"Ladies Of The Night" - on Upper William Street *mod warning posts 102 +105*

panda100

It is strange that there is so much street prostitution in Limerick. I lived in Dublin and Cork, and never saw any street prostitution. It seems to have all moved onto those disgusting escort websites. Limerick, on the other hand, has blatant street prostitution. I wonder why? Serious question.

kilburn

It has nothing to do with the recession anyway, 90% of them are foreigners trafficked while the other 10% are just irish junkies looking for cash for their next fix.

panda100

kilburn wrote: »

It has nothing to do with the recession anyway, 90% of them are foreigners trafficked while the other 10% are just irish junkies looking for cash for their next fix.

There are a lot of young looking foreign girls alright. It is so sad

Silentcorner

I find it odd that it is so blatant, where are the foot patrols?

I was in Galway recently and I have to say I was impressed with the show of force from the Gardai, I was having a pint outside a bar, in the space of a half hour about 12 gardai walked past me in twos and threes, I couldn't help but think why we don't see the same in Limerick, or Cork and Dublin for that matter, imagine how the improvement on the boardwalk in Dublin with a similar garda presence...that kind of Garda presence nips a lot of activity in the bud, including on street prostitution.

audidiesel

Silentcorner wrote: »

I find it odd that it is so blatant, where are the foot patrols?

I was in Galway recently and I have to say I was impressed with the show of force from the Gardai, I was having a pint outside a bar, in the space of a half hour about 12 gardai walked past me in twos and threes, I couldn't help but think why we don't see the same in Limerick, or Cork and Dublin for that matter, imagine how the improvement on the boardwalk in Dublin with a similar garda presence...that kind of Garda presence nips a lot of activity in the bud, including on street prostitution.

no recruitment for the past few years and lots of retirements may be a factor.

Kess73

audidiesel wrote: »

no recruitment for the past few years and lots of retirements may be a factor.

Limerick city was listed in 2012 as having the highest number of active gardai of any of the Irish cities outside of Dublin.

So doubt if recruitment/retirement could be an excuse.


Galway in particular always has a lot of foot patrols in the city centre and they are very visible day and night. Cork city also has a good number of city centre footpatrols every day.

Limerick city centre you could not see a garda on foot for long spells of any given day if you sat at a coffee shop watching the world go by.

audidiesel

Kess73 wrote: »

Limerick city was listed in 2012 as having the highest number of active gardai of any of the Irish cities outside of Dublin.

So doubt if recruitment/retirement could be an excuse.


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Limerick city centre you could not see a garda on foot for long spells of any given day if you sat at a coffee shop watching the world go by.

Well based on the experience of actually being one, between manning the counter, prisoners, communications room. It's lucky to have two cars out there maybe three if really lucky.

Trust me when I say there's not really the manpower to do many city beats. There is community policing I suppose but they all hide in offices ignoring radios.

Besides which it is a known problem but under irish law the offence is solicitation. Standing on the street while obvious isn't illegal until they pick up a punter.

Also look at the storm that happened last time this was dealt with...

brownej

audidiesel wrote: »

Well based on the experience of actually being one, between manning the counter, prisoners, communications room. It's lucky to have two cars out there maybe three if really lucky.

Trust me when I say there's not really the manpower to do many city beats. There is community policing I suppose but they all hide in offices ignoring radios.

Besides which it is a known problem but under irish law the offence is solicitation. Standing on the street while obvious isn't illegal until they pick up a punter.

Also look at the storm that happened last time this was dealt with...

I used to live on Catherine street a couple of years ago. I lived there for about 5 years and the prostitution problem just got so bad I had to leave. It was constant. I couldn't get in and out my front door without being harassed.
Complaining to the guards is an absolute waste of your time and sanity. I would call henry street to complain and the standard response would be that they would send a car around. It usually took a few hours for the car to go around the block but they wouldn't stop or make any attempt to move the prostitutes on. The patrol was worse than useless.
Calling into the station is also a fruitless endeavour.The guard behind the desk would mutter something about the community guard would contact me. How this was supposed to happen without the guard behind the desk taking any details is beyond me. On the occasions when my details were taken I was never contacted by the community guard.
Worse than useless.
If you live on a street with prostitution in Limerick the solution is either to put up with it or move.

Kess73

audidiesel wrote: »

Well based on the experience of actually being one, between manning the counter, prisoners, communications room. It's lucky to have two cars out there maybe three if really lucky.

Trust me when I say there's not really the manpower to do many city beats. There is community policing I suppose but they all hide in offices ignoring radios.

Besides which it is a known problem but under irish law the offence is solicitation. Standing on the street while obvious isn't illegal until they pick up a punter.

Also look at the storm that happened last time this was dealt with...

So what is the point of those that do that? Sounds like a waste of resources to have X number that do nothing save collect a wage.

Would love to know what they do differently in Cork and Galway that allows such a visible street presence. Maybe they are better organised in relation to the amount of time being tied up in administrative duties or similar?

I am in Cork, and Galway on a weekly basis to visit branches of my business and as such get to see the differences in garda presence in the centre of those cities compared to the centre of Limerick on a weekly basis.

Cityslicker1

Kess73 wrote: »

So what is the point of those that do that? Sounds like a waste of resources to have X number that do nothing save collect a wage.

Would love to know what they do differently in Cork and Galway that allows such a visible street presence. Maybe they are better organised in relation to the amount of time being tied up in administrative duties or similar?

I am in Cork, and Galway on a weekly basis to visit branches of my business and as such get to see the differences in garda presence in the centre of those cities compared to the centre of Limerick on a weekly basis.

Do you think maybe the fact that limerick city centre is dead after 6pm could be part of the reason?Both Galway and Cork are much more energetic and vibrant in the evenings as much as they are during the day. Empty lifeless streets make it easier for this practice to occur than when there's a bit of activity going on with people watching etc. Maybe I'm wrong but it's really eerie being in the city centre after 6pm and now to throw the obvious prostitutes into the mix makes it a complete shambles of a place...what are the people of Limerick doing in the evenings compared to Cork and Galway. Wouldn't it be great to drive through Limerick city centre at 8/9 in the evenings and see some sort of human life with people sitting outside cafes and pubs etc...no what you see is hookers on nearly every street..Limerick living up to it's reputation as usual!!

Silentcorner

Cityslicker1 wrote: »

Do you think maybe the fact that limerick city centre is dead after 6pm could be part of the reason?Both Galway and Cork are much more energetic and vibrant in the evenings as much as they are during the day. Empty lifeless streets make it easier for this practice to occur than when there's a bit of activity going on with people watching etc. Maybe I'm wrong but it's really eerie being in the city centre after 6pm and now to throw the obvious prostitutes into the mix makes it a complete shambles of a place...what are the people of Limerick doing in the evenings compared to Cork and Galway. Wouldn't it be great to drive through Limerick city centre at 8/9 in the evenings and see some sort of human life with people sitting outside cafes and pubs etc...no what you see is hookers on nearly every street..Limerick living up to it's reputation as usual!!

I think lately it has picked up, there are a lot more tourists in the city these days, I do spend quite a bit of time in the city centre after 6pm and while it is not as busy as other areas of the country (towns that would draw more tourists) there has been an improvement, it is not are eerie as you make it out (still room for improvement), there aren't as many prostitutes as you are making out either, it is confined to 1 or 2 streets hardly "nearly every street"...

I would be interested to hear why there are is a vast difference in garda presence on the streets of limerick and other cities, even when the city is very busy as it can be at weekends you simply don't see gardai about. As I said already, a visible garda presence nips a lot of hassle/prostitution in the bud...there is a very good reason Galway has a heavy garda presence...this could be a very valid reason why street prostitutes operate here as opposed to other more policed areas.

You would think a city with our reputation as you put it would have more gardai on the street...

seachto7

Is o curry st no more? Pretty blatant hookers outside the religious bookshop on william st too. Brothel overhead ironically.

What is the avg cost of a dart these days?

Rightwing

Silentcorner wrote: »

I think lately it has picked up, there are a lot more tourists in the city these days, I do spend quite a bit of time in the city centre after 6pm and while it is not as busy as other areas of the country (towns that would draw more tourists) there has been an improvement, it is not are eerie as you make it out (still room for improvement), there aren't as many prostitutes as you are making out either, it is confined to 1 or 2 streets hardly "nearly every street"...

I would be interested to hear why there are is a vast difference in garda presence on the streets of limerick and other cities, even when the city is very busy as it can be at weekends you simply don't see gardai about. As I said already, a visible garda presence nips a lot of hassle/prostitution in the bud...there is a very good reason Galway has a heavy garda presence...this could be a very valid reason why street prostitutes operate here as opposed to other more policed areas.

You would think a city with our reputation as you put it would have more gardai on the street...

There isn't.

You are far more likely to encounter a garda checking for road tax than see one anywhere else.

Wilbert13

seachto7 wrote: »

Is o curry st no more?

They're still at it on the Dock Road end, there was a vicious fight between 3 ladies over "turf" a few months ago

Richard Dower

150 quid for a quickie....no thanks love!

testicle

Richard Dower wrote: »

150 quid for a quickie....no thanks love!

Did you enquire?

RED PASSION

panda100 wrote: »

It is strange that there is so much street prostitution in Limerick. I lived in Dublin and Cork, and never saw any street prostitution. It seems to have all moved onto those disgusting escort websites. Limerick, on the other hand, has blatant street prostitution. I wonder why? Serious question.

maybe they must take to the streets because Limerick has a poor internet connection ....







... seriously street prostitution may get more clients than online.

finbarrk

Richard Dower wrote: »

150 quid for a quickie....no thanks love!

Doubt it.

Richard Dower

They were hanging out the top window the other night....hollering at passer-bys. Tis gas the cops arent shuttong them down, surely the landlord of the gaff cant be that clueless?

Richard Dower

finbarrk wrote: »

Doubt it.

What?....too low or too high?

Heard a gas story, apparently there were traveller women pelting the front door and windows with eggs a few weeks back as one of their clan/men/husbands were inside doing the do and the wimmim caught wind........

Traveled into Limerick to roar and batter the gaff with eggs

grenache

I worked in the Roches St/Catherine St area for a few years until 2011. The girls used to come into the shop, in their "working attire", to buy cigarettes. They would also leaving 'calling cards' on the counter, which we found funny if not a little bizarre

irishproduce

I seen this thread a couple of times but had to comment tonight. Came out of the gym by dominos, walked around the corner up that steep hill and was on the phone to the wife and one of the girls was there and she said something like "how are you, do you like?..." So i went around the corner, got in the car and drove off. By now though she had come to the top of the hill and as I passed, she winked and blew me a kiss.
Talk about a go getter and not waiting for business to fall into her lap.
Never happened to me before and I thought it was gas!

Richard Dower

irishproduce wrote: »

Talk about a go getter and not waiting for business to fall into her lap.

I see what you did there......

Lady Chatterton

Newstalk Breakfast are discussing this issue now.

fi314

Very interesting discussion on Newstalk! One of my colleagues is involved in an initiative targeting commercial sex workers in Limerick and in her experienced many of the women have been trafficked. The web-site below was given out on the show and may be of interest to people

http://www.turnofftheredlight.ie/

jmch81

Didn't hear the radio show, is it to do with the signs? If so Bock the Robber had some thing on this yesterday:

http://bocktherobber.com/2013/08/park-and-ride/

The signs are very creative and well thought out.

fi314

Yes, the discussion was triggered by the signs but it developed into a broader conversation on prostitution.

I haven’t come across bock the robber- Thanks for sharing!

Mc Love

For once Bock actually speaks some sense!

riverrocked

Driving around that area is intimidating enough, I couldn't imagine having to live there and walk past these ladies every night.

Richard Dower

i lived there from 2000-2003.....twas quite different back then.