Liveline Thread 20/7/2013 to 12/10/2013

IvyTheTerrible

"Plenty of other venues". Where I grew up, school was the only possible place.

Oh and Mrs, I think your issue is more with your children exploiting you as a childminder.

JonathanAnon

I'd love to give Joe a slap... He's exceptionally rude today, even for him.

JM Skipton

This caller hasn't thought this through has she?

snubbleste

Joe: Where have you been living?
Caller: dublin

HeidiHeidi

JM Skipton wrote: »

This caller hasn't thought this through has she?

This :D:D

SEPT 23 1989

The Hall of Fame has gone to his head

JM Skipton

ThisRegard wrote: »

You can't be serious.

I agree with Joe.

Jen is a FF plant to raise the issue of Enda not partaking.

Actually I think you have got it spot on!

BPKS

As long as you listen to Liveline, Drivetime & Morning Ireland, read the Irish Times and don't bin your junk mail you will have all the information you need so Joe?

snubbleste

Is supposed to give equal time on the referendum issue? y'know balance

HeidiHeidi

Wooyyyyy?

Dan Jaman

So, that's how he spends his money - buying auld rayjos down the market.

BPKS

Is this Mattie McGrath?

SEPT 23 1989

Shout at him Joe:rolleyes:

HeidiHeidi

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Shout at over him Joe:rolleyes:

FYP

Trollhättan

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I'd love to give Joe a slap... He's exceptionally rude today, even for him.

jeez....What side did Joe get out of this morning/afternoon??

Call me Al

Aul' Joe likes to talk over people doesn't he!

Although in fairness some of them deserve it

snubbleste

Go on don't let Joe interrupt you!

snubbleste

He was a Councillor...for which party?
Joe does not chase this up because...

baldbear

A.county councillor. Ha the cheek of him. They should be got rid of too.

ThisRegard

I think Joe had grand plans to become a senator.

Sligo Quay

Fair play to that guy, speaks a lot of sense.

Dan Jaman

So, only politicians are in touch with the real world?
FFS, get a grip, you tosser (caller).

JonathanAnon

Catherine ZaponAy has a GazAbo in StockhOllum

Harry Angstrom

This man speaks sense.

Sligo Quay

ThisRegard wrote: »

I think Joe had grand plans to become a senator.

Maybe he has a vote from his days at TC.

Harry Angstrom

Yeah, all the cranks Joe.

baldbear

A FG councillor id say. Enda Kenny's puppet on the radio.

snubbleste

baldbear wrote: »

A FG councillor id say. Enda Kenny's puppet on the radio.

He does not have a FG accent

Sligo Quay

baldbear wrote: »

A FG councillor id say. Enda Kenny's puppet on the radio.

Who cares he speaks sense, why does everything have to be looked at in a partisan way, I never voted FG in my life, but I'm voting yes to get rid of Seanad gravy train.

mada999

Heard some guy on there now, he say's he's voting yes to abolish the Seanad because there is too many politicians and tha the vote is simple. If you want to abolish the Seanad vote yes otherwise vote no. What ignorance, it's not that simple:

IF A YES VOTE WINS - Key POINTS

1 . Laws will be made if passed by the Dáil and the president. No amendments or changes can be offered up by anyone else. *** Do you want the current Government to have this power?

2. By voting to abolish the Séanad, you also could take away the President's power to refer Money Bills(laws relating to public finances, ie. matters relating to TAXATION) to the supreme court for a decision on whether or not they are consitutional. **More Power to Government**

3. The constitution currently provides the option for the president to refer bills to the people. If a yes vote is gained, THIS OPTION WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE CONSTITUITON.
** More power for Government**

4. Currently, Ireland may adopt and implement certain EU laws and decisions and certain amendments to EU treaties ONLY if this is approved in advance by BOTH the Dáil and the Seanad.
IF A YES VOTE IS GAINED - ONLY THE APPROVAL OF THE DÁIL WILL BE REQUIRED FOR PASSING EU LAWS AND DECISIONS. **More power to Government and EU** ?

5. Currently Oireachtas has the power to pass laws for the purpose of securing
public safety and the preservation of the State in time of war or armed
rebellion. These laws may not be challenged in the Courts on the basis
that they are unconstitutional.

IF A YES VOTE IS PASSED - The Dáil alone will have the power to pass national emergency laws
and to decide a national emergency exists **YES more power the Government.

6. Currently, Judges of the Supreme Court and the High Court may be removed from office
for stated misbehaviour or incapacity only if a simple majority of the members
present and voting in each of the Dáil and Seanad pass resolutions to that effect.

IF A YES VOTE IS PASSED - The Dáil alone decides the above.

Please vote no on this.

For the people will say "the Seanad does not have any power". This is TOTALLY WRONG, the fact is that members of the Seanad have tabled 529 amendments to 14 Bills that have been passed over the past two years. Also, see points 4,5 and 6 below. IT DOES HAVE POWER and that is why the Government wants to do away with it.

For the people who say, "It's a waste of Money", The Seanad costs less than €10m a year to run, not the €20m the Government suggests. Also, if they really wanted to go on costs then they should ring fence the money. Pathetic argument from the Government. €20m is less than €0.02% of the budget and it will not even kick in for another while anyway.

Please do not vote to abolish the Seanad as it is not only the Seanad you are doing away with, you are giving one chamber (The Dáil) a lot of power. This Government has pledged to reform only if we vote to abolish the Seanad, that's not fair is it ?

Remember past election promises such as "not another red cent" and "it is moraly unjust to tax a person's house" - Enda Kenny.