Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/2014

Sea Sharp

Using the "only after Stephen's day" logic, the current Arsenal squad got as many points as Man Utd in the second half of last season.

LuckyLloyd

Sea Sharp wrote: »

Using the "only after Stephen's day" logic, the current Arsenal squad got as many points as Man Utd in the second half of last season.

Ha!

~Rebel~

Arsenal had a great second half of the season - 40 points out of a possible 57.

In the last 19 games of last season;
Arsenal: 40
Chelsea: 37
Spurs: 36
Liverpool: 36

The point is that over a fairly large sample, with our current first choice team (obviously including Sturridge and Coutinho), we were actually very close to the guys some consider to be on another level to us.

Just pointing out things may not be as bleak as some make out, particularly if we strengthen further - which I feel is an absolute necessity.
A big issue is Spurs strengthening, particularly with Soldado, but I think Arsenal are there for the taking if their window continues as it has thus far.

Raif Severance

Barrett...

Tony Barrett ‏@TonyBarretTimes now
My Spanish is awful but @MartinCharquero seems to be saying Suarez will stay at Liverpool & could even sign a contract extension.

Tony Barrett ‏@TonyBarretTimes 1m
I think it's safe to say there isn't a journalist in Uruguay who knows Luis Suarez better than @MartinCharquero

Vicxas

Anyone hear anything interesting on Twitter last night about the friendly yesterday?

daithijjj

Arsenal do ok because they rest the first team players and get dumped out of cups earlier than others, was it Bradford and Blackburn last year?. Only 2 games in Europe in last 4 months of the season apart from league football. Spurs were still in Europe a month after Arsenal went out. Chelsea played near 70 games last season.

In short, you can climb well in the league if you are playing nothing else but league football, Newcastle's last 2 seasons is a perfect example. I expect Swansea to take a bit of a slump this season.

Dickerty

Vicxas wrote: »

Anyone hear anything interesting on Twitter last night about the friendly yesterday?

Sturridge played 90 mins.
McLaughlin was one of our best players.
Ibe was another...

Speaking of friendlies, I see Jonjo "Stevie G" Shelvey was on show last night - a number of raking passes from deep to set up goals, and a beautiful curling finish from 25 yards.

I hope we have a big sell-on clause!

LuckyLloyd

daithijjj wrote: »

Arsenal do ok because they rest the first team players and get dumped out of cups earlier than others, was it Bradford and Blackburn last year?. Only 2 games in Europe in last 4 months of the season apart from league football. Spurs were still in Europe a month after Arsenal went out. Chelsea played near 70 games last season.

In short, you can climb well in the league if you are playing nothing else but league football, Newcastle's last 2 seasons is a perfect example. I expect Swansea to take a bit of a slump this season.

As we proved last year and during the second half of 2010 / 11.

gimli2112

From Yahoo

The striker’s U-turn is a significant fillip to the club who have been insistent all summer that the forward not be sold at any price.
"For now, because of all the affection of the people, I will be staying," Suarez told El Observador from Tokyo, where the national side are set to face Japan.

I'm desperately trying to delete all my posts since the beginning of the Summer!!!!

LuckyLloyd

'Because of the love of the fans, I stay'

=

'Because of the club's unwillingness to sell to my only suitor at the current time, I am forced to knuckle down for one more year. I will sign a contract that installs a clear release clause for ~£45m if a bid from a non EPL team is received from the summer window 2014 on. As it is a World Cup year, it is in my interests to play well. I am also motivated by my need to be in the shop window for desired foreign based suitor'

And grand really, because we amount to **** all without him tbh.

audman

For everyone who hasn't said a bad word about Suarez please join me in a guilt-free happy day

Vicxas

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

'Because of the love of the fans, I stay'

=

'Because of the club's unwillingness to sell to my only suitor at the current time, I am forced to knuckle down for one more year. I will sign a contract that installs a clear release clause for ~£45m if a bid from a non EPL team is received from the summer window 2014 on. As it is a World Cup year, it is in my interests to play well. I am also motivated by my need to be in the shop window for desired foreign based suitor'

And grand really, because we amount to **** all without him tbh.

If this is a grand flip flop, I will laugh all the way to 4th place (I hope)

whatawaster

~Rebel~ wrote: »

True to a degree, but on the other hand, our rivals first and second halves of the season were virtually identical. Spurs first 19 games yielded exactly the same points total as their second 19 games. There was only a 2.5point difference in Arsenals halves.

Our form on the other hand, with the new signings, and coming to terms with a new system, yielded far greater rewards in the latter half of the season.

We played as many cup games in the first half of last season though than we did the entire previous season when we reached two cup finals.

That, and the fact that our squad was lacking in depth, did hurt us.

Sappy404

If Barrett and half the journalists in England are reporting our interest in Willian, it's because the club wants it reported. This means one of 2 things:

- There isn't a hope of signing him and we want the credit for trying to sign him because of a poor transfer window thus far, or for a bargaining position in negotiations elsewhere

Or

- They're very confident of signing him, to the point where a deal is in the bag

I know which is more likely.

Sappy404

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LuckyLloyd

Willian would be an exciting signing. I think we'd all be pulling our hair out at him half the time, but he'd bring a sparkle to proceedings and it would crucially give us another player capable of causing mayhem out of nowhere for an opposition defense.

Any combination of:

---

Coutinho

---

Sturridge

---

Suarez

---

Willian

would be top notch. Assuming Coutinho and Sturridge maintain their form of course.

Would also help to keep Borini well away from the pitch, which is important.

machiavellianme

audman wrote: »

For everyone who hasn't said a bad word about Suarez please join me in a guilt-free happy day

I believe that'll be me. Mainly because I backed him to stay.:pac:

Sappy404

By the way, how log did Suarez's 'No talking about Liverpool while I'm in Uruguay' thing last? 25 minutes?

audman

machiavellianme wrote: »

I believe that'll be me. Mainly because I backed him to stay.:pac:

Pints? ... and a BITE to eat for the sake of it

Paulegend

thank crap i stayed diplomatic about the suarez thing from day one. always had the stance of if he stays great but if he goes we get loads of money:D diplomacy wins yet again. screw you communism

kfallon

machiavellianme wrote: »

I believe that'll be me. Mainly because I backed him to stay.:pac:

Haven't said anything bad about him either! If the staying rumours turn out to be true it'll be the happiest day of the summer for me!

Still, I'm not counting my chickens just yet.....prob cos I actually have no chickens....have a few fish fingers in the fridge tho, they might do for counting.....

Luckycharms_74

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Willian would be an exciting signing. I think we'd all be pulling our hair out at him half the time, but he'd bring a sparkle to proceedings and it would crucially give us another player capable of causing mayhem out of nowhere for an opposition defense.

Any combination of:

---

Coutinho

---

Sturridge

---

Suarez

---

Willian

would be top notch. Assuming Coutinho and Sturridge maintain their form of course.

Would also help to keep Borini well away from the pitch, which is important.

If FSG step up to the plate by pulling off a signing like Willian it will help appease the fans for the time being. We could have a real chance of a top 4 finish IF that quartet hit the ground running.
I think at home we will batter a lot of teams, just gotta work on the formation & right selection for the away games.
Bit harsh on borini but I see your point. He will do as backup and for the mickey mouse cup

audman

kfallon wrote: »

Haven't said anything bad about him either! If the staying rumours turn out to be true it'll be the happiest day of the summer for me!

Still, I'm not counting my chickens just yet.....prob cos I actually have no chickens....have a few fish fingers in the fridge tho, they might do for counting.....

Pints and BITE to eat?

skywalker

billy2012 wrote: »

WOW....I can't believe people are questioning if Willian would be a good buy going by stats on wiki.

Crazy talk!!!!

Why? I(we)ve been pretty upfront that (I)we dont know much about him, & are questioning him based on the limited info (I)we have.

The way Raif has responded, by actually telling us a bit more about the player is much more constructive than just deriding someone for daring to question a big money signing by saying hes class & were mad for questioning it based on the limited info available & leaving it at that.

fred funk }{

I'm glad he's staying, for the time being anyway, but be under no illusions lads, this is the last thing he wanted.

In a way, his suspension is a good thing as it will give the fans some time to "forgive".

Sappy404

Could there be permit issues for Willian given he only has 2 international caps?

kingshankly

Well I have said plenty bad about him but always did never liked the chap ever but I will always say I'd rather him with liverpool than without because his effort on the field of play is unrivalled and that's what he should be judged on I suppose.
Still believe he thought Madrid would come for him so its a bit of a kick on the teeth for him nobody came for him.
I'm sure most fans will still idolise him at stevies testimonial I think I was the only one that didn't cheer for him when he came on so he's still adored.
Lets hope he can keep scoring goals for us
He's a knacker but at least he's our knacker

The whole landscape changes for us if Suarez stays imo.

Some new additions to the first team and we can challenge top 4

Francie Barrett

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Willian would be an exciting signing. I think we'd all be pulling our hair out at him half the time, but he'd bring a sparkle to proceedings and it would crucially give us another player capable of causing mayhem out of nowhere for an opposition defense.

Any combination of:

---

Coutinho

---

Sturridge

---

Suarez

---

Willian

would be top notch. Assuming Coutinho and Sturridge maintain their form of course.

Would also help to keep Borini well away from the pitch, which is important.

If we had that line up, I think top 4 would be a very, very realistic prospect.

#prayforwillian

kfallon

audman wrote: »

Pints and BITE to eat?

You're mad for the pints....it's only 9.13am ffs

LuckyLloyd

Francie Barrett wrote: »

If we had that line up, I think top 4 would be a very, very realistic prospect.

#prayforwillian

I think we could still use a better CB and ideally would have a good DM to back Lucas up.

You'd also be hoping Gerrard replicates his production and presence of last season.

So Willian wouldn't solve all our problems, but it would certainly be step one towards having a shout at it.

audman

That's why I've included the option of a bite to eat

deeks

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

'Because of the love of the fans, I stay'

=

'Because of the club's unwillingness to sell to my only suitor at the current time, I am forced to knuckle down for one more year. I will sign a contract that installs a clear release clause for ~£45m if a bid from a non EPL team is received from the summer window 2014 on. As it is a World Cup year, it is in my interests to play well. I am also motivated by my need to be in the shop window for desired foreign based suitor'

And grand really, because we amount to **** all without him tbh.

How's about a bit of credit for the way FSG and Rogers have handled the situation?

audman

Suarez staying is the best bit if business Rodgers has done since coming to Liverpool. Ring a bell anyone?

I'm getting very moist, about the season ahead.

Vicxas

This made me laugh on F365:

Hmm, so Suarez is staying because of the fans? Coincidence this comes out the day after Downing has been sold, me thinks not.

Devilman40k

audman wrote: »

Suarez staying is the best bit if business Rodgers has done since coming to Liverpool. Ring a bell anyone?

Considering he's managed to perform that miracle twice he's not turning out to be half bad...

Matt_Trakker

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm getting very moist, about the season ahead.

Yea, I can't wait to finish in Europa League places again finally.

billymitchell

I presume the contract extension is only to stop him buying himself out of his contract next summer and leaving for pittance?

Sappy404

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm getting very moist, about the season ahead.

Prepare to be blue-balled when Spurs sign Willian.

Turtyturd

Didn't Torres change his mind about staying before his transfer...or at least it was reported.

IF....Suarez is forced to stay...because that will be why he stays...there will be a few disappointed posters around here.

audman

The best result for me today is Suarez staying.

The second is that some young and eager fresh bit of tidy and unspoiled meat is happy with her results, (Leaving Cert) thus making her 'Willian' to put out in her intoxicated and happy state.

It's a good day with all the potential of being a great one!

billymitchell

billymitchell wrote: »

I presume the contract extension is only to stop him buying himself out of his contract next summer and leaving for pittance?

It'll mean his valuation will hold and could increase if he has a similar season. If he can go a full season without doing something ridiculous more teams might be interested in him

audman

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm getting very moist, about the season ahead.

PM sent x

gafferino

Excellent news.....if true......lets not get our hopes up yet until its final.
So much BS has come out of his mouth this summer I dont trust that this isnt another tactic.
Heres hoping though!

Francie Barrett

I am waiting for Mr Alan to come on and lavish kudos on Ian Ayre and Brendan Rodgers for getting Suarez to say - like he said he would.

Paulegend

if suarez stays thats great but it now means instead of siging a forward player i think we need to sign a defender and someone to push lucas for a spot in the team. if we had someone who forced lucas out of team we would definitly be in line for a top 4 spot

kfallon

audman wrote: »

The best result for me today is Suarez staying.

The second is that some young and eager fresh bit of tidy and unspoiled meat is happy with her results, (Leaving Cert) thus making her put out in her intoxicated and happy state.

It's a good day with all the potential of being a great one!

Right, I'm ready to meet you for pints now, why didn't you mention this earlier....... :pac:

SlickRic

to those thankful they didn't say a bad word about Suarez, what has he done to not warrant disdain from the fans?

he's still everything he ever was.

he's still shown the club an enormous amount of disrespect, and if a suitor from abroad had come in earlier with a big bid, it wouldn't have really bothered me for him to go.

the thing is, it's now too late in the window, and only Arsenal want him - a move the club have remained staunch about him not getting.

if he now stays, fine. i'm going to find it hard to want to see him do well after his behaviour, but that will ultimately be superseded by the fact I want the club to do well, so i'll get over that one. he's our best player, and there's no way we can replace him before the transfer window's end.

not having any of this business disrupt anything in the dressing room would be an outstanding piece of work by Rodgers. it remains to be seen.

oh, and...

3 days.

gafferino

Francie Barrett wrote: »

I am waiting for Mr Alan to come on and lavish kudos on Ian Ayre and Brendan Rodgers for getting Suarez to say - like he said he would.

Well maybe he will when it actually happens and its not based on twitter rumours!