Milk gone off before expiry date.

Del2005

Cienciano wrote: »

What's the story with milk delivery? In some small shops it's delivered early and left outside. Obviously not a great idea in this weather.

I got a litre of milk a couple of weeks ago and it was completely gone off, thick like yogurt. Brought it back and they swapped it no problem, the replacement was grand. One or 2 might end up a bit to long in the sun along the line of delivery

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Yes it's an issue and the shops should work with the supplier to have the delivery done when there's staff available to take it into the store, as it leads to wastage, but that's easier said than done.

The_Conductor wrote: »

Errr- we're Irish, we all know what fresh milk tastes like. Most Irish cows are fed predominantly fresh grass- unlike in the rest of Europe. Also- if you were having milk from a single cow/herd/farm- perhaps you might attribute slight changes in taste to different feeding regimens- but when you buy your carton of milk- god only knows how many cows from how many different herds have contributed to that one carton.

If we were in France, Switzerland, Germany, The Netherlands- or elsewhere, where cows are predominantly stall fed all year round- perhaps your hypothesis might have some basis- but in an Irish context- its implausible.

Irish cattle are feed indoors during the winter on silage/hay/grains not fresh grass. When the summer, eventually, comes they are released to feed on fresh grass which does change the taste. With the fodder crisis we had earlier this summer cattle are only now being released to the fresh grass so the change in milk taste is happening later, but the OP was affected by the hot weather.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Kristopherus wrote: »

I suggest its not the milk going off before expiry date. The issue here, I believe, is that cows have been moved to fresh new grass & this give a taste for the first few days. The milk itself is fine.

Absolute nonsense. Cows are moved to fresh grass regularly here. Where did you get that nonsense from?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Del2005 wrote: »

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Yes it's an issue and the shops should work with the supplier to have the delivery done when there's staff available to take it into the store, as it leads to wastage, but that's easier said than done.



Irish cattle are feed indoors during the winter on silage/hay/grains not fresh grass. When the summer, eventually, comes they are released to feed on fresh grass which does change the taste. With the fodder crisis we had earlier this summer cattle are only now being released to the fresh grass so the change in milk taste is happening later, but the OP was affected by the hot weather.

Not all dairy herds are sheded for winter. Supplementary silage feeding does take place but this talk of suddenly being on grass affecting the taste is a wander too far from this topic of sour milk.

Nonoperational

The_Conductor wrote: »

Errr- we're Irish, we all know what fresh milk tastes like. Most Irish cows are fed predominantly fresh grass- unlike in the rest of Europe. Also- if you were having milk from a single cow/herd/farm- perhaps you might attribute slight changes in taste to different feeding regimens- but when you buy your carton of milk- god only knows how many cows from how many different herds have contributed to that one carton.

If we were in France, Switzerland, Germany, The Netherlands- or elsewhere, where cows are predominantly stall fed all year round- perhaps your hypothesis might have some basis- but in an Irish context- its implausible.

I notice a very odd change of taste from some milk at different times of the year. Not gone off, but not pleasant. Only 2 people in out house (from 5) can taste the difference, but it's definitely there. I couldn't drink a glass of it, where as I'd drink a lot of milk usually. Usually passes after a few weeks.

Kristopherus

Aiyana Gentle Sandbox wrote: »

Absolute nonsense. Cows are moved to fresh grass regularly here. Where did you get that nonsense from?

Its obvious you're not from a farming background. Ask any of your farmer friends, if you have any, and they'll confirm what I said is true. You will get a taste from milk around this time of year, when cows diet is changed. And cows are not move to new grass regularly. Grass is mostly retained for fodder (silage) in the Winter half of the year when cows are indoors.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

Kristopherus wrote: »

Its obvious you're not from a farming background. Ask any of your farmer friends, if you have any, and they'll confirm what I said is true. You will get a taste from milk around this time of year, when cows diet is changed. And cows are not move to new grass regularly. Grass is mostly retained for fodder (silage) in the Winter half of the year when cows are indoors.

Oh how ironic! I come from a long line of Dairy farmers. I know exactly how our herds are fed, thank you. They most certainly are moved to fresh pasture regularly. Grass is not "retained" for fodder. We use our silage fields for fodder certainly but we graze our cows on the finest grass - all year round if we can. What part of the world are you from?

tatli_lokma

hedgehog2 wrote: »

A few poles I know tol me to stay clear of the polski shops for milf.

Fair enough, but what has that got to do with milK???

sungear

hedgehog2 wrote: »

By any chance was the milf from a polish or eastern european store,a lot of them shut down the fridges each night to save money but with the increased temos we r having this would spoil the milk very fast.
They yhen turn it back on in the morning and you are none the wiser.

I had thought it was an electrical regulation in commercial units to have fridges wired directly to an electrical connection, so they cannot be plugged out. I was told this was so cleaners or other staff would not discconnect a fridge unintentionally or temporarily and then forget to plug it back in, but I presume such a requirement might be to stop these cost savings measures.

dudara

OK posters - discussing grazing habits & livestock rotation is not in scope of this forum. Closing the thread as I think it has ran it's course.

dudara