J4/J5 [Social Rugby] Season 2013/14

shoutman · 20-08-2013 1:41pm

Losty Dublin wrote: »

You are better off getting an actual pair of runners; that way you will have something to wear should you have indoor sessions.

We don't do indoor sessions, but those astro boots would be grand for this weather i'd say.

Quick fix is just covering your feet in vaseline, should prevent the blisters anyway....

.ak · 20-08-2013 1:49pm

shoutman wrote: »

We don't do indoor sessions, but those astro boots would be grand for this weather i'd say.

Quick fix is just covering your feet in vaseline, should prevent the blisters anyway....

Yeah read that online, will defo give it a go.

I'll probably invest in a pair of astro boots and runners, as I do indoor training myself, but astro boots will be the priority! Will pick up a comfy pair this weekend, cheers.

chris85 · 20-08-2013 4:12pm

.ak wrote: »

Yeah read that online, will defo give it a go.

I'll probably invest in a pair of astro boots and runners, as I do indoor training myself, but astro boots will be the priority! Will pick up a comfy pair this weekend, cheers.

Astro boots would find little grip in even a firm enough pitch. The pitch there is quite grassy also. Would recommend going for a pair of mouldies such as these. Great for any firm grass, I wear mouldies for tag in the Summer and very useful for first few months of the season.

http://www.elverys.ie/Product/Adidas-11Nova-TRX-Firm-Ground-Boot-WhiteRed/220289/0000000605

.ak · 21-08-2013 9:34am

chris85 wrote: »

Astro boots would find little grip in even a firm enough pitch. The pitch there is quite grassy also. Would recommend going for a pair of mouldies such as these. Great for any firm grass, I wear mouldies for tag in the Summer and very useful for first few months of the season.

http://www.elverys.ie/Product/Adidas-11Nova-TRX-Firm-Ground-Boot-WhiteRed/220289/0000000605

Cheers chris, do you wear something like that for training also?

chris85 · 21-08-2013 6:20pm

.ak wrote: »

Cheers chris, do you wear something like that for training also?

At the moment yeah. They are very comfortable to wear and run in.

Bassfish · 21-08-2013 7:22pm

Wish I had invested in a pair of those boots. Went back training yesterday in my winter boots, ground was like concrete. Feet are in shreds, have blisters filled with blood on each foot, ouch!

chris85 · 21-08-2013 10:39pm

Bassfish wrote: »

Wish I had invested in a pair of those boots. Went back training yesterday in my winter boots, ground was like concrete. Feet are in shreds, have blisters filled with blood on each foot, ouch!

Yeah I end up with about 3 pairs a season. Mouldies for tag and early season, a 6 studied boot for normal season here and 8 studied boots for the mankiest of days.

tribalwings · 21-08-2013 11:00pm

Ok lads, sorry to jump in but me and a mate are going to join the local club, never played before, going boot shopping on Sunday.
What should we be looking out for?
I'm seeing a lot of firm/soft ground discussion going on here

Eoin · 21-08-2013 11:04pm

I bought Canterbury boots last season - very comfy, didn't cut me to shreds at first and have been good in most conditions. Cost about 50 quid in Elverys

.ak · 21-08-2013 11:39pm

Bassfish wrote: »

Wish I had invested in a pair of those boots. Went back training yesterday in my winter boots, ground was like concrete. Feet are in shreds, have blisters filled with blood on each foot, ouch!

Tell me about it! My toe is hanging off... Gonna go buy a pair of mouldies or Astros on the weekend, whatever is comfiest!

Bassfish · 21-08-2013 11:42pm

.ak wrote: »

Tell me about it! My toe is hanging off... Gonna go buy a pair of mouldies or Astros on the weekend, whatever is comfiest!

I'm training in my runners tomorrow, would rather a few slips than have my feet torn up like that again. It hasn't rained since so the ground will still be rock hard.

.ak · 21-08-2013 11:44pm

What's left of my toe.. Ha!

http://distilleryimage0.s3.amazonaws.com/a98146e80ab111e3b83922000ae91223_7.jpg

Eoin · 21-08-2013 11:44pm

I'd go with the mouldies - you'll probably get more opportunity to use them. I bought a brand new pair of Puma ones at the end of last season and used them for tag and rugby league (in seriously hot & dry conditions), and had absolutely no problems at all.

These ones here: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/PUMA-MENS-POWERCAT4-12-R-HG-FOOTBALL-BOOTS-WHITE-ROYAL-TEAM-SIZES-6-12-NEW-/330874140589?pt=UK_Football_Rugby_Boots&var=&hash=item4d09a2b7ad

I had to get a half size up though as that's all they had, and it turned out to be a lucky decision - they are a bit tighter.

Edit: No, no, no. Please at least link instead to a picture of a manky foot.

.ak · 21-08-2013 11:47pm

tribalwings wrote: »

Ok lads, sorry to jump in but me and a mate are going to join the local club, never played before, going boot shopping on Sunday.
What should we be looking out for?
I'm seeing a lot of firm/soft ground discussion going on here

I would say check out the local clubs ground, if it feels firm then buy a pair of firm ground mouldies or astros as youll just be doing running/fitness traing for the first few weeks.. But you'll probably need soft ground studded boots, we've had an usually dry summer, but it won't last, so keep that in mind.

.ak · 21-08-2013 11:48pm

Eoin wrote: »

I'd go with the mouldies - you'll probably get more opportunity to use them. I bought a brand new pair of Puma ones at the end of this season and used them for tag and rugby league (in seriously hot & dry conditions), and had absolutely no problems at all.

These ones here: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/PUMA-MENS-POWERCAT4-12-R-HG-FOOTBALL-BOOTS-WHITE-ROYAL-TEAM-SIZES-6-12-NEW-/330874140589?pt=UK_Football_Rugby_Boots&var=&hash=item4d09a2b7ad

I had to get a half size up though as that's all they had, and it turned out to be a lucky decision - they are a bit tighter.

Edit: No, no, no. Please at least link instead to a picture of a manky foot.

Haha, oops, hit img instead of URL.

Admit it, you loved it.

mjquinno · 22-08-2013 8:40am

mouldies are the way to go.

Anyone got a link to the new layout of the leagues?

caoimhincentre · 22-08-2013 11:09am

mjquinno wrote: »

mouldies are the way to go.

Anyone got a link to the new layout of the leagues?

wouldnt mind seeing that myself.
We were talking about it at training last night. apparently if you field an illegal player your team and all the Junior teams in you club will be deducted points.

.ak · 22-08-2013 11:13am

caoimhincentre wrote: »

wouldnt mind seeing that myself.
We were talking about it at training last night. apparently if you field an illegal player your team and all the Junior teams in you club will be deducted points.

Ormond lad posted up a blog post with an idea of what to expect..

ormond lad wrote: »

Rob Murphy on knockon.ie had a look at what leagues would look like and he is probably fairly close to what will happen.
http://www.knockon.ie/2013/06/21/new-metro-divisional-structures/

caoimhincentre · 22-08-2013 11:28am

.ak wrote: »

Ormond lad posted up a blog post with an idea of what to expect..

Thanks for posting but bloody firewall in work wont let me access.

.ak · 22-08-2013 11:57am

caoimhincentre · 22-08-2013 12:01pm

.ak wrote: »

This is the structure the blog in question reckons it'll look like.

Don't know how accurate it is.

NEW DIVISIONAL STRUCTURE 2013-14
DIVISION | TEAMS | STATUS | DAY
Division 1 | 1 St Marys College 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 1 | 2 Clontarf 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 1 |3 Old Belvedere 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 1 | 4 UCD 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 1 | 5 Lansdowne 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 1 | 6 Greystones 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 1 | 7 Dublin University 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 1 | 8 Terenure College 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 1 Old Wesley 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 2 Seapoint 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 3 Navan 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 4 Blackrock College 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 5 Boyne 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 6 Naas 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 7 NUIM Barnhall 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 2 | 8 Suttonians 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 3 | 1 Bective Rangers 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 3 | 2 Skerries 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 3 | 3 De La Salle Palmerston 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 3 | 4 Tullamore 2 | J1 | Sunday
Division 3 | 5 St Marys College 3 | J2 | Saturday
Division 3 | 6 Lansdowne 3 | J2 | Saturday
Division 3 | 7 Stillorgan 1 | J2 | Saturday
Division 3 | 8 Clontarf 3 | J2 | Saturday
Division 4 | 1 Bective Rangers 3 | J2 | Saturday
Division 4 | 2 Terenure College 3 | J3 | Sunday
Division 4 | 3 Lansdowne 4 | J3 | Friday
Division 4 | 4 Old Wesley 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 4 | 5 Old Belvedere 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 4 | 6 Blackrock College 3 | J3 | Sunday
Division 4 | 7 Greystones 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 4 | 8 UCD 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 5 | 1 St Marys College 4 | J3 | Friday
Division 5 | 2 NUIM Barnhall 3 | J3 | Sunday
Division 5 | 3 De La Salle Palmerston 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 5 | 4 Wanderers 3 | J3 | Friday/Sunday
Division 5 | 5 Malahide 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 5 | 6 Dublin University 3 | J3 | Sunday
Division 5 | 7 Suttonians 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 5 | 8 Monkstown 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 6 | 1 Naas 3 | J3 | Friday
Division 6 | 2 CYM 1 | J3 | Sunday
Division 6 | 3 Terenure College 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 6 | 4 Clontarf 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 6 | 5 Wanderers 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 6 | 6 St Marys College 5 | J4 | Saturday
Division 6 | 7 NUIM Barnhall 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 6 | 8 Blackrock College 4 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 1 Lansdowne 5 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 2 Guinness 2 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 3 AIB 1 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 4 Old Wesley 4 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 5 Stillorgan 2 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 6 Parkmore 1 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 7 Coolmine 3 | J4 | Saturday
DIvision 7 | 8 Clondalkin 3 | J4 | Sunday
Division 8 | 1 Newbridge 3 | J4 | Saturday
Division 8 | 2 De La Salle Palmerston 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 8 | 3 Seapoint 3 | J4 | Saturday
Division 8 | 4 Greystones 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 8 | 5 UCD 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 8 | 6 Terenure College 5 | J4 | Saturday
Division 8 | 7 Dublin University 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 8 | 8 Tullamore 3 | J4 | Sunday
Division 9 | 1 Bective Rangers 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 9 | 2 NUIM Barnhall 5 | J4 | Saturday
Division 9 | 3 Millmount House 1 | J4 | Saturday
Division 9 | 4 Malahide 4 | J4 | Saturday
Division 9 | 5 Gorey 3 | J4 | Saturday
Division 9 | 6 Swords 2 | J4 | Saturday
Division 9 | 7 CYM 2 | J4 | Saturday
Division 9 | 8 St Marys College 6 | J4 | Saturday
Division 10 | 1 Unidare 1 | J4 | Saturday
Dtivision 10 | 2 RCSI 1 | J4 | Saturday
Division 10 | 3 Bective Rangers 5 | J5 | Saturday
Division 10 | 4 Terenure College 6 | J5 | Saturday
Division 10 | 5 Railway Union 3 | J5 | Saturday
Division 10 | 6 Monkstown 4 | J5 | Saturday
Division 10 | 7 St Marys College 7 | J5 | Saturday
Division 10 | 8 Emerald Warriors 1 | J5 | Saturday
Division 11 | 1 Clontarf 5 | J5 | Saturday
Division 11 | 2 Clondalkin 4 | J5 | Saturday
Division 11 | 3 Tallaght 2 | J5 | Saturday
Division 11 | 4 Stillorgan 3 | J5 | Saturday
Division 11 | 5 De La Salle Palmerston 5 | J5 | Saturday
Division 11 | 6 Normans 1 | J5 | Saturday

thanks for posting that. Div 7 looks over already. Lansdowne won what will now be division 6 last year but were deducted 40 points.

.ak · 22-08-2013 12:03pm

I'd love to try and make it into the Clontarf J4 team as it looks like a decent div., but I reckon, going by my fitness levels and dodgy leg, I'll be in J5.

caoimhincentre · 22-08-2013 12:04pm

.ak wrote: »

I'd love to try and make it into the Clontarf J4 team as it looks like a decent div., but I reckon, going by my fitness levels and dodgy leg, I'll be in J5.

must have seen you up there last night?? sore feet today!!!!

Teferi · 22-08-2013 12:07pm

caoimhincentre wrote: »

Lansdowne won what will now be division 6 last year but were deducted 40 points.

Terenure won it originally and were deducted 3 points which gave it to Landsdowne but then they were found to be fielding dodgy players so they were deducted 40.

caoimhincentre · 22-08-2013 12:12pm

Teferi wrote: »

Terenure won it originally and were deducted 3 points which gave it to Landsdowne but then they were found to be fielding dodgy players so they were deducted 40.

apologies, i remember looking at it a few months ago when lansdowne were the "Winners".

.ak · 22-08-2013 12:14pm

caoimhincentre wrote: »

must have seen you up there last night?? sore feet today!!!!

Absolutely. I smashed up my heel about 6 years ago so this is the first impact I've put on it, I'm walking around work like quasimodo today.

Hopefully I can build up some strength in that leg over the season.

.ak · 22-08-2013 12:15pm

Teferi wrote: »

Terenure won it originally and were deducted 3 points which gave it to Landsdowne but then they were found to be fielding dodgy players so they were deducted 40.

So who won it in the end? Terenure?

caoimhincentre · 22-08-2013 12:20pm

.ak wrote: »

So who won it in the end? Terenure?

yeah they won it by 6 points but were deducted 4 points also

shoutman · 22-08-2013 1:45pm

As far as I know Clontarf J5 are looking to move up a league and switch with Emerald Warriors. Not sure if any progress has been made in this regard though.

.ak · 22-08-2013 2:04pm

shoutman wrote: »

As far as I know Clontarf J5 are looking to move up a league and switch with Emerald Warriors. Not sure if any progress has been made in this regard though.

What would be the benefit, if any, of that?

LeinsterDub · 22-08-2013 2:07pm

Do RCSI plan to field a team this year for more than 4 games that is ?

Eoin · 23-08-2013 12:36am

Very little difference for us if those are the teams in our division. 1 team is new to us, 1 we played 2 seasons ago and the other 5 were in our league last year. As I've said before though, I'm glad to see some clarity around promotion/relegation and glad that a second place finish gives you a chance of getting a result of sorts for this season.

chris85 · 23-08-2013 8:04am

.ak wrote: »

What would be the benefit, if any, of that?

The Clontarf J5 generally regularly beat the other div 11 teams and usually with decent points gap if you look at last few season, bar the odd match. Think would be more challenging in the div 10 area.

jamesbondings · 23-08-2013 9:12am

chris85 wrote: »

The Clontarf J5 generally regularly beat the other div 11 teams and usually with decent points gap if you look at last few season, bar the odd match. Think would be more challenging in the div 10 area.

I disagree, last year we had a huge influx of new players (due to the world cup) so had a fantastic team and last years run was great. But if you look over the last 4 or 5 years its been real hit and miss due to having a skeleton crew in place. If we have anywhere near the same type of squad as last year we should go up a league.

Just as an aside what happens if say the J5 team made their way through the leagues and ended up going into the same league as the J4 team in the same club??

caoimhincentre · 23-08-2013 9:14am

jamesbondings wrote: »

I disagree, last year we had a huge influx of new players (due to the world cup) so had a fantastic team and last years run was great. But if you look over the last 4 or 5 years its been real hit and miss due to having a skeleton crew in place. If we have anywhere near the same type of squad as last year we should go up a league.

Just as an aside what happens if say the J5 team made their way through the leagues and ended up going into the same league as the J4 team in the same club??

each team can only have one team in each division so if your team won your league to get promoted to the same league as your J4 team you wouldnt get the promotion.

shoutman · 23-08-2013 9:15am

jamesbondings wrote: »

Just as an aside what happens if say the J5 team made their way through the leagues and ended up going into the same league as the J4 team in the same club??

You can't have two teams in the same league, so you just would not get promoted. Similarly if the higher of the two teams were to get relegated, the lower team would effectively be relegated too.

23-08-2013 2:14pm

Hey,

Unidare RFC have been in preseason for about 3-4 weeks now. We have a J4 team & should hopefully have enough numbers for a second team this year. We play our matches in Balcurris park, Ballymun but train Tuesdays & Thursdays @ 7:30pm in St Brigids national school, Wellmount Ave, Finglas. New players are always welcome, if anyone's interested send me a pm or check us out @ www.facebook.com/UnidareRFC or http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/unidare

Mick

cloneslad · 23-08-2013 2:18pm

What was training in Clontarf like over the past week?

I can't do much contact for the few weeks cos I have some races coming up, but would like to get back out and do some training, providing I survive the Frank Duffy 10 miler on Saturday.

.ak · 23-08-2013 2:22pm

cloneslad wrote: »

What was training in Clontarf like over the past week?

I can't do much contact for the few weeks cos I have some races coming up, but would like to get back out and do some training, providing I survive the Frank Duffy 10 miler on Saturday.

No contact yet, plenty of circuit and fitness tests.

Hell'ish, but well do-able.

cloneslad · 23-08-2013 3:21pm

.ak wrote: »

No contact yet, plenty of circuit and fitness tests.

Hell'ish, but well do-able.

I might pop up on Monday then

stephen_n · 26-08-2013 1:41pm

Lads started back last week, I can't train with the team cause of commitments but our season never really ended as we had a tournament at the end of May and then had TRX twice a week for fitness through out the summer.

Doesn't matter how much preseason you do or how fit you are, you'll still be in bits after the first game, nothing but matches give you that sort of fitness that contact requires.

Eoin · 26-08-2013 1:44pm

That's my excuse too!

.ak · 26-08-2013 1:48pm

I'll be interested to see if I can last til our first game...

I feel like Mr. Glass, have already picked up a few knocks and we haven't started contact training yet. :P Loving it so far tho. Strangely excited every time a training day rolls by...

Eoin · 26-08-2013 2:46pm

.ak wrote: »

Strangely excited every time a training day rolls by...

Don't worry, that'll fade when you're looking out the window on a Thursday afternoon and it's already pitch dark, pissing down and even polar bears are shivering.

cloneslad · 26-08-2013 3:39pm

.ak wrote: »

I'll be interested to see if I can last til our first game... I feel like Mr. Glass, have already picked up a few knocks and we haven't started contact training yet. :P Loving it so far tho. Strangely excited every time a training day rolls by...

Eoin wrote: »

Don't worry, that'll fade when you're looking out the window on a Thursday afternoon and it's already pitch dark, pissing down and even polar bears are shivering.

Don't listen to him...Clontarf trains on Monday / wednesday...you'll be grand on Thursday

molloyjh · 26-08-2013 4:45pm

When does contact start ak? Have been looking around for a club and tbh the options out my way are thin on the ground. I'm down to Unidare and Clontarf. I've a mate who lives out by Clontarf that used to play. He mentions taking it back up now and again so I might try and talk him into it. Would love to get started this week if I can.

.ak · 26-08-2013 4:46pm

molloyjh wrote: »

When does contact start ak? Have been looking around for a club and tbh the options out my way are thin on the ground. I'm down to Unidare and Clontarf. I've a mate who lives out by Clontarf that used to play. He mentions taking it back up now and again so I might try and talk him into it. Would love to get started this week if I can.

Think it's still a week or two away. Hope so anyway as I'm trying to mend a leg!

molloyjh · 26-08-2013 4:48pm

.ak wrote: »

Think it's still a week or two away. Hope so anyway as I'm trying to mend a leg!

Grand. I need the fitness work!

26-08-2013 4:49pm

Hey Unidare are training tomorrow & Thursday @ 7:30pm in Mount Temple on the Malahide rd (just for this week, so we can get some scrum practice in!). Back to St Brigids as normal next week. Feel free to pop down if you want to have a look.

Pudsy33 · 26-08-2013 5:25pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Hey Unidare are training tomorrow & Thursday @ 7:30pm in Mount Temple on the Malahide rd (just for this week, so we can get some scrum practice in!). Back to St Brigids as normal next week. Feel free to pop down if you want to have a look.

How come you guys pulled out of the Tallaght match?

Edit: I've been informed it was RCSI, and not yourselves, apologies.

J4/J5 [Social Rugby] Season 2013/14

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