Abortion Discussion

aloyisious

kylith wrote: »

It is untrue that humans invented abortion. Female rabbits have the ability to reabsorb foetuses if they feel conditions aren't right to have them. Many other species of animal will abandon or even eat their newborns for the animal equivalent of socio-economic reasons such as stress or lack of food. To suggest that not wishing to have children is a human trait is simply incorrect; we simply have the ability to terminate an unwanted pregnancy in a way which ensures that the offspring feels nothing and knows nothing.

I didn't know that :eek: Bring's a whole new meaning to breeding like rabbits.

Obliq

aloyisious wrote: »

I didn't know that :eek: Bring's a whole new meaning to breeding like rabbits.

I knew that. It certainly encourages you to make damn sure a rabbit is comfortable when pregnant *kept rabbits for food at one time*. Pity we don't give the same consideration to humans......

H3aler

kylith wrote: »

It is untrue that humans invented abortion. Female rabbits have the ability to reabsorb foetuses if they feel conditions aren't right to have them. Many other species of animal will abandon or even eat their newborns for the animal equivalent of socio-economic reasons such as stress or lack of food. To suggest that not wishing to have children is a human trait is simply incorrect; we simply have the ability to terminate an unwanted pregnancy in a way which ensures that the offspring feels nothing and knows nothing.

yes it is true, human, strange human, they compare themselve to animal to justify abortation-- animal lacks many thing what human posseses, animal lacks wisdom -- they lacks universal love-- because they are animal-- we human being have kind heart and tenderness -- what strange times has come-- human have to become animal to justify killing/violence and blood shed-- thanks for convincing me that we should become animal to finsh growing life inside us-- A life full with joy and hapiness-- you have everyright to walk on earth -- why not life inside us-- no member in the foram have presented sound arugment to justify abortion-- thanks good day

Delirium

H3aler wrote: »

yes it is true, human, strange human, they compare themselve to animal to justify abortation-- animal lacks many thing what human posseses, animal lacks wisdom -- they lacks universal love-- because they are animal-- we human being have kind heart and tenderness -- what strange times has come-- human have to become animal to justify killing/violence and blood shed-- thanks for convincing me that we should become animal to finsh growing life inside us-- A life full with joy and hapiness-- you have everyright to walk on earth -- why not life inside us-- no member in the foram have presented sound arugment to justify abortion-- thanks good day

You don't consider a womans life being at risk a good reason or fatal foetal abnormalities?

H3aler

SW wrote: »

You don't consider a womans life being at risk a good reason or fatal foetal abnormalities?

I believe only in abortion-- If it is life saving-- A woman who knows in advance that baby could kill her-- then she has every right to save herself-- otherwise i am against all kind of abortion-- we human are protector of life not its destroyer -- I think we have agreement here-- If a woman knows that she is at risk then she has right for abortion-- Thanks:)

_rebelkid

H3aler wrote: »

yes it is true, human, strange human, they compare themselve to animal to justify abortation-- animal lacks many thing what human posseses, animal lacks wisdom -- they lacks universal love-- because they are animal-- we human being have kind heart and tenderness -- what strange times has come-- human have to become animal to justify killing/violence and blood shed-- thanks for convincing me that we should become animal to finsh growing life inside us-- A life full with joy and hapiness-- you have everyright to walk on earth -- why not life inside us-- no member in the foram have presented sound arugment to justify abortion-- thanks good day

Have you actually read the forum?

1. If continuing with the pregnancy will kill both the woman AND the foetus, she can abort.

2. If the woman within a reasonable limit, (for me it's before 30/32 weeks) does not want to continue with the pregnancy for what ever reason, and has decided on aborting it, she can abort.

3. If the foetus when carried to term will not survive outside of the womb, and if the woman does not want to put herself and her partner through that, they can abort.

lazygal

H3aler wrote: »

I believe only in abortion-- If it is life saving-- A woman who knows in advance that baby could kill her-- then she has every right to save herself-- otherwise i am against all kind of abortion-- we human are protector of life not its destroyer -- I think we have agreement here-- If a woman knows that she is at risk then she has right for abortion-- Thanks:)

So there are sound reasons for abortion. What if the foetus won't live outside the womb?

H3aler

lazygal wrote: »

So there are sound reasons for abortion. What if the foetus won't live outside the womb?

how do you know-- do you have knoweldge of unseen-- Are you missah or christ-- Here is another agreement with you-- If you are 100% sure then you could kill the small babies -- I have seen kids living with h0le in the hearts

lazygal

H3aler wrote: »

how do you know-- do you have knoweldge of unseen-- Are you missah or christ-- Here is another agreement with you-- If you are 100% sure then you could kill the small babies -- I have seen kids living with h0le in the hearts

Have you seen kids with no brains living? Or no hearts?

H3aler

lazygal wrote: »

Have you seen kids with no brains living? Or no hearts?

no, I am in agreement with you in this case-- you can kill the baby that can't be cured

PopePalpatine

H3aler wrote: »

yes it is true, human, strange human, they compare themselve to animal to justify abortation-- animal lacks many thing what human posseses, animal lacks wisdom -- they lacks universal love-- because they are animal-- we human being have kind heart and tenderness -- what strange times has come-- human have to become animal to justify killing/violence and blood shed-- thanks for convincing me that we should become animal to finsh growing life inside us-- A life full with joy and hapiness-- you have everyright to walk on earth -- why not life inside us-- no member in the foram have presented sound arugment to justify abortion-- thanks good day

Last time I checked, I couldn't use photosynthesis, so yes, I'm an animal as are the ~7 billion other humans on Earth.

H3aler

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Last time I checked, I couldn't use photosynthesis, so yes, I'm an animal as are the ~7 billion other humans on Earth.

when human think they are animal they have done worst-- What these small cute babies before them-- You can kill these innocent babies and shed blood in the name of your animality--

World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history. Over 60 million people were killed, which was over 2.5% of the world populatio

PopePalpatine

Humans are animals, we don't have chlorophyll running through our veins, we inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide, and we can't photosynthesise.

Also, while WW2 was among the deadliest military conflicts in history, it pales in comparison to the Mongol conquests and Ming Wars of succession - see for yourself here.

truedoom

tl;dr

Dermighty

By the way abortion at 30 weeks is not acceptable to me

H3aler

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Humans are animals, we don't have chlorophyll running through our veins, we inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide, and we can't photosynthesise.

Also, while WW2 was among the deadliest military conflicts in history, it pales in comparison to the Mongol conquests and Ming Wars of succession - see for yourself here.

i think your stats don't include the blood of innocent babies-- Mongols were too animals-- They are hater of mankind like abortations

PopePalpatine

I don't know if the death counts for the Mongol conquests and Ming Wars of Succession include "innocent babies", but it's highly probable.

MrPudding

Dermighty wrote: »

By the way abortion at 30 weeks is not acceptable to me

OK, cool. Cheers for the update. I'll let everyone know. In the meantime, I would suggest not having one at 30 weeks if it is not acceptable to you.

MrP

Bannasidhe

H3aler wrote: »

i think your stats don't include the blood of innocent babies-- Mongols were too animals-- They are hater of mankind like abortations

What????

Also for your information humanity is the most dangerous, most destructive 'animal' on the face of the planet. If we acted like animals the planet would be far better off.

H3aler

Bannasidhe wrote: »

What????

Also for your information humanity is the most dangerous, most destructive 'animal' on the face of the planet. If we acted like animals the plane would be far better off.

ok thanks for suggesting violence but i believe in love and mercy-- I would give my life to save another human life-- That is faith i keep-- that is the love i believe in--you belive in violence and suggest violence thanks

old hippy

H3aler wrote: »

no, I am in agreement with you in this case-- you can kill the baby that can't be cured

I thought you were against killing babies?

H3aler wrote: »

ok thanks for suggesting violence but i believe in love and mercy-- I would give my life to save another human life-- That is faith i keep-- that is the love i believe in--you belive in violence and suggest violence thanks

Who is advocating violence?

robindch

H3aler wrote: »

i believe in love and mercy

You've been red-carded for you hateful comment about Mongols and banned for one week for your subsequent comment about Bannasidhe.

You will be turfed out of A+A permanently if you post in this fashion again.

lazygal

http://www.nationalconventionforlife.org/


A new Yoof Defence event. Jim "I can't call teh gehys fairies" Walsh is a noted speaker at it.

Cabaal

lazygal wrote: »

http://www.nationalconventionforlife.org/


A new Yoof Defence event. Jim "I can't call teh gehys fairies" Walsh is a noted speaker at it.

Declan Ganley as well, feck he'll show up at anything that gets his name mentioned at this stage

Bannasidhe

H3aler wrote: »

ok thanks for suggesting violence but i believe in love and mercy-- I would give my life to save another human life-- That is faith i keep-- that is the love i believe in--you belive in violence and suggest violence thanks

Nodin

H3aler wrote: »

.......... Mongols were too animals-- They are hater of mankind like abortations

It might be just me, but I'm not seeing the "love" there.

Piliger

Nodin wrote: »

It might be just me, but I'm not seeing the "love" there.

Amazing how much hate can be had for his fellow human beings, yet such supposed 'love' for a unborn....

Morag

Dermighty wrote: »

By the way abortion at 30 weeks is not acceptable to me

And it's not acceptable to me either, the protection of life in maternity law states that were a fetus is viable all interventions are to be taken.
In the case of an delivery at 30 weeks, it would be just that a delivery, not an abortion.

kylith

H3aler wrote: »

yes it is true, human, strange human, they compare themselve to animal to justify abortation-- animal lacks many thing what human posseses, animal lacks wisdom -- they lacks universal love-- because they are animal-- we human being have kind heart and tenderness -- what strange times has come-- human have to become animal to justify killing/violence and blood shed-- thanks for convincing me that we should become animal to finsh growing life inside us-- A life full with joy and hapiness-- you have everyright to walk on earth -- why not life inside us-- no member in the foram have presented sound arugment to justify abortion-- thanks good day

Unless it's, you know, a life of hardship, deprivation, and poverty leading to an early death because a woman who knew that she did not have the means to raise a child has been forced to give birth against her will.

Mr. CooL ICE

lazygal wrote: »

http://www.nationalconventionforlife.org/


A new Yoof Defence event. Jim "I can't call teh gehys fairies" Walsh is a noted speaker at it.

Also there's an 'abortion survivor'. Don't ask why, but I always giggle at that term.