Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/2014

batistuta9

quick question;

why was Henry talking about arsenal seeing saurez contract & saying it should've been kept confidential?

if he literally means what he says there, that implies arsenal have seen it & think there's a clause if they made the bid of 40mil & a pound, does it not?

and the PFA have said it's not 'iron-clad' and open to 'interpretation'

Boom_Bap

batistuta9 wrote: »

quick question;

why was Henry talking about arsenal seeing saurez contract & saying it should've been kept confidential?

if he literally means what he says there, that implies arsenal have seen it & think there's a clause if they made the bid of 40mil & a pound, does it not?

and the PFA have said it's not 'iron-clad' and open to 'interpretation'

Put it this way, you would never see the contract that I have signed with my company, if you did, how?

And he is implying that agents are too diruptive and the source of this.

skywalker

El Spearo wrote: »

Tsk.... All lies. I'm clearly not gone yet. That's photoshopped.

Anyway,

Here's a good deal. Not sure if it's open to Ireland though

http://content.paddypower.com/ppc-pages/sportsbook/affiliates/lfc-shirt-promo-mpu.html

Debatable whether thats a good deal. The required bet is £45.

Kess73

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I like that starting 11. But Assaidi is going to on loan to QPR, so he defintiely wont be in the squad.
I think that Assaidi is a good player, I think we have seen that, but he's more of an out and out winger that hugs the line. So he doesnt really suit how we line out.

Player is not keen on going to QPR it appears. He was interviewed for Dutch tv and said that he would prefer a move to one of Feyenoord or Anderlecht, and that the former have also made an offer to either buy or loan him.


Going by the tv interview, it seems that terms have been agreed between QPR and Liverpool for the loan deal, but that the player is waiting to see how things pan out with the other offers before commiting himself.

Boom_Bap

Kess73 wrote: »

Player is not keen on going to QPR it appears. He was interviewed for Dutch tv and said that he would prefer a move to one of Feyenoord or Anderlecht, and that the former have also made an offer to either buy or loan him.


Going by the tv interview, it seems that terms have been agreed between QPR and Liverpool for the loan deal, but that the player is waiting to see how things pan out with the other offers before commiting himself.

Yeah, I did hear that Anderlecht were the favorites, and all parties were keen, just a case of the 2 clubs being at 2 different figures. Then QPR vultured in.

Kess73

Dickerty wrote: »

Interestingly, against Valarenga, his best moments were when he came inside. Two lovely flick offloads in the box, one for Stevie who shot over, and one for Sterling's goal. He's definately a player who could get a hat-full of MOTM awards at a lower level, he's all about attacking and trying to make something happen. Not unlike Sterling and Ibe, but at their age, they can be moulded to our style better.

In Holland he used to cut inside and run atthe defence on a very regular basis. A lot of his goals there came that way. It is part of his game already, and I think if he did end up going to QPR over Feyenoord, then he could well add to his selling value as he has the quality to do well with a run of regular games.

batistuta9

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Put it this way, you would never see the contract that I have signed with my company, if you did, how?

And he is implying that agents are too diruptive and the source of this.

i know the two ways it could've happened

a) guardiola (isn't it?) tells arsenal there's that clause

b) guardiola shows them the contract, arsenal reckons there's a clause

that's why i said literally means what he says, which is option B

so i was trying to find out if anyone knows if there's some clause, there has to be you'd think if it's B, so what exactly is it?

Courtesy Flush

jcsoulinger wrote: »

Don't care if his apology is as sarcastic as father jacks if he starts scoring like last season all is forgiven

Dont know about that. Have we so little self respect that we will tolerate literally any behaviour ?
I would find it very difficult to cheer him on now anyways

Paulegend

batistuta9 wrote: »

i know the two ways it could've happened

a) guardiola (isn't it?) tells arsenal there's that clause

b) guardiola shows them the contract, arsenal reckons there's a clause

that's why i said literally means what he says, which is option B

so i was trying to find out if anyone knows if there's some clause, there has to be you'd think if it's B, so what exactly is it?

surely thats a breach of the premier league rules though??

batistuta9

Paulegend wrote: »

surely thats a breach of the premier league rules though??

thats not what i'm looking to find out

& who cares, they'll just fine them, what will be pittance to them (i imagine it'll be a fine)

rob316

Look lads there is only one clause..

Paulegend

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

Dont know about that. Have we so little self respect that we will tolerate literally any behaviour ?
I would find it very difficult to cheer him on now anyways

we dont need to forgive him just yet. make him earn our trust again

.jacksparrow.

Paulegend wrote: »

surely thats a breach of the premier league rules though??

Ah sure that doesn't matter, Liverpool Fulham Dempsey last season?

Turtyturd

batistuta9 wrote: »

thats not what i'm looking to find out

I am just trying to clutch at a few straws.

:pac:

Enrique gonna move to the left wing, after engaging beast mode there, for a few games last season?

mike65

rob316 wrote: »

Look lads there is only one clause..

/\ American imposter! /\

Paulegend

batistuta9 wrote: »

thats not what i'm looking to find out

& who cares, they'll just fine them, what will be pittance to them (i imagine it'll be a fine)

yea i guess your right. i would just like to wipe that smug grin off wengers face

in relation to your question the clause if there is one could be anything. id say its a wording thing. if the clause can be read differently it would mean its written in a way that it doesnt mean anything

for example: if a bid of more than 40 million pounds is made to liverpool fc. then liverpool fc must inform mr suarez to make him aware of negotiations for his services.

in a way something like that could be read as a bid of over 40 million triggers negotiations for suarez but also it could be easily read that it just lets suarez know that a bid was made. it depends on what side you want the outcome to be. im not saying this was the clause or that there even is one but if there is id imagine its something along those lines.


id say myself though that it wasnt a clause but the "understanding" that he could go for more than 40 million if we didnt get champioins league. id say that his agent approached arsenal after the first bid and told them that, and told them liverpool would likely sell for that price as they would be happy with the profit

Knex*

[FactOfTheDay]Coca Cola changed the colour of Santa from green to red in one of the most successful ad campaigns of all time.[/FactOfTheDay]


That's all I got, really.

Paulegend

mike65 wrote: »

/\ American imposter! /\

actually it was a german that made him red:D

.jacksparrow.

Paulegend wrote: »

yea i guess your right. i would just like to wipe that smug grin off wengers face

in relation to your question the clause if there is one could be anything. id say its a wording thing. if the clause can be read differently it would mean its written in a way that it doesnt mean anything

for example: if a bid of more than 40 million pounds is made to liverpool fc. then liverpool fc must inform mr suarez to make him aware of negotiations for his services.

in a way something like that could be read as a bid of over 40 million triggers negotiations for suarez but also it could be easily read that it just lets suarez know that a bid was made. it depends on what side you want the outcome to be. im not saying this was the clause or that there even is one but if there is id imagine its something along those lines.


id say myself though that it wasnt a clause but the "understanding" that he could go for more than 40 million if we didnt get champioins league. id say that his agent approached arsenal after the first bid and told them that, and told them liverpool would likely sell for that price as they would be happy with the profit

You would love to wipe the smile off Wengers face?

I'm sure he really cares about your opinion.

Such hate.

gafferino

If anyone listens to Today FM Carragher about to be on the Ray D'Arcy show after the news.

5starpool

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Ah sure that doesn't matter, Liverpool Fulham Dempsey last season?

I seem to recall Liverpool were forced to issue a formal apology to Fulham over that to stop them being reported to the PL. Every club does it to some extent or another, absolutely, but it is against the rules.

It doesn't matter now anyway it seems, let's move on and get back to hoping Spurs/Utd do badly in the coming season. We'll all be friends and be happy when Arsenal finish 3rd, Liverpool 4th, utd 5th and spurs 6th.

Yes, that's likely, definitely

super_furry

Well lets see if Arsenal make it to the Champions League first of all - they've just been drawn with Fenerbahce in the play-off.

Paulegend

Knex. wrote: »

[FactOfTheDay]Coca Cola changed the colour of Santa from green to red in one of the most successful ad campaigns of all time.[/FactOfTheDay]


That's all I got, really.

another fact: coca cola where not the original ones that made santa red


they started running an ad campaign featuring the red suit that was originally drawn by some german dude almost 100 year prior

mike65

"I'd loved it, really love it!"

Knex*

super_furry wrote: »

Well lets see if Arsenal make it to the Champions League first of all - they've just been drawn with Fenerbahce in the play-off.

Go on Kuyt my son!

5live

Carra interview on TodayFM in a few minutes if anybody interested

LuckyLloyd

Haha, big game Dirk might make things interesting anyway.

Dickerty

Knex. wrote: »

Go on Kuyt my son!

How spectacular would that be!!!

I know it is a bit of schadenfreude, but I can live with that. I know I'm not perfect.

Paulegend

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

You would love to wipe the smile off Wengers face?

I'm sure he really cares about your opinion.

Such hate.

i dont care if he cares what i think. i think he is smug and over rated. he has been a brilliant manager in the past and he has done amazing for you guys but he should have went up stairs years ago. the man should always be held in high regard at your club but he ran out of ideas years ago and his stubborn approach to football is keeping ye from winning anything.

fact is that if arsenal dont get suarez then he will probably sign an unknown lad

years ago he was able to sign gems but these days its more arshavin, gervinho, park, chamack and santos rather than viera and henry

id bring in someone new possibly at the end of this year. bring in pep or klopp and give wenger full control of the youth development at arsenal

5starpool

5live wrote: »

Carra interview on TodayFM in a few minutes if anybody interested

Ray D'Arcy is too sanctimonious to listen to. I'd have the urge to punch someone after listening to him, and at work that's a bad urge to have. Post some cliff notes here afterwards please?

poundhound

Arsenal just got Fenerbache in the champions league qualifier.

Champions league football is now not a forgone conclusion.

In Dirk Kuyt we trust.

Vicxas

poundhound wrote: »

Arsenal just got Fenerbache in the champions league qualifier.

Champions league football is now not a forgone conclusion.

In Dirk Kuyt we trust.

So Arsenal aren't even in the group stages!?

ronjo

Vicxas wrote: »

So Arsenal aren't even in the group stages!?

You dont follow football very closely then?

Raif Severance

Suarez and Guardiola have vastly Miscalculated this, since Day 1.

They really have Overesitmated Suarez' Appeal to other European Clubs.

There might have been more Suitors, if the Ivanovic Incident didn't happen. But it did happen.

It serves as a Painful Reminder to other Clubs, as to what they are dealing with.

And if History's not enough, the current Ongoing Saga, will make them take heed, that it has a tendency to Bite the Hand that Feeds it.

Vicxas

ronjo wrote: »

You dont follow football very closely then?

Not Arsenal. No

Hannibal

poundhound wrote: »

Arsenal just got Fenerbache in the champions league qualifier.

Champions league football is now not a forgone conclusion.

In Dirk Kuyt we trust.

Raul Meireles there aswell, Fener will make it tough for Arsenal

Bray Header

Chucky the tree wrote: »

6/10. Not enough subtlety I felt so you lose a few marks there.

Loving the Arse thread meltdown, was in a really bad mood due to a poorly Mum today, this is just the tonic!

Boom_Bap

Arsenal might get a by for that Fener match, they are still not cleared to play due to a match fixing scandal.

Francie Barrett

witnessrenegade wrote: »

Bye bye Jay, you tried your best, good luck with Bolton!

A real shame that Spearing wasn't that little bit better - would love to have kept him as a squad player.

5starpool

Hannibal wrote: »

Raul Meireles there aswell, Fener will make it tough for Arsenal

They should still get through without too many dramas I'd say, but not the easiest of draws alright. 4-2 on aggregate I'd say. 1-1 in the first leg in Turkey.

Paulegend

Vicxas wrote: »

Not Arsenal. No

well the beauty of the whole thing is they always felt it was a forgone conclusion that they would make the group stage so if they dont make it....................................:D

5live

5starpool wrote: »

Ray D'Arcy is too sanctimonious to listen to. I'd have the urge to punch someone after listening to him, and at work that's a bad urge to have. Post some cliff notes here afterwards please?

He will probably start with 'I played a bit of soccer myself...':-D

Kess73

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Arsenal might get a by for that Fener match, they are still not cleared to play due to a match fixing scandal.

Nope will not happen. Has already been stated that if Fener get thrown out of the competition then another Turkish team will be taking their place.

Should really not make much difference either way to Arsenal though as they are more than good enough to put Fener or a lesser Turkish team to the sword.

.jacksparrow.

Paulegend wrote: »

well the beauty of the whole thing is they always felt it was a forgone conclusion that they would make the group stage so if they dont make it....................................:D

Such hate.

Vicxas

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Such hate.

Not hate. Just competition

GavRedKing

Paulegend wrote: »

id bring in someone new possibly at the end of this year. bring in pep or klopp and give wenger full control of the youth development at arsenal

Pep? as in Guardiola? You do realise hes only joined Bayern and the chances of him moving after 1 season is very unlikely.

Paulegend

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Such hate.

no the feeling is bliss

liverpool are in a great position. they have made some signings they are playing some of the best football in the country. they have a striker that ye want but cant have and things are looking bright.

arsenal have champions league that is the only thing that attracts players to the club and they cant even guarantee that after todays draw. but at least ye have a "huge transfer budget" :rolleyes: was it 70 million??? pfft

Riesen_Meal

Jamie Carragher Interview from Today FM....

https://app.box.com/s/chsxgz50vdviod4eitq1

.jacksparrow.

Vicxas wrote: »

Not hate. Just competition

Well if its competition it would be better for arsenal to beat them and Stay in the champions
League which would be a distraction from the league which will benefit Liverpool seems yous see us as top 4 rivals.

So go on tell me how arsenal going out of the champions league is great for Liverpool in terms of competition?