a Tormented Evolutionist, W.W. Norton & Company, New York, 1991, 387

    “Annie’s cruel death destroyed Charles’s tatters of beliefs in a moral, just universe. Later he would say that this period chimed the final death-knell for his Christianity . . . . Charles now took his stand as an unbeliever.”



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    #3352
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    mbiking123 wrote: »
    Man’s usual response to tragedy is to blame God [...]
    Isn't everything part of "god's plan"?


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    #3353
    mbiking123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭mbiking123


    kylith wrote: »
    who should be forced to go through a traumatic and life changing event, in some people's opinion.

    Was it really that bad for you !

    No wonder you hate God so much, designing women that they have babies. Possibly you would prefer a replicator, next people will say God should make us humans that we never have to be a baby, child etc and avoid teething, nappies, potty training etc etc.

    A machine that just pops us out in our twenties, ready programmed so no need for schools etc etc


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    #3354
    mbiking123
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭mbiking123


    robindch wrote: »
    Isn't everything part of "god's plan"?

    His plan was for man to exercise his free will and get to Heaven


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    #3355
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    robindch wrote: »
    Isn't everything part of "god's plan"?
    The free-willed actions of many Human Beings often aren't part of God's Plan.


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    #3356
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,417 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    mbiking123 - drop the aggro or you'll be turfed out.


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    #3357
    theballz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    god has nothing to do with it.


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    #3358
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    robindch wrote: »
    mbiking123 - drop the aggro or you'll be turfed out.

    Hey! It's hard enough to stay warm in here as things are. Dades is hogging all the heating. I'm bleeding freezing. By all means, throw him out but we need the sods of turf!


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    #3359
    shruikan2553
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    mbiking123 wrote: »
    His plan was for man to exercise his free will and get to Heaven

    We can do whatever we want, but we should do it the way god wants or we burn for all eternity.


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    #3360
    iwantmydinner
    Registered Users Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭iwantmydinner


    Just FYI mbiking, pro-choice =/= baby-hating. Reel in the ole hyperbole.


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    #3361
    Obliq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,371 ✭✭✭Obliq


    mbiking123 wrote: »
    No wonder you hate God so much, designing women that they have babies.

    Um...yeh, mbiking...you appeared to have missed the central aspect of atheism, which is that atheists do not believe in the existence of any deity or supernatural power. So we can't hate what isn't there, now can we? Hating religions......well, that's a different story.


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