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The Open Championship 2013 - *** no gambling/streams ***

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    #482
    seligehgit
    Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Great to see a golfer and caddy maintain a friendship for as long as Phil and Bones have....1992.


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    #483
    Rikand
    Registered Users Posts: 20,360 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Always loved Phil and truly delighted to see him get the win! He played amazing over the last 6 holes! :D

    Well deserved and a great champion!


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    #484
    realgolfgeek
    Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭realgolfgeek


    Anyone know what steve said to tiger after the round ?


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    #485
    Rikand
    Registered Users Posts: 20,360 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    realgolfgeek wrote: »
    Anyone know what steve said to tiger after the round ?

    "I'm going to beat Nicklaus record of major wins before you do.... neener neener neener!"


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    #486
    Benny Cake
    Registered Users Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    Delighted for Mcikelson, a real gent and worthy winner....


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    #487
    John Divney
    Registered Users Posts: 998 ✭✭✭John Divney


    Great stuff from Poulter too, was screaming for him to keep the birdie run going.

    Phil is on another level recently, to do that in the home stretch on that course, in those condition, was as good as it gets.

    Anyone think Westwood is very contrary in interviews in general, just seems as if ewe're supposed to like him, when he's actually a bit of a mardy git.

    When Hazel had him in the glass dome for an interview yesterday was like pulling teeth.


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    #488
    ForeRight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    John Divney wrote: »
    Great stuff from Poulter too, was screaming for him to keep the birdie run going.

    Phil is on another level recently, to do that in the home stretch on that course, in those condition, was as good as it gets.

    Anyone think Westwood is very contrary in interviews in general, just seems as if ewe're supposed to like him, when he's actually a bit of a mardy git.

    When Hazel had him in the glass dome for an interview yesterday was like pulling teeth.


    He looks like Darren Clarke I think.
    IMO he will be lucky to win one major like Darren did in his twilight years.


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    #489
    Boskowski
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,361 ✭✭✭Boskowski


    The irony of dishing someone for struggling to win his 15th! major.
    I get how one might not like the man but seriously...


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    #490
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,898 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I dont think leading on final day suited Westwood.

    He will have his best chance with a hot last round and in the clubhouse.


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    #491
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,898 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Boskowski wrote: »
    The irony of dishing someone for struggling to win his 15th! major.
    I get how one might not like the man but seriously...

    That is a fair point. But, there is a genuine debate about , if Tiger will ever be the same, if he will get the record, his legacy as a player and a person.

    He is the player of our generation and golf fans have strong views on both sides. Like the Roy Keane debate in a way.


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    #492
    Jack Kyle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭Jack Kyle


    I've always thought that Westwood is utterly dislikable.

    Delighted for Phil.

    The "nice guy act" is rumoured to be just that though...an act.

    Fair play to him though...he spotted a gap in the market (i.e. the anti-Woods charmer) and has marketed himself thus.

    And he's exciting to watch.

    I would love to see the old Tiger who in my view had more of a go at it.


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    #493
    FixdePitchmark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,898 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    John Divney wrote: »
    Great stuff from Poulter too, was screaming for him to keep the birdie run going.

    Phil is on another level recently, to do that in the home stretch on that course, in those condition, was as good as it gets.

    Anyone think Westwood is very contrary in interviews in general, just seems as if ewe're supposed to like him, when he's actually a bit of a mardy git.

    When Hazel had him in the glass dome for an interview yesterday was like pulling teeth.

    I think Lee knows the media need the "never won the major" character . Some of the people that are asking him question about golf havent a clue. He has that sort of Ironic sense of humour , I think he is trying to be funny, but gets lost a bit in translation sometimes.

    The camera in your face just after a major loss is a pain in the hole.


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    #494
    Jimmy Iovine
    Registered Users Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    FixdePitchmark wrote: »
    That is a fair point. But, there is a genuine debate about , if Tiger will ever be the same, if he will get the record, his legacy as a player and a person.

    He is the player of our generation and golf fans have strong views on both sides. Like the Roy Keane debate in a way.

    I get that there may be a debate about him as a person. He treated his wife very, very poorly and he does seem to be a bit cold.

    There is no question at all about his legacy, though. It's ludicrous to even entertain the idea. He is the greatest golfer that the majority of us have ever seen playing live.

    I can't even believe that you'd write that. Did you lose a bet on him over the weekend? Did he ride your girlfriend/wife/mother? What more does he need to do to cement his legacy?

    He is probably the greatest sportsman of the last twenty years, and you could argue that he is only rivalled by the likes of Muhammed Ali and Michael Jordan for the title of greatest of all-time.

    "But, there is a genuine debate about... his legacy as a player"

    Give me a break. Utter nonsense.

    Please tell me I've read your post incorrectly.


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    #495
    Stheno
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    Jack Kyle wrote: »
    I've always thought that Westwood is utterly dislikable.

    Delighted for Phil.

    The "nice guy act" is rumoured to be just that though...an act.

    Dunno if that's true, he brought his wifes onconologist to caddy for him at the Masters on the Wednesday tournament as a thank you.

    He's given up a lot as well for his family due to his wifes illness.


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    #496
    Jack Kyle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭Jack Kyle


    Woods' legacy is already cemented.

    He's arguably the greatest player in the history of the game.

    Whether he ends up being the greatest statistically it remains to be seen.

    To be honest, I believe that he'll win a few more. He's only 37 and look at guys like Mickelson who are in their forties. Even if he doesn't blow the field away a couple of times I'd be surprised if he doesn't reverse into one or two.

    As I said earlier, odd that both Nicklaus and Woods had won 14 Majors after 63 Majors as pros.


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    #497
    Jack Kyle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭Jack Kyle


    Stheno wrote: »
    Dunno if that's true, he brought his wifes onconologist to caddy for him at the Masters on the Wednesday tournament as a thank you.

    He's given up a lot as well for his family due to his wifes illness.

    Yeah but was that a genuine act of niceness or a contrived PR stunt?

    My understanding is that the reality is far from rosy but that because he's good to the journalists, they don't spill the beans on him.

    Still my favourite player but I have heard some nasty stuff about him.


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    #498
    Aidric
    Registered Users Posts: 13,591 ✭✭✭✭Aidric


    Jack Kyle wrote: »
    The "nice guy act" is rumoured to be just that though...an act.

    Fair play to him though...he spotted a gap in the market (i.e. the anti-Woods charmer) and has marketed himself thus.

    Complete bollox. If you have evidence to the contrary please present it.


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    #499
    G1032
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭G1032


    Jack Kyle wrote: »

    Still my favourite player but I have heard some nasty stuff about him.

    Like what?


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    #500
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Stheno wrote: »
    Dunno if that's true, he brought his wifes onconologist to caddy for him at the Masters on the Wednesday tournament as a thank you.

    He's given up a lot as well for his family due to his wifes illness.

    There does seem to be that rumour hanging over him and I've heard it from a few sources. I think fundamentally it doesn't matter he's doing he job and doing it bloody well.


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    Jack Kyle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭Jack Kyle


    Aidric wrote: »
    Complete bollox. If you have evidence to the contrary please present it.

    Why is it "complete bollox"?

    He's my favourite player so I've no agenda against him.

    But I've been told by pros and by people who work in the industry that there's more to Phil than the "America's Sweetheart" persona that he projects.


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    #502
    Jack Kyle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭Jack Kyle


    Put it this way...Tiger didn't play the game with the media so they were only delighted to destroy him.

    Phil on the other hand plays the game better than almost anyone else so the media are happy to turn a blind eye to his multiple vices.


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    #503
    G1032
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭G1032


    razorblunt wrote: »
    There does seem to be that rumour hanging over him and I've heard it from a few sources. I think fundamentally it doesn't matter he's doing he job and doing it bloody well.

    Nobody seems to be providing any links to add any weight to these rumours..........


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    #504
    cack_handed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭cack_handed


    Unsubstantiated rumours, snide insinuations....the internet at its finest

    Joe Posnanski dealt with this subject fairly well in an espn column before the US open, apart from a few misguided remarks about his tax affairs no one ever throws up a reasonable argument as to why Mickelson may not be all he's cracked up to be. Just rumours and snide insinuations..all a lot of hot air when it boils down to it


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    #505
    G1032
    Registered Users Posts: 7,047 ✭✭✭G1032


    Jack Kyle wrote: »
    Why is it "complete bollox"?

    He's my favourite player so I've no agenda against him.

    But I've been told by pros and by people who work in the industry that there's more to Phil than the "America's Sweetheart" persona that he projects.

    Well one of my best mates works for Callaway and has met Mickelson on several occasions and reckons he's as nice a bloke as you're ever likely to meet. All this rubbish about Phil bring a nasty guy is absolute horsesh!t


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    #506
    Jack Kyle
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭Jack Kyle


    He's my favourite player so I've zero interest in slagging him off.

    But I have heard on numerous occasions from numerous informed sources that he has more than one vice.


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    #507
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    I wish someone had a friend that could confirm this.


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    #508
    First Up
    Registered Users Posts: 14,822 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Jack Kyle wrote: »
    Put it this way...Tiger didn't play the game with the media so they were only delighted to destroy him.

    Phil on the other hand plays the game better than almost anyone else so the media are happy to turn a blind eye to his multiple vices.

    What an extraordinary statement. The media has been doing Tigers bidding for the guts of twenty years. His ratings pull has made him priceless - the TV market grows by about 40% when he plays and contends. This has allowed him get away with almost anything - the PGA has rolled over numerous times also. The media didn't destroy him. He reaped his own harvest.
    Phil is a corporate animal and plays the part but he is a nice guy and a phenomenal talent. He was always more popular in corporate circles than Tiger and apart from the hats on backwards hollering set, more populate among US fans too.


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    #509
    ForeRight
    Registered Users Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭ForeRight


    Jack Kyle wrote: »
    He's my favourite player so I've zero interest in slagging him off.

    But I have heard on numerous occasions from numerous informed sources that he has more than one vice.



    Up there with the biggest piles of poo I've read on this site


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    #510
    Benny Cake
    Registered Users Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Benny Cake


    ForeRight wrote: »
    Up there with the biggest piles of poo I've read on this site

    Agree 100%, and thats quite an achievement...


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    #511
    Muff Richardson
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    Jack Kyle wrote: »
    He's my favourite player so I've zero interest in slagging him off.

    But I have heard on numerous occasions from numerous informed sources that he has more than one vice.

    can you elaborate on your informed sources scoop as to what these particular vices are?

    if its hookers, booze or gambling or all three he's instantly shooting up in my estimation


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