DGW confirmed for week 1

donglen

MagicIRL wrote: »

This is how I'm lining up for the DGW. Personally, with Villa playing both Arsenal and Chelsea in their DGW, I don't think any player, even Benteke, is worth a punt. When we consider how good the Arsenal defence was last season, and just how dominating the Chelsea midfield is, I don't think Villa stand a chance.

As for Chelsea, Hazard is a must. With the Spain international calling away Mata and others, Hazard is ideal. Up front, I'm going with Lukaku. After his season last year, and the sensational performance he gave in the final game against United, I think José would be mad not to start him.

And so I'm lining up like this.

Mignolet (LIV - 5.5m)

Coleman (EVE - 5.0m) - Meresacker (ARS - 5.5m) - Nastasic (CITY - 5.5m) - Connolly (CAR - 4.5m)

Hazard (CHEL - 9.5m CPT) - Bale (SPURS - 12m VCPT) - Walcott (ARS - 9.5m)

Anelka (WBA - 5.5m) - Negredo (CITY - 9.5m) - Lukaku (CHEL - 8m)

Now, the benefit of this is that it doesn't really need a big restructure after the DGW, meaning you can keep your wildcard. Lukaku can even be dropped in GW2 for RVW (NOR - 7m) if he fails to impress in his opening games or simply when Chelsea have a week off in GW3.

Will Anelka start though? I did have him in but talke myself out of it since. Think they'll play a lone striker, probably Long?

Devia

Villa can score against anyone so wouldn't rule them out completely. Think I'm going with Weimann with a view to changing him to RVW or Kone after the DGW. Should get at least 4 points out of him anyway. Have Lukaku in at the moment as well but will have to see about him closer to the deadline.

MagicIRL

donglen wrote: »

Will Anelka start though? I did have him in but talke myself out of it since. Think they'll play a lone striker, probably Long?

He's been playing and scoring in preseason. I don't see how you can buy a proven goalscorer and not start him to be fair!

If you're unsure though, Cornelius from Cardiff is also 5.5m

sword1

If my team has 3 chelsea players first week and i still have 2 come week 3 ,will they have lost a lot of value,my question is will the high amount of chelsea players bought before the season mean that they will actually be relatively cheaper for the rest of the season

Hogey007

sword1 wrote: »

If my team has 3 chelsea players first week and i still have 2 come week 3 ,will they have lost a lot of value,my question is will the high amount of chelsea players bought before the season mean that they will actually be relatively cheaper for the rest of the season

yes they will likely have lost value by week 3 as price changes come about by a certain percentage of owners selling them, the big chelsea players like hazard will have huge ownership going into the first gw and then will be offloaded by many going into gw 2 and even more going into gw 3.

ths website will tell you in advance of any rises or falls

http://www.fiso.co.uk/crackthecode.php

manual_man

MagicIRL wrote: »

He's been playing and scoring in preseason. I don't see how you can buy a proven goalscorer and not start him to be fair!

If you're unsure though, Cornelius from Cardiff is also 5.5m

Fair enough but that's pre season, and he' 34. Rodriguez the budget choice for me, 6.0m but i think he'll do very well

MagicIRL

manual_man wrote: »

Fair enough but that's pre season, and he' 34. Rodriguez the budget choice for me, 6.0m but i think he'll do very well

I think he could be a nice bench option, even at 34. He will score, and has the experience of scoring in the PL to back that up. Cornelius cost Cardfiff 8m but is a big risk. You also have the likes of Weimann at 6m for Villa, who scored 7/4 in his first season.

roryc

manual_man wrote: »

wish there was no dgw gw1 tbh, not sure what to do, but looking forward to seeing people fall flat on their ass in the weeks after, after stocking up on too many dgw players

I'm looking at starting with Cech in goal, and immediately swapping him out for Hart after GW1. It's a risk, and means my hands are tied for my first transfer of the year (which is high risk) but I expect Cech to get 9+ points. Two clean sheets against 2 of the worst teams in the league would not be unlikely so we could see Cech pick up 12-15 points. My sub keeper will likely be a £4m non starter (until I wildcard) so will need to be careful.

I don't think I'll have a problem benching Hazard and Terry for GW3 but it totally depends on how the rest of my team are shaping up - RVP might go nuts against Swansea in GW1 and change everything.

The other option is Lukaku. If he looks like he'll start both games I'll have to look at bringing him in over RVW.

bodking

sword1 wrote: »

If my team has 3 chelsea players first week and i still have 2 come week 3 ,will they have lost a lot of value,my question is will the high amount of chelsea players bought before the season mean that they will actually be relatively cheaper for the rest of the season

If you pick 3 chelsea player for GW1 as i have make sure you have players on your bench that can take the slack come GW2/3 . My plan is Cech - Hart GW1
Bench Hazard for Koren and Lukaku - Jelavic GW2 and then see what my options are from there . Just have a plan .

bodking

bodking wrote: »

If you pick 3 chelsea player for GW1 as i have make sure you have players on your bench that can take the slack come GW2/3 . My plan is Cech - Hart GW1
Bench Hazard for Koren and Lukaku - Jelavic GW2 and then see what my options are from there . Just have a plan .

Also have benched players that have a good chance of playing if the chelsea players that you have picked get rotated

qwabercd

roryc wrote: »

I'm looking at starting with Cech in goal, and immediately swapping him out for Hart after GW1. It's a risk, and means my hands are tied for my first transfer of the year (which is high risk) but I expect Cech to get 9+ points. Two clean sheets against 2 of the worst teams in the league would not be unlikely so we could see Cech pick up 12-15 points. My sub keeper will likely be a £4m non starter (until I wildcard) so will need to be careful.

I don't think I'll have a problem benching Hazard and Terry for GW3 but it totally depends on how the rest of my team are shaping up - RVP might go nuts against Swansea in GW1 and change everything.

The other option is Lukaku. If he looks like he'll start both games I'll have to look at bringing him in over RVW.

It will be impossible to know (barring injuries) before gw1 whether lukaku will start both games. Can't predict it.

manual_man

roryc wrote: »

I'm looking at starting with Cech in goal, and immediately swapping him out for Hart after GW1. It's a risk, and means my hands are tied for my first transfer of the year (which is high risk) but I expect Cech to get 9+ points. Two clean sheets against 2 of the worst teams in the league would not be unlikely so we could see Cech pick up 12-15 points. My sub keeper will likely be a £4m non starter (until I wildcard) so will need to be careful.

I don't think I'll have a problem benching Hazard and Terry for GW3 but it totally depends on how the rest of my team are shaping up - RVP might go nuts against Swansea in GW1 and change everything.

The other option is Lukaku. If he looks like he'll start both games I'll have to look at bringing him in over RVW.

exactly what i'm doing re. Cech/Hart. Have a 4m goalie (Davis, S'hampton) too but i'm not worried about that Hart practically never misses a game, and it means no mulling over which keeper to pick (and getting pis*ed off when you get it wrong) each week. plus City have been the best in defense for quite a while now anyway. Lukaku is my other, will probably take the risk and captain him, i don't have Hazard but at the same time i wouldn't be so sure he's nailed on to start BOTH games, the likelihood of rotation has already been mentioned and with the addition of Schurrle (and possibly Rooney), Chelsea have an array of options in the more forward positions. In any case i think we can say Cech is the only pretty-much nailed on starter for both games

Mr.Prodston

I think I'll only have a max of 2 Chelsea players maybe even just Hazard as while people may have plans to offload them after GW1 and GW2 their prices will start plummeting straight after GW1 and if you have 2 you may be forced to take a hit if you don't want to lose .1 or even .2.

If Lukaku is quiet he could drop faster than the force of gravity considering he's at 22% ownership even now. A hit after the 1st week isn't exactly where anyone would want to be but that .1 price difference could scupper everyone's plans unless you want to hold tight and keep the player for the long haul.

bodking

Im toying with the idea of captaining Cech over Hazard

My reasons are ;

Cech will more than likely play both matches where as Hazard may be rotated .
There is a real good chance of 2 CS in the DGW where as Hazard isnt garenteed to score or assist .
So if the above happens the points would work out as at butt basic ;

Cech - For playing 60 minutes or more ( 2P ) , For a clean sheet by a goalkeeper or defender ( 4P ) = 6P x 2 x 2 = 24P
Hazard - For playing 60 minutes or more ( 2P ) , For a clean sheet by a midfielder ( 1P ) = 3P x 2 = 6P

Even if Hazard scores in 1 match he would still only get 16P

So what do you think ??

Who_8_Paul?

bodking wrote: »

Im toying with the idea of captaining Cech over Hazard

My reasons are ;

Cech will more than likely play both matches where as Hazard may be rotated .
There is a real good chance of 2 CS in the DGW where as Hazard isnt garenteed to score or assist .
So if the above happens the points would work out as at butt basic ;

Cech - For playing 60 minutes or more ( 2P ) , For a clean sheet by a goalkeeper or defender ( 4P ) = 6P x 2 x 2 = 24P
Hazard - For playing 60 minutes or more ( 2P ) , For a clean sheet by a midfielder ( 1P ) = 3P x 2 = 6P

Even if Hazard scores in 1 match he would still only get 16P

So what do you think ??

2 clean sheets might happen but I never rely on clean sheets, always go with the attacking player against weaker opposition; 8 times out of 10 it will work out better

roryc

Don't captain a goalkeeper.

Despite Chelsea's fixtures it's unlikely he will keep two clean sheets. Chelsea could quite easily win 2-1, 3-1 meaning Cech gets a pitiful 4 points.

If Hazard scores he will likely get Bonus Points, a key factor that you didn't include as it could equate to an extra 6 points per match. On top of this, Hazard's potential is a lot higher than Cech.

Always captain attacking players (I include Baines in this).

OneColdHand

bodking wrote: »

Cech - For playing 60 minutes or more ( 2P ) , For a clean sheet by a goalkeeper or defender ( 4P ) = 6P x 2 x 2 = 24P
Hazard - For playing 60 minutes or more ( 2P ) , For a clean sheet by a midfielder ( 1P ) = 3P x 2 = 6P

Even if Hazard scores in 1 match he would still only get 16P

But you're not looking at that objectively. You are taking Cech's best possible score, and Hazard worst probable score, and making a decision on that. You need to take the best case scenario for both players, and the worst case for both, and make a decision on that.

And even if Hazard only scores 1 goal, he's still unlikely to end up with only 16pts.
- 4pts for a goal
- 2 for playing more than 60 mins
- likely to get at least 2 BPs if he scores, good chance of a clean sheet bonus in at least 1 game (or, a good chance of 2, going on your assessment of Cech!)
- Lets assume he doesn't start the 2nd game and only make a cameo for 1pt.

That's still 10x2=20, and that's assuming he does nothing in the 2nd game.

His potential is way above what Cech's is, so I'll be captaining him.

bodking

OneColdHand wrote: »

But you're not looking at that objectively. You are taking Cech's best possible score, and Hazard worst probable score, and making a decision on that. You need to take the best case scenario for both players, and the worst case for both, and make a decision on that.

And even if Hazard only scores 1 goal, he's still unlikely to end up with only 16pts.
- 4pts for a goal
- 2 for playing more than 60 mins
- likely to get at least 2 BPs if he scores, good chance of a clean sheet bonus in at least 1 game (or, a good chance of 2, going on your assessment of Cech!)
- Lets assume he doesn't start the 2nd game and only make a cameo for 1pt.

That's still 10x2=20, and that's assuming he does nothing in the 2nd game.

His potential is way above what Cech's is, so I'll be captaining him.

I like to put things out there , alternatives to the norm . im wondering has anyone captain a goalie ??

I see the logic thanks all

Mr.Prodston

I had a dream last night and it was the Villa-Chelsea game and Villa went 3-0 up by half-time. Both Baker and Guzan got assists via the long ball which Gabby chased onto and slotted away.

Owen Hargreaves and Gareth Barry were in midfield for Villa too so lets take it with a pinch of salt :pac:

moreau

manual_man wrote: »

exactly what i'm doing re. Cech/Hart. Have a 4m goalie (Davis, S'hampton) too but i'm not worried about that Hart practically never misses a game, and it means no mulling over which keeper to pick (and getting pis*ed off when you get it wrong) each week.

Totally! I plan on doing same

Hogey007

i briefly considered torres.....ahhhh log out!!! log out!! log out!!!!!!

thunderdog

Mr.Prodston wrote: »

I had a dream last night and it was the Villa-Chelsea game and Villa went 3-0 up by half-time. Both Baker and Guzan got assists via the long ball which Gabby chased onto and slotted away.

Owen Hargreaves and Gareth Barry were in midfield for Villa too so lets take it with a pinch of salt :pac:

Did Big Mickey Turner feature in your dream by any chance?

Iused2likebusts

this is how Id rank the top 10 dgw picks
1 hazard - obvious captain choice will also be on penos if lampard isn't on the pitch.
2 cech - guaranteed 2 games and good chance of clean sheets.
3 ramires- should play both games(no midweek international) is only 6.5 and may play 1 of the games in an advanced role.
4 benteke- will play both games. Tough fixtures but he can score against anyone.
5 A cole- most likely defender to play 2 games capable of assists.
6 J terry- slightly less likely to play the two games goal threat.
7 Oscar- can see him getting 120 mins plus in an advanced position.
8 lukaku- should start 1 game off chance of two.
9 Mata- would have been no.1 but arrived back late from pre season has barely featured and has missed chelseas last 2 games with injury.
10 Torres- he was quite a good player 4 years ago :pac:

Tony_Montana

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

this is how Id rank the top 10 dgw picks
1 hazard - obvious captain choice will also be on penos if lampard isn't on the pitch.
2 cech - guaranteed 2 games and good chance of clean sheets.
3 ramires- should play both games(no midweek international) is only 6.5 and may play 1 of the games in an advanced role.
4 benteke- will play both games. Tough fixtures but he can score against anyone.
5 A cole- most likely defender to play 2 games capable of assists.
6 J terry- slightly less likely to play the two games goal threat.
7 Oscar- can see him getting 120 mins plus in an advanced position.
8 lukaku- should start 1 game off chance of two.
9 Mata- would have been no.1 but arrived back late from pre season has barely featured and has missed chelseas last 2 games with injury.
10 Torres- he was quite a good player 4 years ago :pac:

Why do you think ramires will play both games?

Iused2likebusts

Tony_Montana wrote: »

Why do you think ramires will play both games?

No international game unlike most of the squad. Flexible can play as a deep lying midfielder, box to box midfielder or out wide. Looks to be one of the fitter members of the squad( could be wrong personal opinion). Is usually a regular no matter who is in charge.
Could be totally wrong mourinho may not rate him, but at 6.5 he is the same price more or less as cech and the defenders. Has low ownership so wont drop in price for me as i'll hold him till gw 4 wildcard. He isn't an exciting dgw pick by any stretch of the imagination but he suits my needs and I'll be aiming for 8 pts from him.