Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/2014

Devilman40k

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Genuine question here.

Rumours have it Chelsea will enter the race for Suarez, how would pool fans feel about this seems they weren't happy about him going to arsenal?

Could probably take it Chelsea will pay 50 million or whatever Liverpool are prepared to let him go for.

Strengthening Chelsea isn't as big a problem as Arsenal or Spurs, if it were to happen it would start a bidding war for him - and I'd be ok with that once we got top price AND invested it back in 2/3 quality players ON TOP of the 2 we already said we would look at getting

doc_17

I'd rather he left for a team that we won't be playing against next season. Arsenal or Chelsea ? No thanks. But if I had to pick....thas a tough oe!

klose

rarnes1 wrote: »

Has anyone a breakdown of our ins and outs this window handy?

Mr Alan

Devilman40k wrote: »

Joy...Why do I have the feeling we are going to have another season aiming at Everton.

Because everything that's happened over the last 12 months seems to indicate that's our level of ambition?

klose

klose wrote: »

Factoring in wages I'd imagine we are positive net spend this summer?

There should be plenty of money available for players.

Devilman40k

Mr Alan wrote: »

Because everything that's happened over the last 12 months seems to indicate that's our level of ambition?

I haven't spent 30 odd years as a fan just to settle for being the best team in Liverpool, if that's the level of our ambition I won't waste 30 more

Raif Severance

klose wrote: »

I seem to remember that Newcastle gets 30% Sell-on Fee on Carroll.

If that's True, then I don't think it's Reflected here.

messinkiapina

Raif Severance wrote: »

I seem to remember that Newcastle gets 30% Sell-on Fee on Carroll.

If that's True, then I don't think it's Reflected here.

£35m fee and 30% sell on? God almighty, if that's true!

Devilman40k

Raif Severance wrote: »

I seem to remember that Newcastle gets 30% Sell-on Fee on Carroll.

If that's True, then I don't think it's Reflected here.

I'm sure that was only if the fee was higher than 35million so no worry about that

Raif Severance

Raif Severance wrote: »

I seem to remember that Newcastle gets 30% Sell-on Fee on Carroll.

If that's True, then I don't think it's Reflected here.

No way that's true.

.jacksparrow.

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Genuine question here.

Rumours have it Chelsea will enter the race for Suarez, how would pool fans feel about this seems they weren't happy about him going to arsenal?

Could probably take it Chelsea will pay 50 million or whatever Liverpool are prepared to let him go for.

Link?

doc_17

Raif Severance wrote: »

I seem to remember that Newcastle gets 30% Sell-on Fee on Carroll.

If that's True, then I don't think it's Reflected here.

Good god that better not be true!

PRAF

Raif Severance wrote: »

I seem to remember that Newcastle gets 30% Sell-on Fee on Carroll.

If that's True, then I don't think it's Reflected here.

First I heard of any fee for Newcastle. Would be flabbergasted if true.

billy2012

Everton and QPR to fight it out for former Liverpool and Juventus player Momo Sissoko

Link here - http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/418884/Everton-and-QPR-to-fight-it-out-for-former-Liverpool-and-Juventus-player-Momo-Sissoko?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

Bring MOMO back!!

Raif Severance

Devilman40k wrote: »

I'm sure that was only if the fee was higher than 35million so no worry about that

Yeah. Sorry about that.

Devilman above got it Correct.

No sell on bonus for Toon if Carroll completes West Ham move

I thought that this one was done a long time ago.

However, rumours have (re)surfaced that despite receiving an absurd fee of £35 million for Andy Carroll when he was sold to Liverpool in January 2011, Newcastle United would still be due to receive 25% of the agreed £15 million fee if he completes a move to West Ham.

This is not true.

The truth is that Newcastle United will only receive a sell on bonus in the highly unlikely event that Liverpool sold him on a higher sum than the ridiculous £35 million they paid for the player. Of course, there is more chance of hell freezing over than this happening, especially now that Liverpool finally seem to be on the verge of putting the Carroll saga behind them.
There was also no substantiation whatsoever for the media stories that Andy Carroll has been “stalling” on the West Ham move in the vain hope that he could make a glorious return to St James’ Park either.

http://www.nufcblog.org/2013/05/no-sell-on-bonus-for-toon-if-carroll-completes-west-ham-move/#.Ufl7ytI3C1w

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Genuine question here.

Rumours have it Chelsea will enter the race for Suarez, how would pool fans feel about this seems they weren't happy about him going to arsenal?

Could probably take it Chelsea will pay 50 million or whatever Liverpool are prepared to let him go for.

Personally? Rather there than Arsenal. One less nail in the CL coffin.

Glico Man

billy2012 wrote: »

Link here - http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/418884/Everton-and-QPR-to-fight-it-out-for-former-Liverpool-and-Juventus-player-Momo-Sissoko?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

Bring MOMO back!!

Awful on the ball, but made up for it by going ham to win it back.

LuckyLloyd

rarnes1 wrote: »

Factoring in wages I'd imagine we are positive net spend this summer?

There should be plenty of money available for players.

We've done nothing of consequence or value in the transfer market when it comes to trying to challenge for 4th. Nowhere near acceptable thus far imo.

messinkiapina

billy2012 wrote: »

Link here - http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/418884/Everton-and-QPR-to-fight-it-out-for-former-Liverpool-and-Juventus-player-Momo-Sissoko?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+daily-express-football-news+%28Daily+Express+%3A%3A+Football+Feed%29

Bring MOMO back!!

Very good off the ball and protecting the back 4, but one of the worst Liverpool midfielders I've ever seen in possession. I'd hate to see him back!

Kerrigooney

NukaCola wrote: »

We shouldn't sell to any EPL clubs.......i'd be very disappointed.

I wouldn't be disappointed,I'd be bloody angry.

We need to be trying to catch these teams,not strengthening them.

.jacksparrow.

rarnes1 wrote: »

Link?

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-5387682

.jacksparrow.

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-transfer-rumour-mill-5387682

Nothing substantial there. Ifs and buts

Turtyturd

For the players sake I would rather he went to Chelsea of the two....he's too good for Arsenal.

From a personal point of view I would rather he went to Chelsea as an up yours for the pound thing.....and also for the lulz in the Arsenal thread.

.jacksparrow.

Turtyturd wrote: »

For the players sake I would rather he went to Chelsea of the two....he's too good for Arsenal.

From a personal point of view I would rather he went to Chelsea as an up yours for the pound thing.....and also for the lulz in the Arsenal thread.

But if the clause was 40 million as arsenal thought what were they meant to bid? 41 million?
Wasn't meant to be smart, it was meant to activate a clause which we now know doesn't exist
It

LuckyLloyd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We've done nothing of consequence or value in the transfer market when it comes to trying to challenge for 4th. Nowhere near acceptable thus far imo.

If Suarez stays we could say attack is improved although the players are untested so only time will tell.

Defense probably about the same.

Keeper not as massive difference either way.

So, as far as a challenge for 4th goes at this current time, it's not happening.

Still a lot of stuff to be resolved of course, most importantly Suarez.

Devilman40k

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

But if the clause was 40 million as arsenal thought what were they meant to bid? 41 million?
Wasn't meant to be smart, it was meant to activate a clause which we now know doesn't exist
It

Ah now ..there's bidding to activate a clause and there's being too cheeky for your own good.

If Arsenal knew about the 40m mark being the point where Liverpool had to talk to Suarez then , seeing as Arsenal went over by £1, Liverpool should make a complaint to the Premier League (Arsenal shouldn't have even known about any contract information)

.jacksparrow.

Devilman40k wrote: »

Ah now ..there's bidding to activate a clause and there's being too cheeky for your own good.

If Arsenal knew about the 40m mark being the point where Liverpool had to talk to Suarez then , seeing as Arsenal went over by £1, Liverpool should make a complaint to the Premier League (Arsenal shouldn't have even known about any contract information)

Everyone had heard the rumours about it, pool fans even admitted this last week on this thread.

Anyway arsenal won't be getting him so not to worry!

Devilman40k

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Everyone had heard the rumours about it, pool fans even admitted this last week on this thread.

Anyway arsenal won't be getting him so not to worry!

We didn't get Dempsey last year, didn't stop Fulham complaining

Kess73

El Spearo wrote: »

Leiva is gone?

Jays time to shine

Finish the book and shag off to Bolton/Blackburn.

Nuri Sahin

I'd have Momo back tbh, it'd be good cover for Lucas. Doubt Rodgers would want him though.

PhiloCypher

rarnes1 wrote: »

Tbf, I'd say most fans would be outraged if we were finished for the summer in the transfer window. Would you not?

would I be happy no , on paper our four signings aren't enough to bridge the gap to fourth , but football isn't played on paper its played on the green stuff and as I said before the success of a transfer windows can't really be judged until the end of the season proper anyways(transfer ambition maybe). We could get 3 marquee signings and they could all fail to adapt or we could be stuck with what we have and they could all end up like Coutinho, in which case which window would be considered the greater success.

Obviously that's not ideal and leaves way too much to chance but pardon me if I don't **** the bed until we know the score one way or the other.

5live

Programme on BBC1 at 11.05 Swansea city:the fall and rise. May have a little insight into Rodgers.

Or not.

Anyway, hopefully shows how a club develops when a basic style in place and managers work around that, similar to what we had and may again have.

Mr Alan

PhiloCypher wrote: »

would I be happy no , on paper our four signings aren't enough to bridge the gap to fourth , but football isn't played on paper its played on the green stuff and as I said before the success of a transfer windows can't really be judged until the end of the season proper anyways(transfer ambition maybe). We could get 3 marquee signings and they could all fail to adapt or we could be stuck with what we have and they could all end up like Coutinho, in which case which window would be considered the greater success.

Obviously that's not ideal and leaves way too much to chance but pardon me if I don't **** the bed until we know the score one way or the other.

LOL :rolleyes:

Kess73

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

I'd have Momo back tbh, it'd be good cover for Lucas. Doubt Rodgers would want him though.

Would have him back as well. His ball retention improved a lot during his time at Juve, and he looked good for PSG whenever I saw in him recent seasons prior to him being loaned out..

Would be decent cover as you said, and I always loved his high energy style of play.

5live

PhiloCypher wrote: »

would I be happy no , on paper our four signings aren't enough to bridge the gap to fourth , but football isn't played on paper its played on the green stuff and as I said before the success of a transfer windows can't really be judged until the end of the season proper anyways(transfer ambition maybe). We could get 3 marquee signings and they could all fail to adapt or we could be stuck with what we have and they could all end up like Coutinho, in which case which window would be considered the greater success.

Obviously that's not ideal and leaves way too much to chance but pardon me if I don't **** the bed until we know the score one way or the other.

Your user name is well chosen.

Excellent sensible post.

Sleep well:-)

whatawaster

Mr Alan wrote: »

LOL :rolleyes:

It's a fairly reasonable post.

PRAF

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

We've done nothing of consequence or value in the transfer market when it comes to trying to challenge for 4th. Nowhere near acceptable thus far imo.

Utd have signed nobody, same with Arsenal. Chelsea and Spurs have signed 1, maybe 2 players of note. Only City have spent big and early.

As it stands we haven't lost any ground on Spurs, Arsenal, or Everton IMO.

I'd like a couple of impressive signings myself but I think we're at that stage now where deals are either going to happen near the deadline or not at all.

5live

Kess73 wrote: »

Would have him back as well. His ball retention improved a lot during his time at Juve, and he looked good for PSG whenever I saw in him recent seasons prior to him being loaned out..

Would be decent cover as you said, and I always loved his high energy style of play.

I always think of the chant sung to Michael Jacksons 'Blame it on the Boogie'
He just cant
He just cant
He just cant control his feet.
:-D

PhiloCypher

PhiloCypher wrote: »

would I be happy no , on paper our four signings aren't enough to bridge the gap to fourth , but football isn't played on paper its played on the green stuff and as I said before the success of a transfer windows can't really be judged until the end of the season proper anyways(transfer ambition maybe). We could get 3 marquee signings and they could all fail to adapt or we could be stuck with what we have and they could all end up like Coutinho, in which case which window would be considered the greater success.

Obviously that's not ideal and leaves way too much to chance but pardon me if I don't **** the bed until we know the score one way or the other.

I'm glad we agree it would leave too much to chance. Glad to hear you don't **** your bed :-)

NukaCola

PhiloCypher wrote: »

would I be happy no , on paper our four signings aren't enough to bridge the gap to fourth

If we dont sign any more players, with money to spend according to the manager....and fail to challenge for fourth, then he's putting a lot of pressure on himself. Our squad is not strong enough and our first 11 is not strong enough, yet we are apparently sitting on money. There is no excuse not to bring in quality if we have money available. And if we don't have money available you really have to wonder why, but thats a different story.

That being said theres plenty of time in the window......so we have to wait and see, obviously its too early to get upset but its open for debate what will/could happen.

Kess73

PRAF wrote: »

Utd have signed nobody, same with Arsenal. Chelsea and Spurs have signed 1, maybe 2 players of note. Only City have spent big and early.

As it stands we haven't lost any ground on Spurs, Arsenal, or Everton IMO.

I'd like a couple of impressive signings myself but I think we're at that stage now where deals are either going to happen near the deadline or not at all.

As things stand right now I think it is fair to say that it looks like we have lost ground on Spurs. They already had a bloody strong squad and have added Paulinho and Chadli to it.

Chadli is a decent player (probably about on par with Aspas), but Paulinho is a good player and could see him, Sandro, and Dembele make for a very impressive midfield trio this coming season.

murpho999

Mr Alan wrote: »

LOL :rolleyes:

All well and good disagreeing with someone over stupid points but to dismiss someone's coherently expressed viewpoint with that smug smiley is rude and arrogant in my opinion.

Kess73

Kess73 wrote: »

As things stand right now I think it is fair to say that it looks like we have lost ground on Spurs. They already had a bloody strong squad and have added Paulinho and Chadli to it.

Chadli is a decent player (probably about on par with Aspas), but Paulinho is a good player and could see him, Sandro, and Dembele make for a very impressive midfield trio this coming season.

Kess, you're a poster who can see the wood from the trees. Would you agree current signings alone just isn't good enough.

audman

PhiloCypher wrote: »

would I be happy no , on paper our four signings aren't enough to bridge the gap to fourth , but football isn't played on paper its played on the green stuff and as I said before the success of a transfer windows can't really be judged until the end of the season proper anyways(transfer ambition maybe). We could get 3 marquee signings and they could all fail to adapt or we could be stuck with what we have and they could all end up like Coutinho, in which case which window would be considered the greater success.

Obviously that's not ideal and leaves way too much to chance but pardon me if I don't **** the bed until we know the score one way or the other.

It is indeed played on the green stuff and Liverpool need to start spending it if our team is to clinch that CL spot. You did mean money when you said 'green stuff' didn't you?

NukaCola

murpho999 wrote: »

All well and good disagreeing with some one over stupid points but to dismiss someone's coherently expressed viewpoint with that smug smiley is rude and arrogant in my opinion.

Thats been his posting style for quite some time now

whatawaster

rarnes1 wrote: »

Kess, you're a poster who can see the wood from the trees. Would you agree current signings alone just isn't good enough.

Everyone agrees!

There's still a month of the window left!

audman

rarnes1 wrote: »

Kess, you're a poster who can see the wood from the trees. Would you agree current signings alone just isn't good enough.

Signings are made on paper, trees are used to make paper, Kess can see the wood from the trees. So tell us Kess, who should we sign IF our current signings don't already do it for you?

whatawaster

whatawaster wrote: »

Everyone agrees!

There's still a month of the window left!

I said current, calm down! 4 weeks left but 2 weeks until season starts.

audman

whatawaster wrote: »

Everyone agrees!

There's still a month of the window left!

True that 'whatawaster'. However long the transfer of a player is going on behind closed doors, we learn of it officially in one day. 'There's a month of the window left'. Therefore, there are 30+ more days of hope.

Ní Róimh a tógadh sa lá.

PRAF

Kess73 wrote: »

As things stand right now I think it is fair to say that it looks like we have lost ground on Spurs. They already had a bloody strong squad and have added Paulinho and Chadli to it.

Chadli is a decent player (probably about on par with Aspas), but Paulinho is a good player and could see him, Sandro, and Dembele make for a very impressive midfield trio this coming season.

Who is Paulinho going to replace? Parker or Huddlestone?