Arcade and Retro General Chat in Karkariko Village Tavern: Live Ocarina Music

Steve X2

A new article over on Games Radar, more or less what we have always been saying about digital content. As in, it's only yours until they take it away from you.

Marvel vs. Capcom's disappearance spotlights the downside of a digital future
http://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-vs-capcoms-disappearance-spotlights-downside-digital-future/

I really like digital content(movies and games)as you can have it more or less right away. But there really is a massive downside to it as well.

Doge

I totally missed Atari's war on mobile games, which happened last year:

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/01/03/atari-allegedly-claiming-copyright-infringement-on-hundreds-of/

Damn, was looking forward to playing Vector Tanks, on my first ever Apple product which is coming soon!
Ah well, looks like i'll have to wait til the next jailbreak.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sza2ke2TEnM

o1s1n

Los Lobos wrote: »

Happened by pure chance to get talkin to a guy tonight who worked for atari in tipp in the eighties, he noticed my hoodie with an atari patch and came over to chat, says he may have some stuff still back in his home house in tipp, i hope this isnt another one of those false leads to retro goodness...

It'll either be absolutely nothing or the next hoard of Atari prototypes and developer hardware worth a fortune.

Fingers crossed!:)

Los Lobos

o1s1n wrote: »

It'll either be absolutely nothing or the next hoard of Atari prototypes and developer hardware worth a fortune.

Fingers crossed!:)

He mentioned having some marquees but hadn't seen them in years, they could have been thrown out would be class to get some of them, knowing where they came from.
But he did seem genuine that he would have a look regardless

CiDeRmAn

Steve SI wrote: »

A new article over on Games Radar, more or less what we have always been saying about digital content. As in, it's only yours until they take it away from you.

Marvel vs. Capcom's disappearance spotlights the downside of a digital future
http://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-vs-capcoms-disappearance-spotlights-downside-digital-future/

I really like digital content(movies and games)as you can have it more or less right away. But there really is a massive downside to it as well.

Thanks for posting that, I've been worried about that since the digital content started coming to our consoles.
It's a reality that your purchases would someday be not only obsolete along with the host console, but also they could be simply removed from the store for redownloading should it be required for whatever reason.
We saw a brutal version this on the Kindle of all things, when they ironically deleted 1984 off of peoples ereaders due to rights issues, once their kindles connected to the Amazon system.

Atavan-Halen

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Is "decent price" less than the rrp? Otherwise don't bother, seriously

Yeah it's less than the rrp. One of my friends won one, but already bought one beforehand so wants to sell.

Myrddin

Atavan-Halen wrote: »

Yeah it's less than the rrp. One of my friends won one, but already bought one beforehand so wants to sell.

A good deal is a good deal, & you could be playing Dead Rising 3 on Xmas morning

DinoRex

Unless the price is cheaper than a PS4 then I can't see any reason to take it.

Atavan-Halen

Ah yes, dead rising. The perfect game for getting into that festive spirit! :P

It's a little bit more than a PS4, but I'm going to end up buying both anyway.

I told him I'd let him know after Christmas, see if I get any Christmas $.

Steve X2

In hindsight I'd only pick up a PS4. The Xbox One just isn't there at the moment.
And the PS4 looks nicer under my telly

Retr0gamer

So I finished Shin Megami Tensei 4 last night and while it's one of the best games I've played in a long time there's one thing that really annoyed me in the end. The game has got a very interesting setting and I was dying to find out more about it and also the reasons why it existed. In the Law ending I got none of this was explained. I thought maybe the Chaos and Neutral endings would shed some light so I looked them up. Nope not there either.

Turns out everything is answered.... In the DLC packs. Now the game can be enjoyed just fine without them but leaving such a massive and important part of the story, such as the whole origin of the games setting in the DLC is just flat out wrong considering it also explains what happens in one of the games more confusing chapters.

The Last Bandit

Awesome CDi cab conversion build over on J+, pity it wasn't on a candy

http://www.jammaplus.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57329&title=cdi-arcade-cab

o1s1n

The Last Bandit wrote: »

Awesome CDi cab conversion build over on J+, pity it wasn't on a candy

http://www.jammaplus.co.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=57329&title=cdi-arcade-cab

I've tried to write something in reply to that, but I literally have no words :eek:

Andrew76

Steve SI wrote: »

A new article over on Games Radar, more or less what we have always been saying about digital content. As in, it's only yours until they take it away from you.

Marvel vs. Capcom's disappearance spotlights the downside of a digital future
http://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-vs-capcoms-disappearance-spotlights-downside-digital-future/

I really like digital content(movies and games)as you can have it more or less right away. But there really is a massive downside to it as well.

I never normally read the small print when downloading games but presumably it says the games will work as long as the service is running? A bit crap but ultimately not much we can do about once there's no longer a physical product to buy (if there was one in the first place).

johnny_ultimate

Ultimate MvC 3 is only a fiver on Xbox Live at the moment actually, so if you do want it it's a good price before it disappears into the digital ether.

The disappearance is just a digital version of a problem that affects physical goods too - books, films etc... are always going out of print due to rights issues and agreements. Digital retirement is just regrettably less friendly towards the second hand market.

o1s1n

Yeah, at least with retired books you can still hunt a copy down somewhere. It's at least archived for future generations.

Digital content worries me in that regard. Thank fook for pirates backing everything up.

Steve X2

o1s1n wrote: »

Yeah, at least with retired books you can still hunt a copy down somewhere. It's at least archived for future generations.

Digital content worries me in that regard. Thank fook for pirates backing everything up.

All joking aside, it is and will be in the future our best archival source.
I'm an archivist, not a pirate

eddhorse

Megadrive Book :

http://readonlymemory.vg/sega-mega-drive-genesis-collected-works

Danonino.

Friend of mine a while back was arguing with me that owning certain games was now pointless due to them being available digitally. Beyond Good and Evil, Ikaruga, Castlevania and various Sonic games had been released on XBL/PSN and he was pretty much calling my Gamecube and Playstation copies a waste of space. My argument was that the copies I have on disc although not HD remakes or updated like the digital versions were here to stay. In 20 years, as long as I have a Gamecube, a TV and the disc I could turn on Ikaruga and give it a blast, if my Xbox hard drive has a brain fart 20 years from now what are the chances I will be able to redownload the games? I said very very slim, he said nonsense they will always be available "you've paid for it". pffft

When I tried to redownload all the XBL games the last time I suffered a RROD there was a sneaky amount of 'content not available' going on. Don't like to think what it'll be like in a few years.

Jack burton

eddhorse wrote: »

Megadrive Book :

http://readonlymemory.vg/sega-mega-drive-genesis-collected-works

I'd say there's about 5 or 6 of those ordered already form this forum :pac:

eddhorse

Jack burton wrote: »

I'd say there's about 5 or 6 of those ordered already form this forum :pac:

Just making sure it didn't slip through the net. Very difficult to get through this forums net though. They smell Retro goodness from miles away....

CiDeRmAn

Danonino. wrote: »

Friend of mine a while back was arguing with me that owning certain games was now pointless due to them being available digitally. Beyond Good and Evil, Ikaruga, Castlevania and various Sonic games had been released on XBL/PSN and he was pretty much calling my Gamecube and Playstation copies a waste of space. My argument was that the copies I have on disc although not HD remakes or updated like the digital versions were here to stay. In 20 years, as long as I have a Gamecube, a TV and the disc I could turn on Ikaruga and give it a blast, if my Xbox hard drive has a brain fart 20 years from now what are the chances I will be able to redownload the games? I said very very slim, he said nonsense they will always be available "you've paid for it". pffft

When I tried to redownload all the XBL games the last time I suffered a RROD there was a sneaky amount of 'content not available' going on. Don't like to think what it'll be like in a few years.

That "friend"?
Not a friend.
Get rid.
Get new friends who understand the precious things.

DinoRex

Almost Nintendo Direct time: http://www.nintendo.co.uk/Misc-/Nintendo-Direct/Latest-Nintendo-Direct/Nintendo-Direct-698557.html

DinoRex

A Zelda Dynasty Warriors game... yikes.

Retr0gamer

Dynasty Warriors zelda can naff off.

Some decent but not amazing stuff shown. Layton vs Wright finally getting an english release is nice. Kirby looks great and Mario Kart 8 looks gorgeous. I'll probably pick up NES Remix tonight. Looks like fun and good to see the WiiU shop get some nice small downloadable titles, it was pretty barren.

See Sonic in the Yoshi game just felt wrong. He was going through pipes and everything. It just confirms what we all knew, Sonic is a whore.

DinoRex

The next DLC is going to have Link in Lost Worlds.

Retr0gamer

DinoRex wrote: »

The next DLC is going to have Link in Lost Worlds.

Making it the first time Link has been in a **** game since the third CDi game

DinoRex

I want that Luigi Diorama... stupid Stars Catalogue site is taking a hammering though.

richymcdermott

well its official sonic is now dead to me

Myrddin

richymcdermott wrote: »

well its official sonic is now dead to me

Welcome to 1996

MrVestek

richymcdermott wrote: »

well its official sonic is now dead to me

You finally played Sonic '06?

richymcdermott

Achilles wrote: »

You finally played Sonic '06?

ive a love/hate relatioship with 06

but seeing sonic go through tunnels made me sick

o1s1n

richymcdermott wrote: »

but seeing sonic go through tunnels made me sick

Prepare to spew.



:pac:

Myrddin

richymcdermott wrote: »

ive a love/hate relatioship with 06

After seeing the "James & Mike Play..." video about Sonic 06, it beggars belief how anyone would consider that 'game' as anything other than a disaster. It looks truly, truly, dreadful

MrVestek

Myrddin wrote: »

After seeing the "James & Mike Play..." video about Sonic 06, it beggars belief how anyone would consider that 'game' as anything other than a disaster. It looks truly, truly, dreadful

As a lifelong Sonic fan - it is awful. The amount of times I went THROUGH the tunnel in the first level was mind boggling.

I gave up after the boss fight with silver. You just keep getting trapped by his "It's No Use" power.

**** that game.

Myrddin

Don't get me wrong, I'm an advocate of 'each to their own', but to say you enjoy Sonic 06 is really pushing the limits of credibility. The mechanics & design look completely broken

DinoRex

As someone who enjoyed the Sonic Adventure games and sort of had time for Sonic Heroes up to a point, Sonic 06 is atrocious and is simply a broken horrible non-game.

MrVestek

Case in point: http://youtu.be/zct-Ufi5Lsg?t=5m40s

MrVestek

AHERM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdeLpndCux8

DinoRex

Cashed in my stars!

richymcdermott

o1s1n wrote: »

Prepare to spew.



:pac:

that aint no tunnel

Myrddin

richymcdermott wrote: »

that aint no tunnel

What?

o1s1n

richymcdermott wrote: »

that aint no tunnel

Sonic loves tunnels and tubes

MrVestek

o1s1n wrote: »

Sonic loves tunnels and tubes

IT'S NO USE!!!

OwaynOTT

do need i need the expansion pak to play majora mask?

Atavan-Halen

OwaynOTT wrote: »

do need i need the expansion pak to play majora mask?

Yep, you do.

MrVestek

New Sonic 1 dlc...

MrVestek

Found these when looking for some 8 / 16bit sounds to use in my bartop.

Using some of these for logon / logoff sounds:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54P-lw_mnnM

Retr0gamer

NES Remix is a lot of fun. It's like a warioware game except with just old nes games messed around with and little mini challenges. I love it anyway!

CiDeRmAn

How much is it?
I'm tempted to get Sonic Lost Woods now, just to see how wrong it is to play through Mario levels with him.