Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/2014

spockety

I can see it now. Carroll gets 30 goals this season, 24 of which come from headers at the end of a Downing cross.

Vanolder

RustySpoon wrote: »

That left back looks VERY left footed from that video.

* obviously small sample size of that video

Was he signed as a left back or left wing?

Vicxas

spockety wrote: »

I can see it now. Carroll gets 30 goals this season, 24 of which come from headers at the end of a Downing cross.

Would that be a big slap in the face.....

I think so.

So, whos downing replacement?

noodler

More outs than ins at this stage?

djPSB

So Downing and Carroll end up with Big Sam and Pulis signed Adam.

Would make you wonder what kind of a team Comolli/Kenny were trying to build.

Trying to get those players to link with the likes of Suarez was madness.

noodler

djPSB wrote: »

So Downing and Carroll end up with Big Sam and Pulis signed Adam.

Would make you wonder what kind of a team Comolli/Kenny were trying to build.

Trying to get those players to link with the likes of Suarez was madness.

I don't think it works like that!

Handsome Bob

spockety wrote: »

I can see it now. Carroll gets 30 goals this season, 24 of which come from headers at the end of a Downing cross.

Said the same thing to my mate in work this morning. It'd be maddening!

mike65

Knex. wrote: »

Tony Barrett must really be out of the loop at the moment. He's been dreadful recently.

True that, two years ago you'd have bet your house on his info.

noodler wrote: »

More outs than ins at this stage?

First Team Squad out

Downing (subject to T&Cs)
Carroll
Spearing
Shelvey
Reina (loan to sell)
Robinson (loan)
Ngoo (loan)
Coady (loan)

First team squad in

Toure
Mignolet
Aspas
Alberto

noodler

mike65 wrote: »

True that, two years ago you'd have bet your house on his info.



First Team Squad out

Downing (subject to T&Cs)
Carroll
Spearing
Shelvey
Reina (loan to sell)
Robinson (loan)
Ngoo (loan)
Coady (loan)

First team squad in

Toure
Mignolet
Aspas
Alberto

Could have kept Reina and Downing imo but whatever.

Francie Barrett

Out of the players that have left, I can't think of a single exit I disagree with.

Courtesy Flush

mike65 wrote: »

True that, two years ago you'd have bet your house on his info.



First Team Squad out

Downing (subject to T&Cs)
Carroll
Spearing
Shelvey
Reina (loan to sell)
Robinson (loan)
Ngoo (loan)
Coady (loan)

First team squad in

Toure
Mignolet
Aspas
Alberto

Cant argue too much with the outs
The ins are a little light tho considering how far we were from top 4 last year

Dickerty

Vicxas wrote: »

So, whos downing replacement?

That's what I am wondering, they must be confident about a signing if they are letting him go now, but maybe West Ham got impatient and we had to make a call - sell now, or potentially lose a buyer.

Grayditch

Need. More. Ins.

mike65

Crikey - CHAD Henderson better look out.

rob316

djPSB wrote: »

So Downing and Carroll end up with Big Sam and Pulis signed Adam.

Would make you wonder what kind of a team Comolli/Kenny were trying to build.

Trying to get those players to link with the likes of Suarez was madness.

Tells you how much Kenny was out of touch with the game.

Grayditch

rob316 wrote: »

Tells you how much Kenny was out of touch with the game.

Two finals, one cup. He wasn't THAT out of touch with the game on the pitch.

Turtyturd

Sad to see Stewy D go...I will always remember him tearing dowen the left wing, checking inside, and passing the ball back to Enrique.

Vicxas

Dickerty wrote: »

That's what I am wondering, they must be confident about a signing if they are letting him go now, but maybe West Ham got impatient and we had to make a call - sell now, or potentially lose a buyer.

So unless we've someone lined up, we have the following

Sturridge --- Suarez (If he ever comes back)

---

Aspas?

Or am I wrong?

joe123

With the sale of Downing, surely we have someone lined up that will go straight into the first team.

Im happy the sale, ONLY if we bring in someone. Ibe and Sterling look like they will be excellent players, but cannot be relied upon yet.

mike65

Aspas or Ibe/Sterling will fill in the right flank for the first game. Then we wait and see.

We'll have some idea with the Melwood friendly against Newcastle on Wednesday (I think it is)

I don't think we should be selling Downing. He has played far better than a lot of people in here make out who appear blinded by there dislike of the player.

Dickerty

mike65 wrote: »

Aspas or Ibe/Sterling will fill in the right flank for the first game. Then we wait and see.

We'll have some idea with the Melwood friendly against Newcastle on Wednesday (I think it is)

But won't most players be away with their countries?

Aspas, Sturridge and Coutinho front 3 for this w/e.

MD1990

mike65 wrote: »

True that, two years ago you'd have bet your house on his info.



First Team Squad out

Downing (subject to T&Cs) - 6m
Carroll - 18m
Spearing - 1.75m
Shelvey - 5m
Reina (loan to sell) - 2m not sure?
Robinson (loan)
Ngoo (loan)
Coady (loan)

First team squad in

Toure
Mignolet -9m
Aspas - 7m
Alberto - 6.8m

so total spent - 22.8m
total recieved - 32.75m

so disapointing with the new tv money that we are not making any big signings

5starpool

Ya, getting rid of Downing means that someone else that can play in wide areas must be brought in, and I don't mean that young lad Atsu. We have enough young promising wingers, and would like someone who doesn't need to develop into the role. Given how much attacking Johnson does as well, someone who isn't afraid to track back and help out when needed would be good.

Hopefully West Ham don't do to us next season what we did to them last season with 3 former players scoring against their former team.

mike65

Dickerty,

Well all the players mentioned will be available. Liverpool have fewer internationals these days!

This weeks games - Johnson/Gerrard/Mignolet/Suarez/Assaidi is the list I think!

Francie Barrett

Briana Strong Leader wrote: »

I don't think we should be selling Downing. He has played far better than a lot of people in here make out who appear blinded by there dislike of the player.

I think most people would accept that he's not good enough to start. If that's the case, would you rather use him as backup/rotation - or give Ibe and Sterling a chance instead?

I still think we will bring in one big name attacker before the window closes.

billy2012

Potential top left players who can score goals??

billy2012

Ince???

MD1990

Stewart Downing is off

Lovely Bloke

billy2012 wrote: »

top left

Are you a culchie?

Red Crow

Ryan McLaughlin again has rejected a senior call up from Northern Ireland and Michael O'Neill confirmed it today. I think it does nothing for a young lads development getting a call up into this joke of a set-up at the moment. The IFA are too interested in giving débuts to young, inexperienced men for the sole purpose of not allowing them to 'defect' to the Republic of Ireland. I think he is one of the few Belfast guys at his age that has a chance of making it and he's been a solid performer for a number of years. He's made the right call here IMO.

GTR63

billy2012 wrote: »

Potential top left players who can score goals??

+ would want to come to us and is available this late in the market.

Cartman78

Turtyturd wrote: »

Sad to see Stewy D go...I will always remember him tearing dowen the left wing, checking inside, and passing the ball back to Enrique.

or tearing down the right wing, cutting inside, lining up a thunderbolt shot and.....dragging/slicing it wide.

Seems like a decent bloke, solid pro etc. - will he get in the starting XI ahead of Jarvis?

Hannibal

MD1990 wrote: »

so total spent - 22.8m
total recieved - 32.75m

so disapointing with the new tv money that we are not making any big signings

even with the rumoured £21m double signing of Alderweireld and Eriksen it's still only a 10 or 11m net spend which is what Rafa had to deal with and our squad thinned out with Ngog, Voronin, El Zhar, Degen etc providing first team cover which was ridiculous. I know the double Ajax signing has gone completely cold the last month or so

SlickRic

i was no supporter of Downing staying, but there is no point in getting rid of him unless more attacking players are being brought in.

it's as simple as that.

it would actually be irresponsible, as we'd be relying far too heavily on Sterling and Ibe making a consistent impact.

Dickerty

mike65 wrote: »

Dickerty,

Well all the players mentioned will be available. Liverpool have fewer internationals these days!

This weeks games - Johnson/Gerrard/Mignolet/Suarez/Assaidi is the list I think!

Allen, Agger, Skrtel as well I think? Unless the latter excluded due to injury.

Devilman40k

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/142356-br-we-re-working-hard-on-deals

Looks like there will be more coming in, and Rodgers see's Coutinho's role for the coming season as a No.10

fingers crossed!!

Dickerty

Cartman78 wrote: »

or tearing down the right wing, cutting inside, lining up a thunderbolt shot and.....dragging/slicing it wide.

Seems like a decent bloke, solid pro etc. - will he get in the starting XI ahead of Jarvis?

Opposite wing to Jarvis, two proper wingers for Big Andy...

mike65

Dickerty wrote: »

Allen, Agger, Skrtel as well I think? Unless the latter excluded due to injury.

Forgot about Allen and Skrtel (joke in there somewhere) Agger is injured.

Vicxas

So with Downing gone, there HAS to be someone else coming in....




Right?

5starpool

Eli Manning wrote: »

Ryan McLaughlin again has rejected a senior call up from Northern Ireland and Michael O'Neill confirmed it today. I think it does nothing for a young lads development getting a call up into this joke of a set-up at the moment. The IFA are too interested in giving débuts to young, inexperienced men for the sole purpose of not allowing them to 'defect' to the Republic of Ireland. I think he is one of the few Belfast guys at his age that has a chance of making it and he's been a solid performer for a number of years. He's made the right call here IMO.

He has looked excellent at u-18 and u-21 anytime I've seen him, a real prospect, but he is still only young so far too early to tell. I've no idea if he is just doing it as he wants to keep his options open to play for the republic, or just because he thinks he's not ready yet, but I have real hopes he will turn out to be a very good player.

Hannibal wrote: »

even with the rumoured £21m double signing of Alderweireld and Eriksen it's still only a 10 or 11m net spend which is what Rafa had to deal with and our squad thinned out with Ngog, Voronin, El Zhar, Degen etc providing first team cover which was ridiculous. I know the double Ajax signing has gone completely cold the last month or so

There really have been no rumours around these lately except regurgitated things from months ago. From what I've read on these players, if we were seriously in for them we could have had them months ago. Perhaps we are still interested and have been waiting for financial reasons or something, but I would be surprised if we signed either, especially if Skrtel has been told that he is not leaving this window as has been rumoured. If he has been told that, I reckon it would be with a view to signing Papadopolous in Jan or next summer if he can prove his fitness.

gafferino

Hannibal wrote: »

even with the rumoured £21m double signing of Alderweireld and Eriksen it's still only a 10 or 11m net spend which is what Rafa had to deal with and our squad thinned out with Ngog, Voronin, El Zhar, Degen etc providing first team cover which was ridiculous. I know the double Ajax signing has gone completely cold the last month or so

Yeah....rumoured to be heading to Spurs

Dickerty

Vicxas wrote: »

So with Downing gone, there HAS to be someone else coming in....

Right?

I would be completely amazed if that wasn't the case. We could have gone for a reasonably cheap (for us) but inexperience option in Ince, he certainly has some goals in him, but given the noise about Costa, it seems we are looking for experience that can drop in right now, allowing Coutinho to play directly behind Sturridge rather than from the left.

The talk of Costa signing a new contract seems premature, yesterday's news is that they were still in talks, so if we bid the release clause fee, we can still get him. But it's a lot for him I think.

I expect a surprise option for attack, a LB, and only a CB if they can move Skrtel on. Coates needs to go on loan either way, he's already 5th choice.

Kess73

gafferino wrote: »

Yeah....rumoured to be heading to Spurs

Crash Bang Wall

5starpool wrote: »

He has looked excellent at u-18 and u-21 anytime I've seen him, a real prospect, but he is still only young so far too early to tell. I've no idea if he is just doing it as he wants to keep his options open to play for the republic, or just because he thinks he's not ready yet, but I have real hopes he will turn out to be a very good player.



There really have been no rumours around these lately except regurgitated things from months ago. From what I've read on these players, if we were seriously in for them we could have had them months ago. Perhaps we are still interested and have been waiting for financial reasons or something, but I would be surprised if we signed either, especially if Skrtel has been told that he is not leaving this window as has been rumoured. If he has been told that, I reckon it would be with a view to signing Papadopolous in Jan or next summer if he can prove his fitness.

A few of the supposed ITKs on twitter have been saying for a while now that we are not interested in Eriksen.

I would hope though that we have players lined up in Downing is being sold.....other than the 2 left backs we have been linked with over the w/e.

We looked poor going forward against Celtic....too much expected of Coutinho IMO

gafferino

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

A few of the supposed ITKs on twitter have been saying for a while now that we are not interested in Eriksen.

I would hope though that we have players lined up in Downing is being sold.....other than the 2 left backs we have been linked with over the w/e.

We looked poor going forward against Celtic....too much expected of Coutinho IMO

I have seen and read a few times that we are not interested in Eriksen despite media speculation. As BR has just said he thinks Coutinho is best in the middle and wants to move him there. AFAIK Eriksens best position would also be in the middle although I know he can play and has played on the wings too. Maybe Eriksen is just seen as a backup to Coutinho and not required? I doubt Eriksen would move somewhere where he is not guaranteed games.

mike65

mike65 wrote: »

Dickerty,

Well all the players mentioned will be available. Liverpool have fewer internationals these days!

This weeks games - Johnson/Gerrard/Mignolet/Suarez/Assaidi is the list I think!

Wow, a handful.


Wasn't an age ago that we had 20+ heading off.

El Inho

If there is Any more outs before ins I'll be worried

Devilman40k

El Spearo wrote: »

If there is Any more outs before ins I'll be worried

You're not worried already??

SlickRic

Vicxas wrote: »

So with Downing gone, there HAS to be someone else coming in....

Right?

if there's not, we have to assume that we're being lied to about funds, as well as the willingness to even try to compete for 4th.

whether it's been his choice or not I don't know, but Rodgers is being heading down a river if this is the squad he has to try and attain 4th.