Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/2014

mike65

Raif Severance wrote: »

Go look through the video Nuri has posted. Watch him in relation to Falcao, and then tell me where he Plays.

Can he drift wide during Games? Sure.

Can we Play him on Wings? We played Shelvey and Hendo there, so Yeah.

But I'd rather we get a Natural Wide Forward, than use the Band Aid approach.

We getting one of them too, Lorenzo Melgarejo.

Pedalstool

mike65 wrote: »

We getting one of them too, Lorenzo Melgarejo.

I thought he is a left back?

Quite a portfolio of South Americans we're developing.

Knex*

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Big fan like everyone seemingly is in this thread of Arda going back to his Galatasaray days and when we played them in the CL years ago now, he was brilliant in the game at Anfield if anyone remembers. Thing with Arda is his production rate in terms of goals and assists, this is what let's him down and I feel this is something Rodgers is probably taking note of. Of course there are things like secondary assists or however people refer to that stat which might look at him more favourably.

But it's clear to me it's clear we're looking for someone who will truly contribute. Mkh would have been this for Liverpool. Gut feeling is that if we do keep Suarez and sign Costa, we'll line up something like this..

Costa

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Suarez

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Sturridge

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Coutinho

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Would be heavily reliant on Lucas, and even Gerrard staying deep and allowing full backs to provide width then I think.

Could take some time to see it all click and look fluid as well as you have a number of players vying for the same space on the pitch.

Flip side, nightmare for opposition defenders and the movement in front of Coutinho and Gerrard should be excellent.

Grayditch

GTR63 wrote: »

€25m for Diego Costa(yet another overpriced la liga striker), 1 question if he ain't a replacement for Suarez & Sturridge is second choice I assume why are we buying him we need a winger and likely a centre back.

I think I've twigged why. Maybe the Suarez story about the press is true. So how to you get the press off Suarez's back? Sign someone ten times worse!

Genius.

Nuri Sahin

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

This guy Costa isnt exactly a prolific goalscorer
16 goals in 59 appearances for Athletico Madrid

True, but he's been thrown all over the place for Atleti to be fair to him. 7 goals and 12 assists last season. Again going back to his potential. I could see him being a 15 goal in the league a season player at least if he does really develop.

15 goals from where I think he'll play if Suarez stays, that being LW I meant.

Nuri Sahin

Melgarejo will be cover for both LB and LW IMO, if and when we sign him.

Nuri Sahin

Also, #Bony2K13 is on his hat trick.

Knex*

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Melgarejo will be cover for both LB and LW IMO, if and when we sign him.

Have you seen much of him, out of interest?

Especially interested in his loan when he played predominantly on the wing. Stat wise he seemed fairly productive.

Raif Severance

mike65 wrote: »

We getting one of them too, Lorenzo Melgarejo.

Sure.

But if we're going to spend 25M for Costa, why not throw that to Bayern or Barca and see if we can Pry either Shaqiri or Sanchez/Tello?

We get a Natural Wideman to provide Pace and Width. Not to mention, we keep Balance on the Side.

Suarez--Sturridge--Shaqiri/Tello/Sanchez

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Coutinho

messinkiapina

If this is our 'marquee signing' it's yet another sign of the times I'm afraid.

YouTookMyName

If Costa signs, he's replacing Suarez. It's that simple

Nuri Sahin

Knex. wrote: »

Have you seen much of him, out of interest?

Especially interested in his loan when he played predominantly on the wing. Stat wise he seemed fairly productive.

Nah, not really. Only watched Benfica in the EL a couple of times against Chelsea and Fenerbache(?), against Porto and half kept an eye on a betting stream in lesser games. Not someone I really noticed tbh.

Francie Barrett

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

True, but he's been thrown all over the place for Atleti to be fair to him. 7 goals and 12 assists last season. Again going back to his potential. I could see him being a 15 goal in the league a season player at least if he does really develop.

15 goals from where I think he'll play if Suarez stays, that being LW I meant.

People moaning about him not scoring goals show just how little they know about Atletico. Falcao was obviously their main striker last season, and Costa very often played second fiddle to him either as a deep-lying striker or being deployed directly on the wing.

Pedalstool

Raif Severance wrote: »

Sure.

But if we're going to spend 25M for Costa, why not throw that to Bayern or Barca and see if we can Pry either Shaqiri or Sanchez/Tello?

We get a Natural Wideman to provide Pace and Width. Not to mention, we keep Balance on the Side.

Suarez--Sturridge--Shaqiri/Tello/Sanchez

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Coutinho

I think Sterling will feature quite a lot for Liverpool this season. A lot of people saying he's been very impressive in training. He was in the friendlies he played.

It was suggested they dropped their interest in Atsu on the back of Sterlings attitude and performance in training.

Nuri Sahin

Raif Severance wrote: »

Sure.

But if we're going to spend 25M for Costa, why not throw that to Bayern or Barca and see if we can Pry either Shaqiri or Sanchez/Tello?

We get a Natural Wideman to provide Pace and Width. Not to mention, we keep Balance on the Side.

Suarez--Sturridge--Shaqiri/Tello/Sanchez

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Coutinho

Shaqiri is a no goer, at least for one more season.

opr

I've already backed Swansea for a top eight finish.



Opr

Nuri Sahin

Sid Lowe: "Diego Costa says that he never takes his work home with him. Which is probably a good thing.

If he did, the Atlético Madrid striker might walk through the door, goad the dog with a stick, surreptitiously elbow his wife out of the way on the stairs, shrug his shoulders innocently as she lay in a crumpled heap at the bottom and whisper insults to his children, look the other way and whistle when they burst into tears. He might stroll into the living room and dramatically collapse on the floor, roll around the rug holding his head and appeal for a penalty. He might even get it too."

Pedalstool

A few thoughts on Diego Costa (reportedly the subject of a £21M offer from Liverpool, according to @guardian_sport) coming up...

1) Physical and well-built second striker who prefers to roam/play wide (and deep). Very hard to mark due to "rough" playing style/agility

2) Extremely "intense"/all action in his playing style, won't have any problems holding his own in the PL

3) Rather "unpolished" and raw, not the most tactically disciplined. Needs space and license to roam in order to fully prosper

4) Consequently not a superb finisher or typical 20 goal a season man (though decent goal scoring record the past two seasons)

5) Prone to the odd "antics" on the pitch, not to everybody's taste but personally I do like him very much. Strong mentality, a fighter

6) As for the price: hard to judge in a highly inflated market. £20M seems to be minimum for a forward from a major league top club...

7) Soldado (Spurs) & Negredo (Man City) more "talented" & prolific, but Diego Costa's mentality/playing style may even be more suited to PL

Raif Severance

Pedalstool wrote: »

I think Sterling will feature quite a lot for Liverpool this season. A lot of people saying he's been very impressive in training. He was in the friendlies he played.

It was suggested they dropped their interest in Atsu on the back of Sterlings attitude and performance in training.

The same Logic could be applied to Costa as well. We already have Suarez, Aspas, Sturridge and Borini, for Strikers, so why would we need another one?

If we're going to play him on the Wings, same thing. We already got Options there.

The only Problem with our Options there, is that they are either Young (Ibe, Sterling) or Ineffective (Downing).

So in this Case, upgrading our Wing Options is actually the more Logical thing to do.

Raif Severance

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

Shaqiri is a no goer, at least for one more season.

According to Rummenigge, no Formal Offers have been made for Shaqiri.

We won't know if he's a "Non-goer", as you say, if we don't even try.

Nuri Sahin

AS English ‏@English_AS 1m
Atlético have refuted claims that they have received an offer from Liverpool for Diego Costa, saying he is not for sale.

ush

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

AS English ‏@English_AS 1m
Atlético have refuted claims that they have received an offer from Liverpool for Diego Costa, saying he is not for sale.

Grand so. 25 million plus 1.

Nuri Sahin

Raif Severance wrote: »

According to Rummenigge, no Formal Offers have been made for Shaqiri.

We won't know if he's a "Non-goer", as you say, if we don't even try.

Probably because clubs will be put off with what Bayern will want for him, not that I expect them to sell him as I said above. Pep is also known to be a big fan of his too.

klose

20 mill for a striker, theres yer ambition, has quickly become the most annoying word posted here recently.

kingshankly

Vicxas wrote: »

Shelvey just had a hail mary shot there...

And what has that to do with the Liverpool thread
He is a Swansea player now.

GTR63

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

AS English ‏@English_AS 1m
Atlético have refuted claims that they have received an offer from Liverpool for Diego Costa, saying he is not for sale.

Good.

opr

kingshankly wrote: »

And what has that to do with the Liverpool thread
He is a Swansea player now.

What? I'm quite happy as I'm sure others are to find out how he's getting on? Stop being so ****ing anal. This thread covers enough rubbish without being upset about updates on a former player from last season.

Opr

Reckon Costa would gobble up the goals in England.

smileyj1987

Nuri Sahin wrote: »

AS English ‏@English_AS 1m
Atlético have refuted claims that they have received an offer from Liverpool for Diego Costa, saying he is not for sale.

GTR63 wrote: »

Good.

I hope we get him , he seems to be very much like Suarez in regard to the fact he is a fighter on the pitch and we could do with a few of them . I can't understand anyone who doesn't want us to sign him .

Vicxas

kingshankly wrote: »

And what has that to do with the Liverpool thread
He is a Swansea player now.

It was an observation as he WAS a liverpool player.

kingshankly

opr wrote: »

What? I'm quite happy as I'm sure others are to find out how he's getting on? Stop being so ****ing anal. This thread covers enough rubbish without being upset about updates on a former player from last season.

Opr

It's constant if its not rafa it's alonso the amount of time lamenting about past players and managers is unreal

billy2012

Vicxas wrote: »

It was an observation as he WAS a liverpool player.

I wouldn't even bother explaining yourself to a ratty comment like that.

More of topic - Bony finished up with 2 goals and an assist.

Can't believe other teams were not interested in him, serious player for pennies considering what half decent strikers are going for nowadays.

Think he will really push Swansea on a level or two.

Strongbow10

if we did sign Costa and also managed to land Papadopoulous then we would have some real characters in the dressing room, can imagine a few tasty scraps

GTR63

smileyj1987 wrote: »

I hope we get him , he seems to be very much like Suarez in regard to the fact he is a fighter on the pitch and we could do with a few of them . I can't understand anyone who doesn't want us to sign him .

For €25m you want to be paying for more than fight and effort its ability that has Suarez at the price we have him.

opr

kingshankly wrote: »

It's constant if its not rafa it's alonso the amount of time lamenting about past players and managers is unreal

That's fair enough but those things are way in the past. This is a guy who left us only last season. He's a young, promising player with talent who I'm interested to see whether we made the right decision in letting him go. I'd be surprised and quite disappointed if we haven't worked out some deal with Swansea that we can buy him back for a certain fee if he goes onto develop into Liverpool player. I don't think it's anything like posts harping back to the past days of Benitez and Co.

Opr

smileyj1987

GTR63 wrote: »

For €25m you want to be paying for more than fight and effort its ability that has Suarez at the price we have him.

We need more players like that at the club right now . I hope we do sign him as it could mean less game time for Downing which will be a good thing for the club .

murpho999

messinkiapina wrote: »

If this is our 'marquee signing' it's yet another sign of the times I'm afraid.

Who said we were making a marquee signing and what defines it? Purely value?

Coutinho was not a marquee signing in January and look at his status now?

GTR63

smileyj1987 wrote: »

We need more players like that at the club right now . I hope we do sign him as it could mean less game time for Downing which will be a good thing for the club .

He's not a winger and i'd rather give Ibe and Sterling the chance than Downing. Hell i'd give Pascoe a runout ahead of Downing at this stage.

ush

smileyj1987 wrote: »

We need more players like that at the club right now . I hope we do sign him as it could mean less game time for Downing which will be a good thing for the club .

Downing's days are surely numbered at Liverpool. Thank föck.

murpho999

ush wrote: »

Downing's days are surely numbered at Liverpool. Thank föck.

I think he could be decent back up, squad game and all that.

smileyj1987

GTR63 wrote: »

He's not a winger and i'd rather give Ibe and Sterling the chance than Downing. Hell i'd give Pascoe a runout ahead of Downing at this stage.

It doesn't matter where he plays just aslong as Downing is turfed out the door .

Nuri Sahin posted this earlier and I reckon we could line up like this .

Costa

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Suarez

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Sturridge

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Coutinho

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So we will have three strikers who can roam and cause havoc with their movement .

billy2012

Id imagine if we were to sign Costa that he would be bought mainly as an AM.

The price seems quite high but Atletico always get big money for their players.

I personally would be all for us him signing. I like the idea of having a big lad in the AM role with Coutinho drifting in from the left.

ush

GTR63 wrote: »

He's not a winger and i'd rather give Ibe and Sterling the chance than Downing. Hell i'd give Pascoe a runout ahead of Downing at this stage.

He's a striker who can do a job across the front three. Downing can sometimes do a job on the right. Downing was bought under a more traditional set up with a tall striker to aim at. With a front three you can have widemen and strikers. Its all good.

murpho999

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTeVf0I_JmA

Here's a video in Spansh showing his antics against Real Madrid.

He seems to be trouble all right.

Throwing saliva in someone's face is worse than biting , or is it?

Nuri Sahin

GTR63 wrote: »

He's not a winger and i'd rather give Ibe and Sterling the chance than Downing. Hell i'd give Pascoe a runout ahead of Downing at this stage.

He's not a winger, you're right. He's a wing forward or simply put, a forward. :P

Nuri Sahin

murpho999 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTeVf0I_JmA

Here's a video in Spansh showing his antics against Real Madrid.

He seems to be trouble all right.

Throwing saliva in someone's face is worse than biting , or is it?

Pfft, it's a sign of endearment. Man up

ush

murpho999 wrote: »

Throwing saliva in someone's face is worse than biting , or is it?

Was it saliva? I was hoping it was snot!

googled eyes

BREAKING NEWS! Spurs in last minute bid for Diego Costa. They have never heard if him but if lfc want him then he must be good mustn't he?

Robbed from twitter

murpho999

ush wrote: »

Was it saliva? I was hoping it was snot!

Really? That's not nice

5starpool

It's a display of endearment in Brazil.