Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

Looper007 · 26-08-2013 5:41pm

FearDark wrote: »

Giroud isn't a player that will win you premier leagues.

Thats the bar we should set.

I agree but he's a player worth having as a back up. He can do the job agaisn't the Stoke's and Swansea's of this world. Just think we need somebody who's a few notches above Giroud, someone who can change a game.

FearDark · 26-08-2013 5:43pm

Kirby wrote: »

Neither is Welbeck. But he has his place in the United starting 11 these days. No club has a team of superstars.

I fully agree with you. For me Giroud is a Wellbeck if you get me. We still need that world class striker though. If we don't buy that world class striker we should look at other options for when Giroud is unavailable because at the moment we are just too thin.

Looper007 · 26-08-2013 5:43pm

Kirby wrote: »

Neither is Welbeck. But he has his place in the United starting 11 these days. No club has a team of superstars.

Well they have Van Persie knocking goals in Giroud is are Welbeck we need our Van Persie. We just want a World class striker I don't know why so many are agaisn't it on here.

FearDark · 26-08-2013 5:46pm

Looper007 wrote: »

Well they have Van Persie knocking goals in Giroud is are Welbeck we need our Van Persie. We just want a World class striker I don't know why so many are agaisn't it on here.

Because its inevitable we won't get one, Wenger is setting us up for that news.

We will not get a CF.

gosplan · 26-08-2013 5:50pm

Looper007 wrote: »

Well they have Van Persie knocking goals in Giroud is are Welbeck we need our Van Persie. We just want a World class striker I don't know why so many are agaisn't it on here.

Wow, we're agreeing all over the place these days.

If you're playing a lone striker, then to consistently challenge for something as long and arduous as the league, you need a really good striker there. Drogba, RVP, whoever.

Giroud's current problem for me is he doesn't bully or outpace defenders so he doesn't really make his own chances. He's limited to whatever Walcott and Cazorla provide him with. In the really important games, this might be one decent chance that HAS to be taken. I just don't think he's at that level yet.

keano_afc · 26-08-2013 5:51pm

So we're not getting a CF and we're not getting a CB. And people still think we'll sign more than 2 players? I've said for a bit now that I'll be amazed if we get more than 2 players and I don't see any reason to change that.

Roaster · 26-08-2013 5:53pm

greendom wrote: »

What do you want him to say. "The players at my disposal are just not good enough"

Eh no, but he could say "I think we need one more CF to battle on all fronts and to ensure we have squad depth..."

FearDark · 26-08-2013 5:53pm

keano_afc wrote: »

So we're not getting a CF and we're not getting a CB. And people still think we'll sign more than 2 players? I've said for a bit now that I'll be amazed if we get more than 2 players and I don't see any reason to change that.

Flamini and Cabaye. No CF.

That'll be our lot. People can quote me on this after 2nd Sept.

AdamD · 26-08-2013 6:13pm

I think we'll get Flamini + either Cabaye or Di Maria

TimeToShine · 26-08-2013 6:55pm

Kirby wrote: »

Neither is Welbeck. But he has his place in the United starting 11 these days. No club has a team of superstars.

Pretty poor analogy, Giroud doesn't have a world class striker alongside them banging them in and relieving some of the pressure so he can do his job and improve.

tayto lover · 26-08-2013 7:02pm

United in for Di Maria now SSN.

Paddycrumlinman · 26-08-2013 7:04pm

tayto lover wrote: »

United in for Di Maria now SSN.

That's that done so.

Looper007 · 26-08-2013 7:15pm

AdamD wrote: »

I think we'll get Flamini + either Cabaye or Di Maria

Still be disappointing for me. Not one of them will send a shiver up our rivals spines. Good players but not world beaters. Sadly they are 4th place signings.

FearDark · 26-08-2013 7:18pm

I'm not positive about signing anyone of worth before the window shuts.
Absolutely nothing is happening and Wenger is to blame.
Disgusted with him.

EuropeanSon · 26-08-2013 7:19pm

Looper007 wrote: »

Still be disappointing for me. Not one of them will send a shiver up our rivals spines. Good players but not world beaters. Sadly they are 4th place signings.

Di Maria? He is far better than that.

cathalio11 · 26-08-2013 7:29pm

Looper007 wrote: »

Still be disappointing for me. Not one of them will send a shiver up our rivals spines. Good players but not world beaters. Sadly they are 4th place signings.

Flamini, perhaps.

Cabaye was a star player in the Newcastle team that finished 5th two seasons ago. He is a very talented player. I wouldn't call him just a 4th place player but I'd be very unhappy if he is all we get from all the hype at the start of the Summer.

Di Maria is world class.

greendom · 26-08-2013 7:35pm

Todor Nedelev 20 year old Bulgarian winger. We are apparently on the verge of signing him after a 3 million euro offer from Roma was turned down. Spurs were also interested apparently.

greendom · 26-08-2013 7:39pm

cathalio11 wrote: »

Flamini, perhaps.

Cabaye was a star player in the Newcastle team that finished 5th two seasons ago. He is a very talented player. I wouldn't call him just a 4th place player but I'd be very unhappy if he is all we get from all the hype at the start of the Summer.

Di Maria is world class.

Cabaye is not a defensive midfielder but I imagine he'd be able to perform the Arteta deep midfielder role very effectively. I imagine our set piece delivery would improve significantly as well.

cathalio11 · 26-08-2013 7:41pm

greendom wrote: »

Cabaye is not a defensive midfielder but I imagine he'd be able to perform the Arteta deep midfielder role very effectively. I imagine our set piece delivery would improve significantly as well.

And we wouldn't have Santi or Walcott on direct free-kicks anymore, I would hope. Don't remember any of them scoring one for us. Could be wrong though.

Cabaye, like Maloney and Snodgrass, is guaranteed to score 1-3 free-kicks a season.

Though, maybe I'm talking out of my ***.

tayto lover · 26-08-2013 7:56pm

Paddycrumlinman wrote: »

That's that done so.

Yes i'd fear that.
Why go for a team satisfied with 4th place when you can go to the Champions who show ambition. Isn't that why our best players left too?

dvemail · 26-08-2013 8:22pm

greendom wrote: »

Todor Nedelev 20 year old Bulgarian winger. We are apparently on the verge of signing him after a 3 million euro offer from Roma was turned down. Spurs were also interested apparently.

Goes without saying really.

cathalio11 · 26-08-2013 8:24pm

dvemail wrote: »

Goes without saying really.

Yeah, Spurs were in contact with me last week.

bad2dabone · 26-08-2013 8:32pm

cathalio11 wrote: »

Yeah, Spurs were in contact with me last week.

hope you turned them down mate

bad2dabone · 26-08-2013 8:33pm

Chelsea kicking RVP.......

i am liking this.

Continue.

Hyzepher · 26-08-2013 8:42pm

looking at RM tonight, AW should break the bank for Di Maria & Benzema

keano_afc · 26-08-2013 8:44pm

What a dire game. Tearing my hair out, we really only need 3 or 4 really good platers to challenge, if this is the best the top teams can offer. We're being seriously sold short.

tayto lover · 26-08-2013 8:48pm

keano_afc wrote: »

What a dire game. Tearing my hair out, we really only need 3 or 4 really good platers to challenge, if this is the best the top teams can offer. We're being seriously sold short.

Been saying that for years.

darego · 26-08-2013 8:55pm

Hyzepher wrote: »

looking at RM tonight, AW should break the bank for Di Maria & Benzema

di maria and benzema both starting?

cathalio11 · 26-08-2013 9:05pm

darego wrote: »

di maria and benzema both starting?

Yes. Probably why Benzema is happy with staying. Bale arriving will reduce Di Maria's playing time. Don't know by how much though.

speedboatchase · 26-08-2013 9:25pm

Wenger is crazy if he thinks he can afford to ignore our GK, CB and FW needs. Wouldn't surprise me though.

Marty McFly · 26-08-2013 9:30pm

I still maintain we don't need a goalkeeper.

A CB preferably a top class one but would settle for a squad filler if signings in other areas were outstanding.

A DM one to at least roatate and battle with Arteta not a squad filler.

A CF without a doubt needed badly do rate Giroud but as others have said we need a pacey CF who can create something out of nothing and Giroud aint that.

Wingers aswell if im being greedy Di Maria would do nicely.

Confidence on getting all them extremely low.

AdamD · 26-08-2013 9:55pm

Well at least I've never found an Arsenal game as utterly boring as that was

Marty McFly · 26-08-2013 9:57pm

AdamD wrote: »

Well at least I've never found an Arsenal game as utterly boring as that was

Christ that was shocking alright, Mata and Kagawa not even featuring shocking.

gnfnrhead · 26-08-2013 10:01pm

Marty McFly wrote: »

Christ that was shocking alright, Mata and Kagawa not even featuring shocking.

Mata didn't play? Maybe they don't want to risk his move to us with an injury?

gosplan · 26-08-2013 10:03pm

The problem with Cabaye is that he won't make our first team.

But seriously everyone, he we are debating the people that we're actually linked with.

They'll never happen.

Wenger will come up with some left of field madness to surprise us. Not saying it'll be a good surprise or not.

gosplan · 26-08-2013 10:05pm

greendom wrote: »

Todor Nedelev 20 year old Bulgarian winger. We are apparently on the verge of signing him after a 3 million euro offer from Roma was turned down. Spurs were also interested apparently.

Nice. And there was I earlier n the summer thinking we'd have to settle for Suarez rather than hold out for 'the pride of Botev Plovdiv'.

bad2dabone · 26-08-2013 10:11pm

Todor Nedelev : anagram : Revolt Needed

(stolen from Twitter)

greendom · 26-08-2013 10:21pm

gosplan wrote: »

Nice. And there was I earlier n the summer thinking we'd have to settle for Suarez rather than hold out for 'the pride of Botev Plovdiv'.

Saw a tweet saying he was the Bulgarian Bale :rolleyes:

greendom · 26-08-2013 10:24pm

Di Maria swansong...?

http://www.marca.com/2013/08/26/en/football/real_madrid/1377540131.html

Marty McFly · 26-08-2013 10:37pm

Neville talking Arsenal now for anyone who switched off.

ugsparky · 26-08-2013 10:42pm

Kirby wrote: »

Don't you think BS3 and PM4 did well at the back last time out though? Especially as LK6 was suspended. CJ25 was muck though. Surely MA8 and JW10 can help out the back four adequately while LP9 and TW14 maraud forward? Also, do you think you will sign WR10 or LS7 before the window shuts?

I would have just facepalmed your post but I get the feeling you wouldn't have gotten the point.

Didn't think CJ25 was muck - neither now so that's a BF0 ... think we'll see a few surprises though in N5 ... a lot of people are thinking that Arsene is being smug and deluding us ... is it possible he has two or three lined up instead, one of them being a massive surprise completely off everyone's radar? ...

Didn't understand the thing about the facepalm ... and didn't even see it as my eyes are fecked ... can barely see the letters on the keyboard ... you're right ... I'd have no idea what you're talking about ... Verms or TV5 as he is commonly referred to in the Highbury Barn ... in Islington ... N5 ...

Marty McFly · 26-08-2013 10:50pm

So more of the same

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-karim-benzema-been-2225958

Also talks have been taking place with Flamini and his agent who happens to be Darren Dein.

tayto lover · 26-08-2013 10:57pm

Marty McFly wrote: »

So more of the same

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-transfers-karim-benzema-been-2225958

Also talks have been taking place with Flamini and his agent who happens to be Darren Dein.

Paper and ink again Marty.

26-08-2013 11:00pm

I'm still holding out for Cesc...

...:pac:

speedboatchase · 26-08-2013 11:05pm

From The Times tomorrow:

Arsenal are expected to lodge a fresh £13.5 million offer for Yohan Cabaye in the next 24 hours after having an initial offer rejected last week.
The midfielder asked Newcastle United to excuse him from the opening two league games of the season and he believes that he will have more chance to start regularly at Arsenal than at Paris Saint-Germain, who are also interested in him.

Arsenal will move for one of Gareth Barry, the Manchester City midfielder, Josuha Guilavogui, of Saint-Étienne, or Morgan Schneiderlin, of Southampton, if their attempt to land Cabaye fails. Barry would be the cheapest and is considered surplus to requirements at the Etihad Stadium. Schneiderlin, impressive in his first season in the Barclays Premier League, signed a new contract at St Mary’s in February, but would be tempted by the prospect of a move to North London. Guilavogui, 19, has broken into the France squad, but Saint-Étienne would countenance a sale for about £10 million.

Arsenal have withdrawn their interest in Vicente Guaita, after a £3.2 million offer was rejected by Valencia for the goalkeeper last week. Iker Casillas, linked to Arsenal, was left out of the Real Madrid starting side against Granada last night.

UnknownSpecies · 27-08-2013 12:04am

speedboatchase wrote: »

From The Times tomorrow:

Arsenal are expected to lodge a fresh £13.5 million offer for Yohan Cabaye in the next 24 hours after having an initial offer rejected last week.
The midfielder asked Newcastle United to excuse him from the opening two league games of the season and he believes that he will have more chance to start regularly at Arsenal than at Paris Saint-Germain, who are also interested in him.

Arsenal will move for one of Gareth Barry, the Manchester City midfielder, Josuha Guilavogui, of Saint-Étienne, or Morgan Schneiderlin, of Southampton, if their attempt to land Cabaye fails. Barry would be the cheapest and is considered surplus to requirements at the Etihad Stadium. Schneiderlin, impressive in his first season in the Barclays Premier League, signed a new contract at St Mary’s in February, but would be tempted by the prospect of a move to North London. Guilavogui, 19, has broken into the France squad, but Saint-Étienne would countenance a sale for about £10 million.

Arsenal have withdrawn their interest in Vicente Guaita, after a £3.2 million offer was rejected by Valencia for the goalkeeper last week. Iker Casillas, linked to Arsenal, was left out of the Real Madrid starting side against Granada last night.

Would be disgusted if we go for Gareth Barry instead of pushing the boat a bit further for Cabaye. Cabaye would definitely be a good addition and I can see him fitting nicely into our squad and style of play. Gareth Barry though? Also, Valencia said it's going to take (iirc) £20mil + to get Guaita so I think we can forget about that if we only offer £3.2mil initially.

Come the end of this window, the most I expect we'll do is Flamini and Di Maria possibly. It's an awful pity we had to wait so long for Champions League to be confirmed as I suspect we've missed several good opportunities as a result. That being said, the lack of Champions League football seems to be affecting us a lot more than say, Liverpool when it comes to attracting players. I've always wondered why that is.