Hill 16 not open for Meath v Tyrone/Kildare?

RoyalCelt

I've read on another forum that Hill 16 won't be open for the round 4 qualifier in Coke Park. Big deal you might say but many supporters will stay at home if they can't avail of the slightly less priced tickets.

As I read on this other forum they pointed out that it was open for all Dublins qualifier games in 2010 despite many have very small attendances.

Not only does it look bad on TV having an empty hill but it also adds to the atmosphere having the "hardcore" together behind the goal with their singing/chanting.

Meath/Kildare/Tyrone would all bring a few heads to the hill so please GAA don't make a big mistake and leave it closed, just so you don't have to pay an extra 10 stewards.

RoyalCelt

Last time Meath played Tyrone there was a decent crowd on the Hill and a great atmosphere.

Les Ferdinand

It's closed and rightly so.
Hill 16 is Dublin only.

Prodigious

Les Ferdinand wrote: »

It's closed and rightly so.
Hill 16 is Dublin only.

Don't be ridiculous.

Carroller

RoyalCelt wrote: »

but it also adds to the atmosphere having the "hardcore" together behind the goal with their singing/chanting.

Just because you go to the hill doesn't make you "hardcore"! I would have thought that the "hardcore" supporters would go anywhere in the ground.

Besides the hill is a ****e view

Citycap

Les Ferdinand wrote: »

It's closed and rightly so.
Hill 16 is Dublin only.

If that was the case it would be empty for most All Ireland finals

Les Ferdinand

Citycap wrote: »

If that was the case it would be empty for most All Ireland finals

Predictable and unoriginal joke.

whatnext

Les Ferdinand wrote: »

Predictable and unoriginal joke.

But totally appropriate in thsi instance

Flukey

There are some good viewing spots on it. Well up it, just as it starts to curve round towards the Cusack Stand gives a great view diagonally across the pitch with the posts not impeding the view. There are certainly worse places you can be in the stands.

The Hill brings a great atmosphere, especially when the Dubs are playing, but also on a big match day when there is a good crowd in it, no matter what counties are playing. In full voice and colour, that sea of blue with a few small pockets of all colours is great to see as a spectacle, no matter who you support. On those other days, the crowd is more mixed and it also gives great colour and atmosphere. It is special in Croke Parks attractions and hopefully we never lose it. In good weather like we've been having of late, it is great place for getting a red face, like his ---> :mad: If you don't want to look like him, bring plenty of sun screen.

Hammer Archer

Ridiculous if true. Another example of the GAA trying to milk fans for all they're worth. As said, they simply can't use the excuse of leaving it closed because of an expected low attendance because only around 20000 were at the Dublin - Tipperary game in 2010 and it was open.
If, as expected, Armagh beat Galway, I'd expect them to bring a decent crowd. If Kildare manage to beat Tyrone, I'd say the Meath game alone would bring around 30000.

garv123

Why are people only realising this now? the hill is always empty up until the semi final unless Dublin are playing usually and all the tickets go to the dubs.

Pretty stupid. Typical of the GAA though. Why should Dublin be special?

Fr Tod Umptious

garv123 wrote: »

Why are people only realising this now? the hill is always empty up until the semi final unless Dublin are playing usually and all the tickets go to the dubs.

Pretty stupid. Typical of the GAA though. Why should Dublin be special?

Really ?

I don't think I have ever seen the hill unoccupied

Hammer Archer

Hmmm reading elsewhere it may be just a case of the tickets not being released yet. Hopefully they will be.

whatnext

this is a money decision if true.
The reality is the vast majority of those going to the game will go Hill 16 or no Hill 16.
By keeping it closed they will squeeze an extra tenner a head out of us.
Based on 5000 going on the hill thats an extra 50000 in the kitty

klairondavis

I haven't been to Hill 16 in nearly twenty years myself but supporters should have the option of a cheaper terrace ticket if they so wish.

DoctaDee

Can't see myself why it wouldn't open - other than the attendant cost of extra stewarding. Funny enough was gonna toddle along with the young lad for the d/header - I've a Parnell Pass for a good few years now so generally in 305 of the Cusack. The young fella is getting to an age now that he wants to see the Hill - dunno whether me old war wounds would hold up to 4 hours standing tho :rolleyes:

Flukey

DoctaDee wrote:

I've a Parnell Pass for a good few years now so generally in 305 of the Cusack. The young fella is getting to an age now that he wants to see the Hill - dunno whether me old war wounds would hold up to 4 hours standing tho

I am sure you can at least test the old war wounds at this stage. Plenty of places to rest those weary bones, many more than in the old days, so you should be able to keep standing. All these "When I was a lad..." stories you tell the young fella won't be impressive unless you can bring him to see what the heat of battle is like for himself. You'll move up in his levels of respect then. He'll be really proud of his old man. Go on, go for it.:)

iDave

Poor form if true, Meath do make the Hill their own when the Dubs arent there. Remember outsinging Tyrone, Cork, Mayo, Kerry, Louth and Kildare fans there the last few years.

DoctaDee

Flukey wrote: »

I am sure you can at least test the old war wounds at this stage. Plenty of places to rest those weary bones, many more than in the old days, so you should be able to keep standing. All these "When I was a lad..." stories you tell the young fella won't be impressive unless you can bring him to see what the heat of battle is like for himself. You'll move up in his levels of respect then. He'll be really proud of his old man. Go on, go for it.:)

LMAO .. yeah yeah .. I was only telling himself and his cousin about the "old days" last time out ... have been bringing them for a good few years now, and let them off the rein to go to the toilet, burgers on their own etc ... sez I when we get to the Hill there'll be no more going to the toilet, even on a warm day like this wear a pair of jeans so you wont notice the fella behind p1ssing on ya .. the jaws just dropped .. well I hope it's still like that and hasn't become too civilised :rolleyes:

Flukey

DoctaDee wrote:

LMAO .. yeah yeah .. I was only telling himself and his cousin about the "old days" last time out ... have been bringing them for a good few years now, and let them off the rein to go to the toilet, burgers on their own etc ... sez I when we get to the Hill there'll be no more going to the toilet, even on a warm day like this wear a pair of jeans so you wont notice the fella behind p1ssing on ya .. the jaws just dropped .. well I hope it's still like that and hasn't become too civilised

You told them to wear jeans? Jaysus, what sort of softies are you raising? Not only should they be in shorts, but they should be sitting down in front of the fellas when they start pissing. Tis great for dying the hair, and burning away tatoos. What with the dishwater they call beer they are sellig down in the bar, piss is far more toxic these days. Initiation requires getting pissed on. Could even work wonders for the old war wounds, so you might try it yourself. The combination of the current hot weather and Hill 16 piss all over you, beats a fake tan any day.

GAAman

Surely it is the obvious reason of money? A hill ticket is what at least €10 cheaper than the other stand tickets, don't open the hill and gain €10 per head

Hibbeler

No doubt the reason that will be trotted out is that it will cost them too much to open it with stewards and concession staff etc as a result of an expected low turn out. If they expect a low turn out (I don't think it will be that low) why don't they try and fill a provincial ground?

Don't forget that this will be a double header so really there should be no reason why the hill would be closed. I would expect as somone said earlier that the tickets have just not been made available yet

Cork v Armagh/Galway and Meath v Tyrone/Kildare.

The second match alone should bring a decent crowd imo

Frankie Lee

Tyrone and Meath should be in Breffni Park or maybe Clones, if Kildare pull of the upset then Tullamore would do the job nicely.
Nothing worse than an empty Croke Park.
Armagh and Cork are probably the reason they are going for a double header as **** all from either county would travel to any other neutral venue like Portlaoise.

The good old days when 60000 would turn up for a Leinster semi final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNMa7JFSds

Saab Ed

Citycap wrote: »

If that was the case it would be empty for most All Ireland finals

Do you want to count them. Go on, you're from the country. You'll have enough fingers :-)


Runs and hides

overshoot

Les Ferdinand wrote: »

It's closed and rightly so.
Hill 16 is Dublin only.

Les Ferdinand wrote: »

Predictable and unoriginal joke.

very true

RoyalCelt

whatnext wrote: »

this is a money decision if true.
The reality is the vast majority of those going to the game will go Hill 16 or no Hill 16.
By keeping it closed they will squeeze an extra tenner a head out of us.
Based on 5000 going on the hill thats an extra 50000 in the kitty

What about the thousands of people that won't pay an extra tenner? I know for a fact that if they offered Meath fans Canal end tickets for the price of the hill a few more thousand would have went. From my club alone there were about 10 lads from the senior team that were staying at home because the only cheap option was standing amongst 15,000 dubs.

RoyalCelt

GAAman wrote: »

Surely it is the obvious reason of money? A hill ticket is what at least €10 cheaper than the other stand tickets, don't open the hill and gain €10 per head

and lose a few thousand attending while your at it.

RoyalCelt

Frankie Lee wrote: »

Tyrone and Meath should be in Breffni Park or maybe Clones, if Kildare pull of the upset then Tullamore would do the job nicely.
Nothing worse than an empty Croke Park.
Armagh and Cork are probably the reason they are going for a double header as **** all from either county would travel to any other neutral venue like Portlaoise.

The good old days when 60000 would turn up for a Leinster semi final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFNMa7JFSds

in fairness both Meath and Kildare were 2 of the best teams in the country back then and both challenging for leinster and all ireland honours. Plus it was straight knock out. Add the recession to that and you can see why we get at least half that to meath v kildare leinster semi's now.

RoyalCelt

Another poster said croke park emailed him back saying just the lower stands. real shame that. we're in a facking recession. thousands of people will not go because of the price they'll have to pay.

Hammer Archer

Looks like that's the case now. Really beggars belief. In 2010, the Hill was opened for two Dublin games between Tipp and Armagh that drew 22000 and 24000 respectively so why on earth is it all of a sudden not cost effective to open it for games that'll draw more of a crowd?

delta_bravo

Isn't the Davin the same price as the hill?

The Maverick

delta_bravo wrote: »

Isn't the Davin the same price as the hill?

No, Davin is the same price as the Cusack and Hogan stands.

Frankie Lee

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Looks like that's the case now. Really beggars belief. In 2010, the Hill was opened for two Dublin games between Tipp and Armagh that drew 22000 and 24000 respectively so why on earth is it all of a sudden not cost effective to open it for games that'll draw more of a crowd?

They didn't want to annoy Dublin supporters, they have no problem with pissing off everyone else however.

rpurfield

bad form not opening it i havent been on the hill in a few years now as i bring my dad into games, but hes started watching them on tele now so itd free me up to go on it.i always have a preference for standing and with the exception of cork all the teams playing next week would bring decent crowds and at least fill it if they didnt open the nally terrace now

Dubliner28

Disgraceful if true. Grab all association

Taffy Kat

Doesn't surprise me. They have done it often enough to Kilkenny in the past.

They usually put little flags on the barriers in the colours of the teams playing that day... its so beautiful :rolleyes:.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

Definitely not open.

Taffy Kat

THFC wrote: »

Definitely not open.

Hill and Nally closed so no possibility for the fans to obtain cheap tickets. Its things like this that stopped me going to GAA matches. The GAA doesn't give a damn about the fans, only bleeds them dry.

Al_Coholic

gonna be 3 games on now...surely they have to open the Hill?

Dubliner28

Taffy Kat wrote: »

Hill and Nally closed so no possibility for the fans to obtain cheap tickets. Its things like this that stopped me going to GAA matches. The GAA doesn't give a damn about the fans, only bleeds them dry.

Me too. The only reason im attending this year is I have a season ticket(got as a present).

Disgraceful that.

Nailz

Al_Coholic wrote: »

gonna be 3 games on now...surely they have to open the Hill?

Absolutely, Cavan will be bringing a massive support to that, all of the lower stand sections and the Hill 16 will be needed I'd say, and should be open too. I'm not really one for sitting down at sporting events so I'd be delighted to be there for our qualifier against London.

munchkin_utd

Taffy Kat wrote: »

Hill and Nally closed so no possibility for the fans to obtain cheap tickets. Its things like this that stopped me going to GAA matches. The GAA doesn't give a damn about the fans, only bleeds them dry.

jesus christ
3 senior championship knockout games and still its not value for money?

Al_Coholic

Nailz wrote: »

Absolutely, Cavan will be bringing a massive support to that, all of the lower stand sections and the Hill 16 will be needed I'd say, and should be open too. I'm not really one for sitting down at sporting events so I'd be delighted to be there for our qualifier against London.

people are saying 25euro for 3 games is cheap...it is in a way but when you have 2 and 3 people travelling as well as costs of getting there it adds up to a very expensive day out.

Colm R

They assumed wrongfully that Armagh would beat Galway. Common sense would put the fixtures as follows:

London V Cavan and Donegal V Laois in Croker - still not going to be full, but doff the hat to London and give them a game in Croker.

Meath V Tyrone in Cavan which would be close to a full house.

And have a triple header on Sunday instead in Thurles with:

2: Cork V Kilkenny (First so everyone can get back to Bruce)
4: Cork V Galway
6: Galway V Clare

That way Cork and Galway get both their games one after the other and a fine feast of Football/Hurling in Thurles.

Al_Coholic

munchkin_utd wrote: »

jesus christ
3 senior championship knockout games and still its not value for money?

why have they got the cheaper Hill tickets available for Dublin games but other counties dont get that choice? 6 different teams playing next weekend in Croke Park and none have this choice.

DoctaDee

Taffy Kat wrote: »

Hill and Nally closed so no possibility for the fans to obtain cheap tickets. Its things like this that stopped me going to GAA matches. The GAA doesn't give a damn about the fans, only bleeds them dry.

Dubliner28 wrote: »

Me too. The only reason im attending this year is I have a season ticket(got as a present).

Disgraceful that.

Seriously lads ? ... Personally I think the Hill should be open but have a look at things at face value... it's 25 notes for the stands v 15 notes for the Hill ? ... yer hardly been creamed for an extra tenner ...coupled with the fact there's now 3 games (6 hours) of entertainment for the hard core fan, you'd nearly be glad of the seat

Do you think the fans travelling from Cavan/Tyrone/Cork or Galway for the commitment they're making travelling up by bus car train or whatever that an extra €10 is gonna ruin the day ?

Have a look at the pricing structure for Aviva and tell me who is been ridden .. think they're looking 75 quid for Liverpool/Celtic in a couple of weeks .

InchicoreDude

Colm R wrote: »

They assumed wrongfully that Armagh would beat Galway. Common sense would put the fixtures as follows:

London V Cavan and Donegal V Laois in Croker - still not going to be full, but doff the hat to London and give them a game in Croker.

Meath V Tyrone in Cavan which would be close to a full house.

And have a triple header on Sunday instead in Thurles with:

2: Cork V Kilkenny (First so everyone can get back to Bruce)
4: Cork V Galway
6: Galway V Clare

That way Cork and Galway get both their games one after the other and a fine feast of Football/Hurling in Thurles.

Would be logical thinking alright. I know some of the Galway footballers would love to play in Thurles cos it is rare a footballer gets a chance to play there.

munchkin_utd

DoctaDee wrote: »

<snip>
Have a look at the pricing structure for Aviva and tell me who is been ridden .. think they're looking 75 quid for Liverpool/Celtic in a couple of weeks .

PLUS the FAI and Rugby initially forced you to buy expensive tickets for multiple internationals, including midweek ones, as an undiscounted package.

so you werent just looking at a number of expensive days out, you needed to have 100s of euros up front for the tickets per person PLUS the requisite time off work for all the folks travelling, and if outside the pale numerous round trips to Dublin, some for games ending late in the evening so not even able to get home by public transport.
(and they wondered why their tickets werent popular and didnt sell out?)

And the gaa asks for 25 euro for 3 games back to back and its a scandal and rip off simply because there arent also 15euro tickets on a terrace so you can stand for 6+hours!

DoctaDee

The other thing worth noting for all the penny pinchers is that with the Adult ticket for the stands come a concession of €5 euro for the kids as part of the family ticket, (there's no concession for kids on The Hill) So for those that may have kids of their own or a niece/nephew or next door neighbours kid, what a great opportunity for them to experience the atmosphere of Croker ... mind you and speaking personally the run around Tesco for goodies runs into 100's

Nailz

munchkin_utd wrote: »

And the gaa asks for 25 euro for 3 games back to back and its a scandal and rip off simply because there arent also 15euro tickets on a terrace so you can stand for 6+hours!

Is anyone actually calling the €25 price for seating tickets a rip off though? It's actually pretty good for 3 important inter-county matches, my main problem with it is the fact that there is absolutely no option for the terraces at all. I wouldn't necessarily care if I had to pay a wee bit extra just for the standing tickets than usual, an option would just be nice.

munchkin_utd

Nailz wrote: »

Is anyone actually calling the €25 price for seating tickets a rip off though? <snip>

yes
one poster said about the lack of cheaper tickets on the hill:

"Disgraceful if true. Grab all association"