Carl Froch vs George Groves

getuponthis · 30-05-2014 10:59pm

Heading into forbidden fruit tomorrow and want to catch the fight aswell, what places in town will be showing it and what time are we expecting the ring walk? 10:30ish?

zweton · 30-05-2014 11:00pm

A2LUE42 wrote: »

Press the Box Office button on your Sky Remote. Go to Sports. You can order it there for €21.95

i dont have sky, could i buy online and hook up with a hdmi cable?

Tilikum · 30-05-2014 11:00pm

Can you get this fight with UPC?

willmunny1990 · 30-05-2014 11:08pm

Tilikum wrote: »

Can you get this fight with UPC?

Yes. I got it in earlier on today.

Tilikum · 30-05-2014 11:10pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

Yes. I got it in earlier on today.

How much was it?

willmunny1990 · 30-05-2014 11:13pm

Tilikum wrote: »

How much was it?

21.95

Heisenberg1 · 30-05-2014 11:20pm

willmunny1990 wrote: »

21.95

You sure ? UPC website says €24.95

willmunny1990 · 30-05-2014 11:32pm

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

You sure ? UPC website says €24.95

Sorry you're right, I had someone ring in for me, I just read the 21.95 off the PPV channel but now I see it again thats for Sky not UPC.

newballsplease · 31-05-2014 12:08am

Gonna be funny when its over after 2 rounds.

Henno30 · 31-05-2014 2:19am

walshb wrote: »

If Groves' stamina is very good then he has a great chance. They have been replaying the first fight. Groves looked really gassy from rd 5 onwards. Worrying. Sure, he put a lot in, but he was blowing hard and looked very tired. Watching the training camps it seems that Groves is taking the fitness/stamina issue very seriously. Either he improves the stamina or he boxes a little more conservatively and a little less gung ho to conserve the stamina.

Good post. I'm starting to think most people are overestimating Groves' ability at this point. His stamina is definitely a factor, but so is his lack of an inside game, his weak defence, and his poor control of distance.

People are focusing a lot on rounds like the 6th in the first fight where he lit Froch up in the exchanges. But it's rounds like the 7th he really needs. Low number of exchanges, but he lands the stand out punch in most of them. Like I've said before on this thread, he can pour it on Froch early and look to take him out. But what if that doesn't work?

From when the tide started to turn in the last fight, a number of things were made fairly clear. Groves doesn't jab enough to keep Froch at a safe distance. He's hittable from the outside even with Carl's ridiculously wide shots. And he doesn't turn Froch enough when Froch comes charging in.

If he can't catch Froch coming in and then smother him immediately, then he need to get under his shots, step around, and turn him. Otherwise he's just going to be standing there with his gloves up while Froch tees off. And that's only going to lead to one conclusion.

MD1990 · 31-05-2014 9:30am

Froch looked very tired too in the 8th & 9th rounds.

nacho libre · 31-05-2014 10:01am

Carl's iron will and punch resistance has seen him exceed at world level , where others with greater talent have faltered. However, i think Groves has his number. Groves will box economically this time. He was naive last time, by trying to get Carl out of there early, which caused him to expend huge amounts of energy. Groves is a smart man- and so is Fitzpatrick, they will have seen what others here have seen and worked on those flaws. This fight will be similar to the Taylor v Froch fight, Groves outboxing Carl, but crucially unlike Taylor, i think Groves' stamina will not let him down.

Mr_Red · 31-05-2014 10:02am

I think Groves will win this fight tonight. looking forward to it

walshb · 31-05-2014 12:33pm

Henno30 wrote: »

Good post. I'm starting to think most people are overestimating Groves' ability at this point. His stamina is definitely a factor, but so is his lack of an inside game, his weak defence, and his poor control of distance.
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I would tend to agree. Even though I have a sneaky bet on a rd 3 KO win for Groves. That's more to do with him landing one perfect shot.

I still think it's Groves' fight to lose. He should be identical to fight 1 with just less intensity and eagerness to throw heavy leather. This should help his energy reserves.

For two world class boxers neither has any quality on the inside. Grab and clinch is the best they have, with the odd rabbit punch. It's why the likes of Ward beats them all day.

Both men were tiring in fight 1. George more so. I would be very surprised to see Froch win a decision. I have a feeling it may get very ropey for Groves as it enters the later rds if his stamina and tactics aren't spot on.

walshb · 31-05-2014 12:34pm

ADMIN: Check weights this morning sees Froch at 176.2 and Groves almost a pound lighter at 175.4.

supersean1999 · 31-05-2014 1:26pm

Not a clue as to how the fight will go, it's hard to call tbh, if groves is smart he can win , i just hope it's a clear result, id love to see groves win, I'm not a froch fan to say the least,,boxers give him trouble so ill slightly favour groves on points, anything other than the perfect game plan and froch might wear him down ,

MD1990 · 31-05-2014 1:47pm

walshb wrote: »

ADMIN: Check weights this morning sees Froch at 176.2 and Groves almost a pound lighter at 175.4.

He's definentley going to for the most part going to fight more similar to the Degale fight in 2011.

willmunny1990 · 31-05-2014 2:34pm

MD1990 wrote: »

He's definentley going to for the most part going to fight more similar to the Degale fight in 2011.

If he does adopt those tactics, which he should if hes smart, he'll have an easier time out boxing Froch than he did DeGale.

supersean1999 · 31-05-2014 2:36pm

MD1990 wrote: »

He's definentley going to for the most part going to fight more similar to the Degale fight in 2011.

He has too. Imo looking back on it knocking froch so early cost him the fight. He prob changed tactics. It was still a stupid stopage all the same. We can all guess and give opinions but how many of us as certain enough in this fight to put the house or the wife on it 😃

Rossi IRL · 31-05-2014 3:47pm

Hey all, just wondering if i plug my phone line into my sky box to order the fight now, can i then plug it out of the skybox now and will the fight still come on at 6?

Thanks