Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

Alfred Borden

Paulegend wrote: »

who from teh arsenal team would get into the lievrpool team and who from liverpool would get into the arsenal team

fact is liverpool have a better first team

Are you a parody account?lol

emergingstar

Knex. wrote: »

He's in the Liverpool thread atm saying how the likes of Steve Bruce and McLeish are greats of the game.

Stay safe in the knowledge that the majority of Liverpool fans know we are short a few signings in getting to and past Arsenal's level, while hoping Arsenal's squad stays standstill.

Both teams are still miles of the pace and both new to strengthen before the window closes

Paulegend

just saying if someone really thinks that liverpool are not better then prove it

fact is liverpool wouldnt take anyone from arsenal right now but arsenal would easily love a couple in the opposite direction

Alfred Borden

Paulegend wrote: »

just saying if someone really thinks that liverpool are not better then prove it

fact is liverpool wouldnt take anyone from arsenal right now but arsenal would easily love a couple in the opposite direction

Kos, Gibbs, Sagna,Wilshere,Cazorla,Arteta, Podolski and even Walcott would all walk into yeer team.

Quazzie

Paulegend wrote: »

just saying if someone really thinks that liverpool are not better then prove it

fact is liverpool wouldnt take anyone from arsenal right now but arsenal would easily love a couple in the opposite direction

Ye wouldn't take Cazorla, Kos or Wilshire?
:rolleyes:

Knex*

emergingstar wrote: »

Both teams are still miles of the pace and both new to strengthen before the window closes

True. But Arsenal are a lot closer, squad wise, to title challenge potential than Liverpool.

Our strengthening is just so we can actually put a meaningful challenge in for fourth.

emergingstar

Paulegend wrote: »

just saying if someone really thinks that liverpool are not better then prove it

fact is liverpool wouldnt take anyone from arsenal right now but arsenal would easily love a couple in the opposite direction

Only answer we will no who is better after 38 games simple as that

FearDark

Of FFS the Pool brigade are back. Seriously this is frustrating.

Knex*

Raf32 wrote: »

Kos, Gibbs, Sagna,Wilshere,Cazorla,Arteta, Podolski and even Walcott would all walk into yeer team.

Sagna I'm not so sure. Podolski would play about as much as he does for ye, not straight up starter.

Your point still remains however, only knitpicking

Marty McFly

Raf32 wrote: »

Kos, Gibbs, Sagna,Wilshere,Cazorla,Arteta, Podolski and even Walcott would all walk into yeer team.

Quazzie wrote: »

Ye wouldn't take Cazorla, Kos or Wilshire?
:rolleyes:

Don't even waste your time, ignore him and he will go away instead of having to read the constant flow of diarrhea he spouts.

Strongbow10

Paulegend wrote: »

just saying if someone really thinks that liverpool are not better then prove it

fact is liverpool wouldnt take anyone from arsenal right now but arsenal would easily love a couple in the opposite direction

as a fellow Liverpool fan I sincerely ask you to give it a rest

FearDark

emergingstar

Knex. wrote: »

True. But Arsenal are a lot closer, squad wise, to title challenge potential than Liverpool.

Our strengthening is just so we can actually put a meaningful challenge in for fourth.

Us been stronger than ye or ye been stronger than us

Is actually noting either set of fans should be bragging about

Alfred Borden

Knex. wrote: »

Sagna I'm not so sure. Podolski would play about as much as he does for ye, not straight up starter.

Your point still remains however, only knitpicking

Yup agreed on Podolski actually but definitely put Sagna in over Johnson, only an opinion though im sure its a minority one.

Knex*

emergingstar wrote: »

Us been stronger than ye or ye been stronger than us

Is actually noting either set of fans should be bragging about

I actually don't think it quite works both ways.

Liverpool have been out of the CL for a few years now and Arsenal are a mainstay.

From a Liverpool perspective, Arsenal are a benchmark we need to first achieve and then look to progress from.

Arsenal on the otherhand should be looking upwards rather than over yer shoulder. It should be a minimum that the Arsenal squad is clearly better than Liverpool's when that recent history of being in the CL is there.

Once again it comes back to the mentality of the board I feel.

Marty McFly

Knex. wrote: »

Arsenal on the otherhand should be looking upwards rather than over yer shoulder. It should be a minimum that the Arsenal squad is clearly better than Liverpool's when that recent history of being in the CL is there.

That's the problem in recent years we almost seem to be happy keeping the status quo of qualifying for Champions League football and setting that as the benchmark whilst spending very little moneyit just cannot be sustained, clubs beneath will catch and overtake you while the clubs above will move further and further away.

Unless you show ambition and we all hoped and thought this was to be our summer were we finally flexed our financial muscle and showed the world we had ambition and sadly and in a incredibly frustrating manner that has failed to come to fruition so far.

emergingstar

Knex. wrote: »

I actually don't think it quite works both ways.

Liverpool have been out of the CL for a few years now and Arsenal are a mainstay.

From a Liverpool perspective, Arsenal are a benchmark we need to first achieve and then look to progress from.

Arsenal on the otherhand should be looking upwards rather than over yer shoulder. It should be a minimum that the Arsenal squad is clearly better than Liverpool's when that recent history of being in the CL is there.

Once again it comes back to the mentality of the board I feel.

Very good post

You should post here more often. Could have good debate with u

FearDark

Why have we gone back to Pool v Arsenal again? Can we not fight amongst ourselves like yesterday.

tayto lover

emergingstar wrote: »

As bad as everything is

We're one game in ONE

Lets not get carried away with the struggling for 4th just yet

If you can't see the signs that we are in decline unless we have urgent surgery then there is something wrong with you. The body language of some of the players in the 2nd half showed it, they are fed up of it too.

I have been almost a half century following my beloved team and I have never seen such anger or heard booing on the first day of a new season before.

There are very few who genuinely do not see the decline. You can nearly smell it.

This is the most serious problem now and we have left ourselves very little time to fix it. The Board and Wenger need a change of mindset urgently. There is no time to lose.
Will it happen? I seriously doubt it to be honest. Our problems have not just began this year.

emergingstar

tayto lover wrote: »

If you can't see the signs that we are in decline unless we have urgent surgery then there is something wrong with you. The body language of some of the players in the 2nd half showed it, they are fed up of it too.

I have been almost a half century following my beloved team and I have never seen such anger or heard booing on the first day of a new season before.

There are very few who genuinely do not see the decline. You can nearly smell it.

This is the most serious problem now and we have left ourselves very little time to fix it. The Board and Wenger need a change of mindset urgently. There is no time to lose.
Will it happen? I seriously doubt it to be honest. Our problems have not just began this year.

We have problems I agree

I just maintain its the first day there is no gaurntee we will be struggling for 4th

Soups123

emergingstar wrote: »

We have problems I agree

I just maintain its the first day there is no gaurntee we will be struggling for 4th

In fairness with the current squad we will struggle for top 6 for certain.

emergingstar

If Chelsea win by 3 were out of the relegation zone

Positives from the weekend

emergingstar

Soups123 wrote: »

In fairness with the current squad we will struggle for top 6 for certain.

Yep that's quiet possible too

Marty McFly

Soups123 wrote: »

In fairness with the current squad we will struggle for top 6 for certain.

Ah come one now essentially this is the same team that got us fourth last year all the players who were shipped out bar Gervinho didn't feature at all.

We do needs signings badly and injuries could ruin us with the lack of depth in the current squad without signings but were not that bad either.

Soups123

I might be a gullible old fooll but I think we will make 1/2 huge signings and 2 more squad, I just can't see it any other way

FearDark

The "we're only one game in" arguement doesn't wash. We had a whole summer to improve and we got worse, as usual.

Looper007

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Easy to see how you got your name anyway.

Don't be a eejit now.

Marty McFly

Soups123 wrote: »

I might be a gullible old fooll but I think we will make 1/2 huge signings and 2 more squad, I just can't see it any other way

I really really hope your right. But as each day closes I loose a little bit more faith. If we do my outlook would improve drastically for the current season providing of coarse we qualify for the champions league.

SantryRed

FearDark wrote: »

The "we're only one game in" arguement doesn't wash. We had a whole summer to improve and we got worse, as usual.

Well considering yous were one of the most in form teams last year from February on

Soups123

Marty McFly wrote: »

Ah come one now essentially this is the same team that got us fourth last year all the players who were shipped out bar Gervinho didn't feature at all.

We do needs signings badly and injuries could ruin us with the lack of depth in the current squad without signings but were not that bad either.

We have a first 11 capable of top 4 but a squad capable of top 6. There is no way the squad will perform in all cups, CL and league as bare as it is. It's delusional to think they can and/or we would need an injury free season with very little suspensions

Marty McFly

Soups123 wrote: »

We have a first 11 capable of top 4 but a squad capable of top 6. There is no way the squad will perform in all cups, CL and league as bare as it is. It's delusional to think they can and/or we would need an injury free season with very little suspensions

True but I think we will add players to the squad aswell but what kind of player or quality we add remains to be seen.

Soups123

Marty McFly wrote: »

True but I think we will add players to the squad aswell but what kind of player or quality we add remains to be seen.

I think CL qualification will decide whether we get quality or squad level

emergingstar

FearDark wrote: »

The "we're only one game in" arguement doesn't wash. We had a whole summer to improve and we got worse, as usual.

I'm not putting up an argument I'm just saying there is no guarantee we will be struggling for 4th

Marty McFly

Soups123 wrote: »

I think CL qualification will decide whether we get quality or squad level

I do agree there, I think it will have a big bearing on it. Which is why I'm very nervous about this game with Fernerbache with no Arteta, possibly Gibbs and Sagna aswell. We could be a complete disaster at the back.

Bounty Hunter

Marty McFly wrote: »

I do agree there, I think it will have a big bearing on it. Which is why I'm very nervous about this game with Fernerbache with no Arteta, possibly Gibbs and Sagna aswell. We could be a complete disaster at the back.

Has there been no update on Gibbs? surely he only needed stitches

Mr.Micro

Marty McFly wrote: »

I do agree there, I think it will have a big bearing on it. Which is why I'm very nervous about this game with Fernerbache with no Arteta, possibly Gibbs and Sagna aswell. We could be a complete disaster at the back.

Would love an away win but would be satisfied with a draw, nothing less.

An away goal is an absolute necessity.

speedboatchase

We should still have enough to get past Fenerbache over both legs. I think Villa are easily going to finish in top half this season and Fener won't pose the same threat. Spurs and even Fulham (Bent, Berbatov against a makeshift defence) look ominous though unless we strengthen.

Marty McFly

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Has there been no update on Gibbs? surely he only needed stitches

Nothing yet apart from yesterday he could be a doubt I'm still hopeful though he will be ok, we badly need him.

tayto lover

Qualifying for the Cl is well and good but if we were serious about giving it a shot i.e. actually trying to win it then we would have invested.
Whether we qualify for the group stages or the knock-out stages is really immaterial to me. We are not strong enough to compete with the big boys.

The further we go the more money we earn but if we don't spend it then what does it matter.

We don't seem to be able to attract or bid for the players that some teams not in the Cl can get. No ambition from the top.

bad2dabone

emergingstar wrote: »

Anyway time to dust ourselfs down and get behind the team on Wednesday.

Correct. We all love this club and the players do need support now more than ever. I'm not angry at any of them. Although Chesney is A comedy goalie and made me mad as hell, he's arsenal through and through. Let's hope for a performance vs fener and some signings before the nld.

Drexel

bad2dabone wrote: »

Correct. We all love this club and the players do need support now more than ever. I'm not angry at any of them. Although Chesney is A comedy goalie and made me mad as hell, he's arsenal through and through. Let's hope for a performance vs fener and some signings before the nld.

We need a center back before the Fulham game!! Is there any concrete news on how Sanga is?

FearDark

CL qualification is only money to Mr. Wenger.

No hope of doing well in it and god help us if we get a Bayern, Real or Barca in our group.

bad2dabone

jonny666 wrote: »

We need a center back before the Fulham game!! Is there any concrete news on how Sanga is?

Having one cb is incredible but we could all see this coming. Sagna has whiplash I hear. Awful looking fall.

AdamD

FearDark wrote: »

CL qualification is only money to Mr. Wenger.

No hope of doing well in it and god help us if we get a Bayern, Real or Barca in our group.

Pretty sure that's impossible as we're a 1st seed?

FearDark

AdamD wrote: »

Pretty sure that's impossible as we're a 1st seed?

I was assuming too much there, I meant at some point in the competition.

CastingCouch

Can't believe ye didn't sign Higuain :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aib06DjSB2U

danlen

FearDark wrote: »

CL qualification is only money to Mr. Wenger.

Come off it. That's just a ridiculous statement. Are you really saying that AW doesn't care about this club?

FearDark wrote: »

No hope of doing well in it and god help us if we get a Bayern, Real or Barca in our group.

Well if you're referring to getting any of those three in the KO stages then that statement could probably apply to nearly every other team. I wouldn't any English team to take care of any of those 3 in fairness.

gosplan

I think people are being too hard on the players.

I think mentally, we are nowhere near where we should be. That's what happens when you start the season with fear and ambiguity rather than a clear sense of purpose.

danlen

CastingCouch wrote: »

Can't believe ye didn't sign Higuain :P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aib06DjSB2U

OH BABY!!!!!!!!!!