Arcade and Retro General Chat in Karkariko Village Tavern: Live Ocarina Music

CiDeRmAn

Seems a little steep for a Saturn tbh.
And as for which one to own, own both!
They run very different software but, arguably, the Saturn has a larger game library, though the Dreamcast has soon stellar titles available, straight from the Arcade, so the likes of Virtua Tennis 2, F355, Daytona, Crazy Taxi, Shenmue and Blue Stinger!
So, really, 70 should get you both then region mod them as well.
Don't be in a rush, the perfect deal is probably around the corner.

Atavan-Halen

That's expensive for a Saturn as you'd be better off getting one cheaper along with a modchip and action replay cart. Like retr0 said the Saturn has a lot of great games that were never released over here so you'll be wanting to play those. I'd be looking to pay about €30 for a bog standard one.

The dreamcast is great all round and plays backup games without the need for a modchip or anything so it makes a lot of the great import games that are really expensive accessible.

CosmicSmash

Thats seems a tad steep for the Saturn. A Saturn would have to be chipped while a Dreamcast plays cdrs out of the box in case you we're wondering. It's the pefect console to be playing in these times of austerity:)

Hygro

Thanks guys, TBH half the price I quoted for the consoles was for postage anyway! Just seems to be none available here but a lot over in the UK.

Doge

Hygro wrote: »

Thanks guys, TBH half the price I quoted for the consoles was for postage anyway! Just seems to be none available here but a lot over in the UK.

Use parcel motel and you'll pay a fraction of the cost of shipping.

You can also use it to buy more items not available to Ireland.

Just browse eBay.co.uk

MrVestek

Yeah that's a tad steep for a Sega Saturn alright. If you're adept in any way with repairing electronics I'd suggest buying broken machines on the cheap from eBay or the likes and then trying to fix them.

Dead PSUs in Saturns for instance can be fixed easilly, as can most laser or disc related issues in disc based machines. I did this for both my Sega Saturn and Mega CD and ended up getting the Saturn for €10 including shipping from the UK and €25 or so for the Mega CD II.

Even if you're not great at repair at the circuit level (I'm not, although I will be buying some breadboards soon to practise) there are sound lads on here like Enternow... or Myrridiieirifjsdifjswhateverthefeckhescallednow that'd be willing to help you out.

Retr0gamer

If it's a PAL saturn it's probably a flase economy as well. A PAL saturn will run at 50 Hz so you'll need to get it modded to 60Hz. Since most of the Saturns collection are fast paced arcade games playing them on a PAL 50 Hz machine absolutely ruins the experience.

Either get a saturn modded for 60Hz, get it modded yourself or else get a US or Japanese machine.

When I said the saturn was more expensive I didn't mean the machine, I meant the fact that you really need to get it modded and have an acton replay cart to get the most out of the machine.

o1s1n

Saturns can be had very cheap. Sure the fully modded PAL one I bought a while ago there (mod chip and all) came to about €30 on ebay.

OwaynOTT

Yeah the Saturn I got was boxed with a few games for like €80 and it was a jp one. Gone now some ape got it.

Chris_Heilong

Both are great, others have mentioned the downside of the saturn, I will mention a downside to the Dreamcast is its laser unit, I have had 3 Dreamcasts in my life and all of them suffered laser failure. My Saturn still works fine.

Steve X2

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

Both are great, others have mentioned the downside of the saturn, I will mention a downside to the Dreamcast is its laser unit, I have had 3 Dreamcasts in my life and all of them suffered laser failure. My Saturn still works fine.

The lasers on the DC are ok for the Gdroms but if you are playing CDr's it will kill the laser a lot quicker.

Chris_Heilong

I was going to mention someone is selling a Dreamcast with a spare over in the marketplace but I see you already spotted it.

DinoRex

Wow... €6.99 for Ni No Kuni on the PS Store at the moment.

CiDeRmAn

DinoRex wrote: »

Wow... €6.99 for Ni No Kuni on the PS Store at the moment.

Don't mind me, I'm just here waiting for the inevitable Retr0 backlash at the mere mention of the game, it's like the new LoD in these parts.

Retr0gamer

Well I might not have liked it but 6.99 isn't a bad price and you might like it.

It's no Legend of Dragoon thank god.

johnny_ultimate

For what it's worth I think the game is flawed but significantly better than retr0 makes out it is.

At the very least, the art and the settings are a treat for Ghibli fans. Some magnificently colourful locations to visit throughout. Whatever about the mechanics and story, it's the kind of game that gives your console and HDTV set a proper work out - alas all too rare for JRPGs these days

DinoRex

I didn't find it too bad, drove me nuts with it's hand holding over tutorialising though!

Must go back to it though, got as far as a bit where you get on a boat if I recall correctly...

Although I want to finish Enchanted Arms first.

Myrddin

Seen this in cvpl

johnny_ultimate

Still more portable than a Virtual Boy.

CiDeRmAn

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Still more portable than a Virtual Boy.

Nice back light too.
And there's the occasional angry/flappy bird, in glassesless 3D no less!

Hygro

What's so good about parcel hotel?

the groutch

Hygro wrote: »

What's so good about parcel hotel?

you effectively get a UK address, so you only pay UK postage + €3.50.
it also means you can buy stuff from retailers who don't post outside the UK.

there's also the benefit of being able to collect it at a time that suits you, so you don't have to be at home waiting for postie/courier, and travel miles to the nearest depot if they miss you.

you can now even post stuff yourself via parcel motel for very decent prices.
eg. I can send a box up to 10kg to the UK for €16.50, An Post would charge €30-€50 for anything over 2kg.

Retr0gamer

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

For what it's worth I think the game is flawed but significantly better than retr0 makes out it is.

At the very least, the art and the settings are a treat for Ghibli fans. Some magnificently colourful locations to visit throughout. Whatever about the mechanics and story, it's the kind of game that gives your console and HDTV set a proper work out - alas all too rare for JRPGs these days

I think the game gets a free pass because it looks and sounds good. Underneath it it's a very poor RPG. It might be 6.99 but I'd say you are better off spending a bit extra and getting the Tales games that are on sale as well or even better, the Atelier games.

CosmicSmash

Zelda marathon on Twitch.
http://www.twitch.tv/zeldadungeon

Hygro

Have any of you ever considered turning one of the old desks you sat on in secondary school into an arcade machine?

Doge

Hygro wrote: »

Have any of you ever considered turning one of the old desks you sat on in secondary school into an arcade machine?

Ciderman may have, we didn't have desks that were that old! :P

murphyebass

waveform wrote: »

Ciderman may have, we didn't have desks that were that old! :P

That one looks sparkling new compared to the old hacked up graffiti'd ones i had the displeasure of sitting at.

Jack burton

Could be a good idea.

Maybe we do a community one, everyone take turns with a compass and a tip ex on the desk to make their mark.

"Sega is ****"
"Nintendo is bent"
"3do 4 Eva"

Myrddin

I remember those desks in primary school, little empty holes where the ink wells used to be Early 30's btw, so Cidey's crown is in no danger

Sparks43

Myrddin wrote: »

I remember those desks in primary school, little empty holes where the ink wells used to be Early 30's btw, so Cidey's crown is in no danger

I had ink in the ink wells believe it or not

eddhorse

I think you will struggle to fit in one of them now to be honest, great idea though

Hygro

eddhorse wrote: »

I think you will struggle to fit in one of them now to be honest, great idea though

Actually, I sat in one of them until I did my leaving cert, and I don't think I've grown much taller than I was then. There were some plus six footers that were in my class too, so if you got one that was used in secondary school you should be able to fit in ... unless the years have not been kind to the belly area

http://www.adverts.ie/other-furniture/2-x-old-school-desk/4609636

They look like an adult could easily fit in them.

the groutch

Question about Ebay and Parcel Motel (yes I know there is an Online Buying forum, but the REAL experts are over here).

How do people set up a PM address for ebay?
Do you have a seperate ebay account for stuff sent to PM, or add extra address and toggle as required, or add an address to Paypal?

The Last Bandit

the groutch wrote: »

Question about Ebay and Parcel Motel (yes I know there is an Online Buying forum, but the REAL experts are over here).

How do people set up a PM address for ebay?
Do you have a seperate ebay account for stuff sent to PM, or add extra address and toggle as required, or add an address to Paypal?

I've the PM address add as a second (default) address on Ebay and just switch between addresses as needed.

Don't think I added to Paypal, seem to remember some hassle with having an Irish bank account linked to UK address.

Hygro

the groutch wrote: »

Question about Ebay and Parcel Motel (yes I know there is an Online Buying forum, but the REAL experts are over here).

How do people set up a PM address for ebay?
Do you have a seperate ebay account for stuff sent to PM, or add extra address and toggle as required, or add an address to Paypal?

I'd also like to know, I just registered with them a few seconds ago and they gave me 2 addresses to use, one up in Northern Ireland, the other here in Dublin. I assume that Northern Ireland counts as the UK when it comes to ebay postage prices?

Doge

Hygro wrote: »

I'd also like to know, I just registered with them a few seconds ago and they gave me 2 addresses to use, one up in Northern Ireland, the other here in Dublin. I assume that Northern Ireland counts as the UK when it comes to ebay postage prices?

Yep, use the Antrim / N.I. Address for UK stuff.

Surprised that so many of you had the oldskool desks (pardon the pun!), just looked it up and it seems my primary school was probably built in 1983, so i guess it was more modern.

This is probably a rare occasion when Bandit country doesnt seem so retro compared to Dublin!

CiDeRmAn

In my first primary school it was quite modern, in Beaumont, but then I moved to the sticks and it was those desks with the typical anatomically incorrect drawing of penises and aeroplanes etched in with a compass and then passed over with a biro.
Oh, and the Jacks were outside for some... Dear glob the countryside is no place for a person of culture!

Richard

Hygro wrote: »

I'd also like to know, I just registered with them a few seconds ago and they gave me 2 addresses to use, one up in Northern Ireland, the other here in Dublin. I assume that Northern Ireland counts as the UK when it comes to ebay postage prices?

Royal Mail don't charge more but some couriers will for NI/Scottish Highlands. Read the detail on the listing. If it says UK then it includes NI. If it says GB then it may not - it's worth checking.

Hygro

These guys overvalue their games something fierce!!

o1s1n

Hygro wrote: »

These guys overvalue their games something fierce!!

I was able to guess the exact price of every game before pulling it out and looking. Theyre all based on higher end ebay bin prices.

There were quite a few games I'd have bought if they were a bit cheaper. Although a lot of the MD games were missing manuals.

Did you look at their 'rare' games along the back? 96 euro for ALTTP. Madness.

In the end I only bought one game (And a PS2 one at that) Contra Shattered Soldier.

On the plus side, their consoles were decently priced.

Hygro

o1s1n wrote: »

I was able to guess the exact price of every game before pulling it out and looking. Theyre all based on higher end ebay bin prices.

There were quite a few games I'd have bought if they were a bit cheaper. Although a lot of the MD games were missing manuals.

Did you look at their 'rare' games along the back? 96 euro for ALTTP. Madness.

In the end I only bought one game (And a PS2 one at that) Contra Shattered Soldier.

On the plus side, their consoles were decently priced.

I bought a Saturn pad for 12 euro, thought it was a good price, but missed out on a 10 euro dreamcast pad by going back too late.

Yeah 65 euro for Zombies on the MD, I thought I saw something for 75 euro at the back, but 96???

It's like topsy turvy world to me, I'm used to expensive consoles and cheap games!

Hygro

Retr0gamer wrote: »

**** yeah they are!

A saturn though you'd really want to get an action replay 4 in 1 and get it chipped. Most of the best games for it never made it outside of Japan and a lot of them are seriously expensive.

so the 4 in 1 basically makes it region free and the chips allows you to play ripped games?

They both seem pretty expensive!!

well on ebay anyway, this one seems cheap-ish http://www.play-asia.com/action-replay-4m-auto-plus-paOS-13-49-en-70-1b2.html

Retr0gamer

Yep. Get the playasia 4 in 1 if it's the cheapest or check consolegoods.co.uk, he usually has them in.

If you want a saturn chip then consolegoods and racketboy sell them.

CiDeRmAn

Company of Champions, you son of a beetch!
I just remembered I have to leave that covenant asap!
And I was wondering why I was so lousy at it.
Thanks lads last night who pointed out my folly!

Steve X2

Anyone know if they made any 8bit/16bit games based on the Commando movie? You know the one, the awesome cheesy Arnold movie

Looking on eBay and elsewhere and can't find a copy as the other Commando game keeps coming up.

Doge

Steve SI wrote: »

Anyone know if they made any 8bit/16bit games based on the Commando movie? You know the one, the awesome cheesy Arnold movie

Looking on eBay and elsewhere and can't find a copy as the other Commando game keeps coming up.

Steve X2

waveform wrote: »

Looking more for this type of thing, but Commando movie game.

Retr0gamer

None that I know of.

I really want the Sailor Moon arcade game after looking at a video of it.

CiDeRmAn

Apparently not
http://preparationsforbirth.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/commando-the-movie-the-game-a-design-document-part-1/

Steve X2

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Apparently not
http://preparationsforbirth.wordpress.com/2010/12/22/commando-the-movie-the-game-a-design-document-part-1/

I see