Qualifiers Rounds 3 and 4

audman

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Since when?

Since you spelt it wrong Sir Charlie.

audman

Neeson wrote: »

They're talking about big parties in galway. These lads need to get a hold of themselves, stay off the beer, they haven't achieved anything yet.

There are parties here regardless. The best place to be when the sun is out. Would you come down the arch for a bottle later Nesson?

Defiler Of The Coffin

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Any other time of the game and that would've been a quality point from the sideline. Completely brainless point though.

Just like Goulding's last free against Kerry!

For Kildare to lose by 2 points after all their wasted scores in the first half must be galling. They just haven't had that killer instinct in the first halves of this campaign at all, it's cost them dearly. Tyrone were no means impressive but they've done just enough. They'll need to seriously ramp it up against Meath which I expect they will.

Neeson

audman wrote: »

There are parties here regardless. The best place to be when the sun is out. Would you come down the arch for a bottle later Nesson?

I don't be doing the drinking.

Neeson

The boys never said anything about Laois at all except they won.

Max Power1

audman wrote: »

Since you spelt it wrong Sir Charlie.

*cough* spelled *cough*

"Spelt" is actually totally unrelated to the verb "spelling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

audman

Max Power1 wrote: »

*cough* spelled *cough*

"Spelt" is actually totally unrelated to the verb "spelling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

I'm ddrggg sorry mjjj I must have made them gjfdsdg mistakes because I am intoxicated jkhfdd celebrating Galway winning jjkjhg.

Mardy Bum

Max Power1 wrote: »

*cough* spelled *cough*

"Spelt" is actually totally unrelated to the verb "spelling".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelt

http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/irregular-verbs/spell.html

May have went for the American version.

audman

Mardy Bum wrote: »

http://www.usingenglish.com/reference/irregular-verbs/spell.html

May have went for the American version.

Hahahahaha up ya boy ya Max Power Yes indeed Mardy Bum, my grandparents are of American heritage

Lemlin

Is there any chance the Cavan London game could be in Croker at 3 next Saturday?

Have the GAA ever done 3 games on the one day before. I think they did but can't remember exactly when.

Flukey

Lemlin wrote: »

Is there any chance the Cavan London game could be in Croker at 3 next Saturday?

Have the GAA ever done 3 games on the one day before. I think they did but can't remember exactly when.

Lemlin, a good GAA fan like yourself asking a question like that? Yes of course they have done 3 games on the one day. I doubt they'll put the 3 in Croke Park next Saturday, but it certainly wouldn't be the first time if they did. The first game of the day may not be a big game, but they often have three.

mfceiling

leonidas83 wrote: »

Dont have a sister. I know Sh*te when I see SH*TE. It just so happens that cavan are just that

leonidas83 wrote: »

BATEING A SH*TE FERMANAGH TWICE & GETTING A POXY RESULT AGAINST ARMAGH MAINLY BECAUSE THEIR MANAGER IS A F*CKING IDIOT OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. Thats what Cavan have achieved this year, I wouldnt be writing home about it

leonidas83 wrote: »

I'd give Cavan odds of about 20/1 & you can get up the fu*king yard with your delusional posts

leonidas83 wrote: »

A Cavan win would be the biggest upset of the round imo & possibly of all the qualifiers so far. As for the odds they might aswell be 30/1 as I cant see anyway Cavan will come out of Derry with a win.

leonidas83 wrote: »

id like to see you say that to my face & no, there was a money back special if the game was a draw.

Just heard the result of the cavan derry match.

Cavan won...

Flukey

Leonidas83 is probably off having the consolation of a box of chocolates.:)

Lemlin

Flukey wrote: »

Lemlin, a good GAA fan like yourself asking a question like that? Yes of course they have done 3 games on the one day. I doubt they'll put the 3 in Croke Park next Saturday, but it certainly wouldn't be the first time if they did. The first game of the day may not be a big game, but they often have three.

I meant 3 senior football games though. Not like a minor or Tommy Murphy or Lory Meagher hurling game.

bigtimecharlie

There won't be 3 games in Croker next Saturday, extra time etc would play havoc

Lemlin

bigtimecharlie wrote: »

There won't be 3 games in Croker next Saturday, extra time etc would play havoc

I don't think it would to be honest. 2 hours between matches leaves time for extra time.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Lemlin wrote: »

I don't think it would to be honest. 2 hours between matches leaves time for extra time.

No it doesn't, pitch needs to be free for approx 30 mins before kick off. Warm-ups are usually 20 mins plus all the other stuff that goes on before a championship game, e.g. Amhrain na bhFiann.

Lemlin

THFC wrote: »

No it doesn't, pitch needs to be free for approx 30 mins before kick off. Warm-ups are usually 20 mins plus all the other stuff that goes on before a championship game, e.g. Amhrain na bhFiann.

Well they aren't worrying too much about that scheduling one game at 5 and another at 7.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Lemlin wrote: »

Well they aren't worrying too much about that scheduling one game at 5 and another at 7.

If the first game goes to ET the second game would obviously be delayed, are you actually trying to deny that? Teams normally take 20 minutes minimum to warm up.

Game 1 is due to finish around half 6, possibly 20 past 6 if things went quickly, is ET were to be played there would be minimum 5 minute break plus 20 minutes, which would likely bring game 1 up until 7 pm.

Not a hope the second game wouldn't be delayed if there was ET in the first.

Fireball07

THFC wrote: »

If the first game goes to ET the second game would obviously be delayed, are you actually trying to deny that? Teams normally take 20 minutes minimum to warm up.

Game 1 is due to finish around half 6, possibly 20 past 6 if things went quickly, is ET were to be played there would be minimum 5 minute break plus 20 minutes, which would likely bring game 1 up until 7 pm.

Not a hope the second game wouldn't be delayed if there was ET in the first.

There was a triple header in Thurles last year, one football, two hurling (Wexford-Tipp, Wexford-Cork, Clare-Limerick).

None went to extra time though, but if they had I'd say they'd just delay one game by half an hour.


That's what they did with KK-Waterford after Clare-Wexford went to extra-time.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Fireball07 wrote: »

There was a triple header in Thurles last year, one football, two hurling (Wexford-Tipp, Wexford-Cork, Clare-Limerick).

None went to extra time though, but if they had I'd say they'd just delay one game by half an hour.


That's what they did with KK-Waterford after Clare-Wexford went to extra-time.

Half an hour would be sufficient, but Lemlin was suggesting a delay wouldn't be necessary.

Lemlin

THFC wrote: »

Half an hour would be sufficient, but Lemlin was suggesting a delay wouldn't be necessary.

Where did I suggest a delay wasn't necessary? Even if the two hours wouldn't allow time for extra time, as mentioned above a short delay could be allowed.

And 20 minutes of warming up isn't necessarily needed. Cavan did a very short warm up yesterday because of the heat. It's not ideal but teams can stretch in dressing rooms.

And, as I also said and you ignored, your point is a bit of a null point seeing as they already have 2 matches scheduled two hours apart.

You also said the anthem would delay matches. The last double header I was at they only played it before the second game.

celt262

Cavan and London will be in Clones i reckon.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Lemlin wrote: »

Where did I suggest a delay wasn't necessary? Even if the two hours wouldn't allow time for extra time, as mentioned above a short delay could be allowed.

And 20 minutes of warming up isn't necessarily needed. Cavan did a very short warm up yesterday because of the heat. It's not ideal but teams can stretch in dressing rooms.

And, as I also said and you ignored, your point is a bit of a null point seeing as they already have 2 matches scheduled two hours apart.

You also said the anthem would delay matches. The last double header I was at they only played it before the second game.

My apologies, I thought you were saying a delay wouldn't be necessary. I agree most teams can do stretches in the dressing room but most teams do min 10 mins ball work and running.
Last 4 double headers I was at (Club finals, league semi-finals, Galway league matches in Pearse Stadium & AI QFs last year) the anthem was played before both from what I remember.

Lemlin

THFC wrote: »

My apologies, I thought you were saying a delay wouldn't be necessary. I agree most teams can do stretches in the dressing room but most teams do min 10 mins ball work and running.
Last 4 double headers I was at (Club finals, league semi-finals, Galway league matches in Pearse Stadium & AI QFs last year) the anthem was played before both from what I remember.

At the Leinster semi finals it was only played before the Kildare Dublin game.

I still don't think an adequate reason has been given that 3 games couldn't work.

Taffy Kat

Lemlin wrote: »

At the Leinster semi finals it was only played before the Kildare Dublin game.

I still don't think an adequate reason has been given that 3 games couldn't work.

I remember a few triple headers at Croke Park when Kilkenny played a minor and senior match and there was a senior football game sandwiched in between. Ok it wasn't three senior ties but the principle was the same so I don't see why it can't be done. It would also be nice to give London a run out at Croke Park as they're not likely to get the chance again. In fairness there are sides of the same level, or worse, in Leinster who regularly get a chance to play on the big stage.

Typically they play Amrhan na bhFiann before the 'main match' which would be the last one.

intellectual dosser

intellectual dosser wrote: »

My initial predictions:

Galway vs Armagh, winners play Cork
Wexford vs Laois, winners play Donegal/Monaghan
Kildare vs Tyrone, winners play Meath
Derry vs Cavan, winners play Mayo/London

3/4 ain't good enough with the bookies. It shows how much I know given that I thought Armagh would overcome Galway with ease - and fair play to Galway for proving me wrong its a great thing for them after so many disappointing years.

Here I go for this week.

Galway v Cork
Laois v Donegal
Tyrone v Meath
Cavan v London

I think a lot of people will probably go with Tyrone, but Meath can always fight at any level and I'm giving them the nod, even if I cant explain it properly yet myself!

DDC1990

I think Tyrone will win, but now that I think of it Meath have had their last 2 games in Croke Park.

That advantage could be vital in a tight game.

The open spaces will suit Meath's speed down to the ground.

Should be a cracker of a game.

Tom Joad

I might throw a few bob on Meath to beat Tyrone and tempted to put another few bob on Galway to beat Cork. Didn't see much of the Galway Armagh game so can't judge how good Galway were but Cork can be taken when they are raging hot favourites as they seem to be here and I'd fancy Counihan to make a balls of picking the team..

Dubliner28

Cork Donegal Meath and Cavan for me too.

Taffy Kat

Galway v Cork
Laois v Donegal
Tyrone v Meath
Cavan v London

For me, Tyrone are stronger than Meath and Laois and Galway are hitting form at the right moment.

J Cheever Loophole

Pappa Charlie wrote: »

Here Precious2 wrote: »

Handy one on the way for the rebels in Galway

Corcaigh Abu

Armagh thought that too!

No they didn't. Many in Armagh felt the odds for this match were ridiculous and so it proved. The better of two average teams won.

Good luck to Galway - deserved your win - I hope youse can improve and give Cork a real rattle. As for ourselves, roll on next year!!

intellectual dosser

From GAA.ie

Saturday July 27th

London v Cavan, Croke Park, 3pm
Donegal v Laois, Carrick-on-Shannon, 5pm
Cork v Galway, Croke Park, 5pm
Meath v Tyrone, Croke Park, 7pm (Live on RTÉ)

intellectual dosser

The GAA have confirmed that there will be a triple header in Carrick on Shannon with the two ladies games and the Donegal v Laois game all taking place on Saturday. This means that tickets will be even harder to come across as the counties represented in the ladies (Clare, Kildare & Westmeath) will also have ticket requirements.

I have nothing against ladies football or Carrick on Shannon, but this is a terrible solution overall and clearly the GAA are feeling obliged to give Carrick on Shannon a turn. As a Donegal fan I'd even rather the game was in O'Moore Park in Portlaois to allow more people to attend.

keane2097

Anyone know what the story is with leaving and coming back in Croke Park on Saturday? i.e. if I wanted to watch the first game, leave for the second and come back for the third? Presume it's a no-go?

Crash Bang Wall

keane2097 wrote: »

Anyone know what the story is with leaving and coming back in Croke Park on Saturday? i.e. if I wanted to watch the first game, leave for the second and come back for the third? Presume it's a no-go?

I very much doubt if you will get in and out. Your ticket will be scanned going in the first time.

Moneymaker

Ludicrous decision to have Galway and Cork play in Croke Park Saturday, then have the hurlers of both counties in Thurles the very next day.

Screwing over the fans and it will hurt the attendance at both games.

No reason at all they can't have a triple header at Thurles and have Laois/Donegal in Croke Park. Thurles would be packed and Laois and Donegal would both bring strong followings.

Utter fools the GAA.

Gaillimh1976

Moneymaker wrote: »

Ludicrous decision to have Galway and Cork play in Croke Park Saturday, then have the hurlers of both counties in Thurles the very next day.

Screwing over the fans and it will hurt the attendance at both games.

No reason at all they can't have a triple header at Thurles and have Laois/Donegal in Croke Park. Thurles would be packed and Laois and Donegal would both bring strong followings.

Utter fools the GAA.

Totally agree - was talking to a Cork man after the Armagh game and we were both thinking it would be a triple header in Thurles. Makes no sense to do what they have, except they think they can screw an extra few quid out of the few who would follow both teams

Padkir

Moneymaker wrote: »

Ludicrous decision to have Galway and Cork play in Croke Park Saturday, then have the hurlers of both counties in Thurles the very next day.

Screwing over the fans and it will hurt the attendance at both games.

No reason at all they can't have a triple header at Thurles and have Laois/Donegal in Croke Park. Thurles would be packed and Laois and Donegal would both bring strong followings.

Utter fools the GAA.

Will Thurles not be a full house with just the hurling anyway? Hard to see how you could fit fans of two Galway teams, two Cork teams, Kilkenny and Clare into Semple on knockout Championship day.

ArmaniJeanss

Moneymaker wrote: »

No reason at all they can't have a triple header at Thurles.

Utter fools the GAA.

What time would you envisage the 3 games on a Sunday?
Bear in mind that the TV station who've paid money for the two hurling quarter finals would expect these two games to be one after the other and neither to be at a silly time.

Moneymaker

Padkir wrote: »

Will Thurles not be a full house with just the hurling anyway? Hard to see how you could fit fans of two Galway teams, two Cork teams, Kilkenny and Clare into Semple on knockout Championship day.

Hasn't been full or anywhere close to it the last few years.

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

What time would you envisage the 3 games on a Sunday?
Bear in mind that the TV station who've paid money for the two hurling quarter finals would expect these two games to be one after the other and neither to be at a silly time.

Football could go on after the hurling.

InchicoreDude

My Predictions:

London v Cavan, Croke Park, 3pm
Donegal v Laois, Carrick-on-Shannon, 5pm
Cork v Galway, Croke Park, 5pm
Meath v Tyrone, Croke Park, 7pm

Moneymaker

My Predictions: Cavan, Donegal, Cork, Meath

Meath are more then capable of beating Tyrone and if I was a Meath man I wouldn't be fearing them based on their display vs Kildare.

The rest of the games should be simple enough victories, even a struggling Donegal will be too strong for Laois, Cork will make handy work of Galway(4-5 points) and obviously Cavan will beat London.

Fr Tod Umptious

They said on the Sunday Game that only two loosing provincial finalists have every managed to beat the 6 day turn around.
Down did it last year v Tipp but out of curiosity does anyone know who the other was ?

Padkir

Moneymaker wrote: »

Hasn't been full or anywhere close to it the last few years.



Football could go on after the hurling.

How much can Semple hold?

Maybe I'm being naive here but I would have thought knockout hurling between Galway - Clare and Kilkenny - Cork would go a long way towards filling it.

ArmaniJeanss

Moneymaker wrote: »

Football could go on after the hurling.

So 6/6.15 on a Sunday evening for the football. Thats fairly novel isn't it?
I'm not saying its wouldn't work but to call them 'utter fools' for not doing so seems unfair.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

They said on the Sunday Game that only two loosing provincial finalists have every managed to beat the 6 day turn around.
Down did it last year v Tipp but out of curiosity does anyone know who the other was ?

Just looking through past championships (slow day), no other team seem to have done it, unless the dates on wiki are wrong.

Dub did it in '01 but they had 7 days (lost on 15/7, won on 22/7), as did Fermanagh in in '08 (lost on 27/7, won on 3/8).

No losing provincial finalist qualified in 2003, 2004 or 2010.

In 2005 all provincial finalists made it through but there was no 6 day turn around.

Moneymaker

Padkir wrote: »

How much can Semple hold?

Maybe I'm being naive here but I would have thought knockout hurling between Galway - Clare and Kilkenny - Cork would go a long way towards filling it.

50,000+

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

So 6/6.15 on a Sunday evening for the football. Thats fairly novel isn't it?
I'm not saying its wouldn't work but to call them 'utter fools' for not doing so seems unfair.

I just think it's grossly unfair on Cork and Galway fans and will stretch the average persons budget to its limits and they'll be forced to pick one or the other.

InchicoreDude

Moneymaker wrote: »

50,000+



I just think it's grossly unfair on Cork and Galway fans and will stretch the average persons budget to its limits and they'll be forced to pick one or the other.

Its not even about money. It's just that it is a tiring weekend to go to Croke Pk AND then Thurles. It involves a lot of travelling. It is not too bad for me cos I live in Dublin at the moment. But for somebody living in Galway, they travel to and from Dublin on the Saturday, then to and from Thurles on Sunday. That's asking a lot from even the most dedicated GAA fans.

Anyway, I will definitely go to the football. Will see about the hurling.

The last few times I was in Croke Pk, I bought tickets on the day. However, I usally got a ticket towards one of the corners. This week, I intended to but my ticket earlier to get a more central seat. However, I still havent gotten my ticket for tomorrow yet (as some friends said they would join me and I was waiting on confirmation from them). Would I be more likely to get a ticket away from the corner if I bought in Centra for example? Rather than waiting for tomorrow? Also, if I go to Centra, can they tell me the section of the ticket before I get it?

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Agree with your point re tiredness, but money for most people would pay an equal, if not bigger factor, toll roads are the killer.

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Would I be more likely to get a ticket away from the corner if I bought in Centra for example? Rather than waiting for tomorrow? Also, if I go to Centra, can they tell me the section of the ticket before I get it?

I've gotten tickets in Super Value once before and they were central enough, much better than the tickets to be got on the day. The tickets will have the section and seat number on them so you can just ask the shop attendant what section they're in. Tickets on the day will be in either the Davin, or the corner sections. As for getting them in Dublin, will they have them in shops up there?? Would assume they were only distributed to the counties involved.