Abortion Discussion

lazygal

mbiking123 wrote: »

His plan was for man to exercise his free will and get to Heaven

What about women?

Cabaal

mbiking123 wrote: »

No wonder you hate God so much,

I hate god as much as I hate the Easter bunny or tooth fairy, which is not at all.

I can't hate something that doesn't exist. Same as I can't fear something that doesn't exist.

Why do you hate Thor mbiking123? :pac:

pauldla

Cabaal wrote: »

Why do you hate Thor mbiking123? :pac:

This cuts right the the heart of the matter, and must be vigorously pursued. I await the answer with (eager) anticipation.

old hippy

mbiking123 wrote: »

No wonder you hate God so much, designing women that they have babies.

There is no god. Can we move on, please?

kylith

mbiking123 wrote: »

No wonder you hate God so much, designing women that they have babies.

Well IF they're is a god (which there almost certainly isn't) then he did a piss poor job of this designing, what with our too big baby heads and our too small pelvises. Do me a favour and google 'episiotomy' (a regular occurrence in childbirth) then tell me what a great designer your god is. Why, it's almost like we weren't created by a benevolent and faultless designer at all, but instead evolved via natural selection and random mutation.

I wish you severe constipation so you can have first-hand experience of how something your body is 'designed' to do being painful and traumatic. Then you could imagine it going on for 18 hours or so.

Cabaal

kylith wrote: »

Well IF they're is a god (which there almost certainly isn't) then he did a piss poor job of this designing, what with our too big baby heads and our too small pelvises. Do me a favour and google 'episiotomy' (a regular occurrence in childbirth) then tell me what a great designer your god is. Why, it's almost like we weren't created by a benevolent and faultless designer at all, but instead evolved via natural selection and random mutation.

Not forgetting
- cancer (cell division goes out of wack and the body ignores it)
- appendix (designed to randomly kill you :pac: )

Some great "designs" really,

PopePalpatine

mbiking is about to go full creationist, isn't he?

old hippy

PopePalpatine wrote: »

mbiking is about to go full creationist, isn't he?

Before the wrath (or is it the rapture befalls us), I'd like to know what all this religious bobbins has to do with the choice women have over their own bodies...

PopePalpatine

old hippy wrote: »

Before the wrath (or is it the rapture befalls us), I'd like to know what all this religious bobbins has to do with the choice women have over their own bodies...

It's probably something to do with "ensoulment", something tells me mbiking is about to drag out that "even in the womb I knew you" line from the Bible.

old hippy

PopePalpatine wrote: »

It's probably something to do with "ensoulment", something tells me mbiking is about to drag out that "even in the womb I knew you" line from the Bible.

A womb with a view?

Cabaal

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2013/12/09/a-long-way-from-radharc/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSMbaBwZLm8

In next Sunday’s ‘The Moment of Truth’ Blathnaid Ní Chofaigh talks to Danielle, an Irish woman “who in her late teens became pregnant and travelled to England to have an abortion. It is a choice that has marked her life, but which she still does not regret.”

An RTE Religious programme featuring a guilt-free abortion experience.

There's going to be uproar on Joe Duffy over this one, not to mention a few words written in the Irishtimes

Genghiz Cohen

Cabaal wrote: »

There's going to be uproar on Joe Duffy over this one, not to mention a few words written in the Irishtimes

More than a few if JW get's whiff of it.

Turtwig

RTE IS anti-Catholic!

Nodin

lazygal wrote: »

What about women?

Alas they lack the key to true grace and heavens gate.

robindch

Jernal wrote: »

RTE IS anti-Catholic!

Liberal bias. Political correctness gone mad. Etc. Etc.

aloyisious

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oSMbaBwZLm8

roll on Brenda Power (sunday times) & David Iona (I/Indo columnist)

Turtwig

Uh, wait? What if this is actually some sort of elaborate trap? What if the reason she doesn't regret it is because of all the shame it made her feel and how it made her see the world through God?

Sarky

I'm testing the hypothesis that if that ad gets shared often enough, David Quinn will actually explode with self-righteous indignation and think-of-the-children rage.

It's certainly worth a try. That smarmy bastard makes my skin crawl.

MrPudding

Jernal wrote: »

Uh, wait? What if this is actually some sort of elaborate trap? What if the reason she doesn't regret it is because of all the shame it made her feel and how it made her see the world through God?

What is making people say she does not regret it? The onyl thing i heard in the ad, with respect to regret, was her saying that she knew she would regret it for the rest of her life. What am I missing?

MrP

Sarky

From the video description:

"It is a choice that has marked her life, but which she still does not regret."

Maybe that means RTE are hoping she'll regret it eventually, but despite their boundless incompetence I've never found them outright malicious...

Turtwig

MrPudding wrote: »

What is making people say she does not regret it? The onyl thing i heard in the ad, with respect to regret, was her saying that she knew she would regret it for the rest of her life. What am I missing?

MrP

I was (and still) asking the same question. Though I didn't post it.

Nodin

Jernal wrote: »

I was (and still) asking the same question. Though I didn't post it.

It's in the text under the you tube video.

Turtwig

Nodin wrote: »

It's in the text under the you tube video.

Oh sorry I didn't make it clearer. Still asking if the text was an error.

Morag

She knows she made the right choice back then, she is being very very brave with the interview, I just hope they don't make a mess of it with editing and that she doesn't get heaps of abuse for it.

Obliq

Wow. Fair play to her. I hope the inevitable "disgusted, she's a murderer" backlash isn't too awful. She's doing a lot of Irish women more justice than they've seen from this entire generation of lawmakers. I'd like to shake her hand, tell her if you see her.

Turtwig

Morag wrote: »

She knows she made the right choice back then, she is being very very brave with the interview, I just hope they don't make a mess of it with editing and that she doesn't get heaps of abuse for it.

Alas, even if the editing is perfectly representative of her views, she will get abuse anyway. Whatever she says it will be quote mined and twisted into the worst possible angle and spread among the various self righteous groups. That will look on her as sub human. So they won't really think too much conscience wise of sending the abuse. As far as many of them will be concerned she deserves it.

I hope I'm wrong.

Morag

Well she has a good group of supportive people around her and ARC has offered support as well.
I've done national radio and some press about having had an abortion, sometimes they ignore you
other times you get your email flooded for a week or so.

Sarky

Should be straightforward enough on Gmail at least to set up a filter to file 99% of the abuse under a "stupid hate-filled wankstain" folder using just a handful of keywords...

Obliq

Sarky wrote: »

Should be straightforward enough on Gmail at least to set up a filter to file 99% of the abuse under a "stupid hate-filled wankstain" folder using just a handful of keywords...

I'd say nearly the only key-word needed is "god"

Turtwig

God, slut. Murderer, filthy and shame. Ought to filter most crap.