Bye Bye vRS

cena

vectra wrote: »

One of the 4 wheels types :pac:

Very clever

Johnny Utah

mickdw wrote: »

That is the point im getting at. If the cost to the insurer is not coming near the range where the insurers like to write off, can you reject the car? It is being said here that a car owner can reject a repair full stop and force insurer to basically buy the car. I hope it's true but I find it hard to believe.

It will depend on the circumstances. If the damage is only to a bumper, for example, then it would be unreasonable to claim for a new car. The cost of a new bumper will, in most cases, be a small percentage of the value of the car.

However, if the overall extent of the damage is a substantial percentage of the value of the car, then you may be able to claim for a replacement car. So, for example, if you have a 10 year old car, worth about €10k on the open market prior to an accident, and then it sustains about €6k of damage; then in these circumstances you would probably be within your rights to have the insurance co buy the damaged car off you for €10k.

stooge

Am I the only one dismayed at the presumption that the driver of the hyundai was on drugs? Granted, he is not driving a BMW and dressed in a suit, but its very stereotypical to say he was a scumbag on drugs without having the evidence to prove it

Have an Occy in the same colour as the OP's VRS and can feel the pain, but until you know for sure I wouldnt be making any sweeping statements on the other driver purely based on his appearance and car.

good luck with the new car!

GavMan

stooge wrote: »

Am I the only one dismayed at the presmuption that the driver of the hyundai was on drugs? Granted, he is not driving a BMW and dressed in a suit, but its very stereotypical to say he was a scumbag on drugs without having the evidence to prove it

Have an Occy in the same colour as the OP's VRS and can feel the pain, but until you know for sure I wouldnt be making any sweeping statements on the other driver purely based on his appearance and car.

good luck with the new car!

Think the OP (who was obviously there) said it. He might know.

dr.fuzzenstein

I'm sure the other driver was on his way to an important business meeting.
And no sober person would attempt to change the wheel on that Accent, firstly it was wedged into the side of the wheel well.

stooge

stooge wrote: »

Am I the only one dismayed at the presumption that the driver of the hyundai was on drugs? Granted, he is not driving a BMW and dressed in a suit, but its very stereotypical to say he was a scumbag on drugs without having the evidence to prove it

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck its almost definitely a duck.....;)

In this situation its a perfectly valid assumption, nothing at all to be dismayed about.

Plug

Vectra considering you do small mileage the fuel issue may not bother you in an RS. They go well for a front wheel drive car, one of the quickest. As for the new ST, thats a fantastic car, some people may not like the look but they are fuel efficient for a car with 250bhp, plenty of toys in there too. Electronic steering so very little torque steer.
Or have you made the choice already?

YbFocus

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

I'm sure the other driver was on his way to an important business meeting.
And no sober person would attempt to change the wheel on that Accent, firstly it was wedged into the side of the wheel well.

Maybe by pure chance he had a wishbone and a track rod with him

vectra

Deposit paid on new car :P

Neilw

vectra wrote: »

Deposit paid on new car :P

What colour did you decide on?

Harcrid

More importantly what car is it....

vectra

Neilw wrote: »

What colour did you decide on?

Silver

Harcrid wrote: »

More importantly what car is it....

Details in my avatar

Wossack

cracked it!

an old ford restoration jobbie

'top secret' is an anagram for 'pet escort'

vectra

Wossack wrote: »

cracked it!

an old ford restoration jobbie

'top secret' is an anagram for 'pet escort'

"TOP Secret" is also use on jap cars. :P

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Wossack wrote: »

cracked it!

an old ford restoration jobbie

'top secret' is an anagram for 'pet escort'

cop tester

Wossack

the signs are there!

Antonella Hollow Bumblebee wrote: »

cop tester

yea, I'd say the escort with the nissan engine swap certainly would be :pac:

vectra

SHE LIVES :)

Just in case anyone is looking to buy one



https://cars.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/skoda-octavia-rs-2-0tdi-170hp-4dr/9747665

ba_barabus

I wonder does it have a clean history if you run a check?

vectra

ba_barabus wrote: »

I wonder does it have a clean history if you run a check?

Would be interesting alright.

ba_barabus

vectra wrote: »

Would be interesting alright.

It would be interesting to know if the garage even knows it's been crashed. I'd have thought they wouldn't sell a car like that being a main dealer but I could be wrong. Has it done many miles since you had it.

vectra

ba_barabus wrote: »

It would be interesting to know if the garage even knows it's been crashed. I'd have thought they wouldn't sell a car like that being a main dealer but I could be wrong. Has it done many miles since you had it.

It had just over 6k kms on it when I got rid of it.
Just about 2 years ago now.

ba_barabus

Is Motorcheck still around to run a check?

Atlantic Dawn

The results of a car history check will tell us if they are worth the paper they are printed on. Surely the car history check and 110 point car check Skoda dealer does would have spotted the repair or is it only marketing speak?

TheBigGreen

I wonder what she is going for?

blade1

Does that garage give a free check when you buy a car of them?
Interesting if they do?

Ireland doesn't have cat a, cat b crash damage etc. As per page 1 of this topic the car was repairable.... It was repaired. Car history checks on Irish cars are essentially only finance oweing checks.

MuppetCheck

TheBigGreen wrote: »

I wonder what she is going for?

Scrap I'd say:pac:

mickdw

That car was very little damaged and anyone who thinks it is somehow wrong to repair it or go on a witch hunt on the people now selling it are crazy. Fair enough, having bought new and kept it pristine, it was reasonable to not want a repaired car but anyone buying that now really should have little concern.

ba_barabus

mickdw wrote: »

That car was very little damaged and anyone who thinks it is somehow wrong to repair it or go on a witch hunt on the people now selling it are crazy. Fair enough, having bought new and kept it pristine, it was reasonable to not want a repaired car but anyone buying that now really should have little concern.

No witch hunt here. I simply wondered was there a crash recorded on its history and I had assumed a main dealer wouldn't put a previously crashed car on the forecourt if they knew.

2 reasonable things and a great chance to see if history checks are worth paying for.

blade1

mickdw wrote: »

That car was very little damaged and anyone who thinks it is somehow wrong to repair it or go on a witch hunt on the people now selling it are crazy. Fair enough, having bought new and kept it pristine, it was reasonable to not want a repaired car but anyone buying that now really should have little concern.

Witch Hunt?
There was over 8 grand of damage.
What's wrong with wanting an honest history with the car?
No mention of repaired in the ad!

ba_barabus

blade1 wrote: »

No mention of repaired in the ad!

Once you ask and they tell you I've little issue with not having it in the ad.

dastardly00

ba_barabus wrote: »

Once you ask and they tell you I've little issue with not having it in the ad.

Someone should visit the dealer and ask! I wonder would they definitely tell you! :eek:

mickdw

blade1 wrote: »

Witch Hunt?
There was over 8 grand of damage.
What's wrong with wanting an honest history with the car?
No mention of repaired in the ad!

Yes over 8k worth of damage when replacing even minutely scratched items etc which vectra would have been fully entitled to no doubt.
In reality and for the second hand market, that car took very little to repair.
Anyone who thinks main dealers don't have car on their forecourt that had this kind of damage are dreaming.

blade1

dastardly00 wrote: »

Someone should visit the dealer and ask! I wonder would they definitely tell you! :eek:

If I'm reading this right they give you a free history check.
I wonder would they email it out.

ba_barabus

mickdw wrote: »

Anyone who thinks main dealers don't have car on their forecourt that had this kind of damage are dreaming.

I find it hard to believe a main dealer would have a relatively new car on their forecourt with an accident recorded on its history. The reason for this is because a VW dealer and a friend who works in sales with a main dealer both told me under franchise rules they can't retail a car with crash history under any used car garauntee schemes.

Hardly dreaming, hence why I'd like to know if it has a clean history.

ba_barabus

ba_barabus wrote: »

I find it hard to believe a main dealer would have a relatively new car on their forecourt with an accident recorded on its history. The reason for this is because a VW dealer and a friend who works in sales with a main dealer both told me under franchise rules they can't retail a car with crash history under any used car garauntee schemes.

Hardly dreaming, hence why I'd like to know if it has a clean history.

An accident recorded in its history?
What are they smoking?
The best you could hope for is a detailed invoice of work done stuffed in the service manual.

ba_barabus

Augeo wrote: »

An accident recorded in its history?
What are they smoking?
The best you could hope for is a detailed invoice of work done stuffed in the service manual.

I'm not sure what your talking about.

It's clear I mean a crash recorded in the vehicles history of a cartell report is done.

I'd like to see if there is one recorded against the car, my actual suspicion is that there isn't.

ba_barabus

ba_barabus wrote: »

I'm not sure what your talking about.

It's clear I mean a crash recorded in the vehicles history of a cartell report is done.

I'd like to see if there is one recorded against the car, my actual suspicion is that there isn't.

What prompts the accident to be in the cartell database?
It's optional.

Also, Farrell claims to detail write offs, not crash history.

ba_barabus

Augeo wrote: »

What prompts the accident to be in the cartell database?
It's optional.

Don't know, hence I'd like to know.

If it's not in the cartell report then that lowers the importance of them except when it comes to finance owing as you've already pointed out.

The garage may not be aware of the previous damage without a report. I'd be surprised if they didn't pick up the respray work during a check but that wouldn't be at all unusual in any car at 3 years old. I've no real issue with the garage at all hence I don't understand the whole "witch hunt" comments by Mick.

I'd just like to know in a pretty clear cut case like this if the history reports would show up the cars history.

_Kaiser_

All this speculation.. why not just ring the dealer and see what they say?

For myself though I think I'd pass if I was in that market.. especially if it wasn't mentioned upfront

166man

Just to add to this, I'm nearly certain when I worked for a main dealer we had a check run on every car before it was taken in as a trade in. If it was a stock car for retail and it had crash damage we would not take it. A bumper painted here and there wasn't an issue but the whole side of that car was damaged.

I'd certainly be interested to know.

ba_barabus

Augeo wrote: »

Also, Farrell claims to detail write offs, not crash history.

Seens you're right about that, motorcheck and cartell only detail write offs.

I've seen crash history show up before on reports, so you're saying that's up to someone to actually submit and isn't done in Ireland as a matter of course?

166man

166man wrote: »

Just to add to this, I'm nearly certain when I worked for a main dealer we had a check run on every car before it was taken in as a trade in. If it was a stock car for retail and it had crash damage we would not take it. A bumper painted here and there wasn't an issue but the whole side of that car was damaged.

I'd certainly be interested to know.

On an Irish car the check can only be used to ascertain was it a write off, using the check to investigate crash history is seriously flawed.

Bumper painted etc won't appear on the history check.

It seems you weren't involved in that aspect of the business.

ba_barabus

ba_barabus wrote: »

...
I've seen crash history show up before on reports, so you're saying that's up to someone to actually submit and isn't done in Ireland as a matter of course?

Indeed.

Buy a crashed car, get it fixed (properly in many cases), sell it.

Ask was a car ever crashed in a reputable dealer and the answer is rarely a straight no, there's usually a speel about a clear Farrell report accompanying the car or something similar.

Cartell etc have good reason for claiming they detail write offs, they can't stand over any other claim, many think a clear cartell means never crashed.

mb1725

According to vehicle transaction enquiry, the car was bought by a dealer in April, so they may not know about the accident. Wonder did the Hyundai survive? :rolleyes:

vectra

I have no doubt in my mind that dealer knows nothing about the damage.
As for bumpers being painted??
Look closer
The sill were damaged
Front wing
Rear panel>>>>>> Where exactly would you join a new one? Weld it half way down the roof? I would only accept full panel replacement.

That car was worse than it looks ,, Trust me.

Also. The guy that bought it was obviously one of the dodgy type as I got a speeding fine belonging to him many weeks after, and it was still registered to me a couple of months after I got rid of it.

Vic_08

DoneDeal ad now removed, how odd.

vectra

Vic_08 wrote: »

DoneDeal ad now removed, how odd.

oops.!


http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/skoda/octavia/used-2012-skoda-octavia-rs-2-0tdi-donegal-fpa-171314351555106490

deepimpact

It's up on their website.

www.dmgmotors.ie/used-cars/Skoda/Octavia/RS-2.0TDI/171314351555106490/

vectra

USB ??
Metallic Paint??
2 owners??