Nexus 7 (2013)

Tigerandahalf

T-Bird wrote: »

There has been plenty of posts. Best thing is probably go back and read them, as you will learn from others experiences.

There are no other posts about it on this thread. Going back a page takes you back to 6 months ago.
Appreciate any help.

T-Bird

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

There are no other posts about it on this thread. Going back a page takes you back to 6 months ago.
Appreciate any help.

Sorry, seen so many, thought they were everywhere. Factory reset in settings menu might do trick. Warning, this deletes everything. Photos can be synched with Google, apps should start to reinstall again once you signed into Google play. However all data will be lost.

This works for some and not others I think it depends on the apps your using. Facebook app causes serious lag on nexus 7 lollipop. if you have it try uninstalling it.

Personally I think the device is a bit old to run lollipop. I got fed up with it and installed CM10 jellybean. Much happier with it now.

corkie

Here is a tip for 2012 Nexus 7 (might also work on 2013) from XDA!

Got Annoying Lag on Lollipop? Here's a tip that can save your Nexus 7!

If you go to Settings>Developer Options, tap "Enable View Attribute Inspection", then boot into recovery and clear cache, your Nexus 7 will run like new, no lag, no freezing.

If you need help doing this, there are steps below for you to look at.

*HOW TO GET DEV OPTIONS IF YOU DON'T SEE IT*
-Go to Settings>About tablet.
-Find the build number.
-Mash it until a message telling you that you are a developer appears.
-You're done!

*HOW TO GET INTO RECOVERY AND CLEAR CACHE*
Do this after you enable "View Attribute Inspection".
-Power off your Nexus
-Press the power and volume down buttons until you see a screen with an Android guy with an open chest and some device info and options.
-To scroll through the options, use the volume up or down buttons to show an option, and use the power button to select it. The option we are looking for is "Recovery".
-Once you select it, the Google screen will appear and after a couple seconds, an Android guy with his chest open and the words "No command" appear.
-Don't freak out now! Now press the power and the volume up buttons and count to 3. After you count to 3, let go of the buttons, and a menu will appear. And again, to scroll through the options, use the volume up or down buttons to show an option, and use the power button to select it. Now highlight "Clear cache", and select it. The Nexus will do its magic, and when it's done, highlight "Reboot to system" and you will reboot to Lollipop.

Also do the following from comments in that thread!

Developer Options and switched "Window animation scale", "Transition animation scale" and "Animator duration scale" all to "Animation off" and "Background process limit" to "At most, 3 processes".

Tigerandahalf

I have read that stuff online but it sounds dodgy to me. You shouldn't have to do that. It reminds me of the tech support on lenovo forums where they tell you to do 10 different things knowing full well that they have messed up.
This seems to be a major fail on google's part. Looking online there are endless amounts of people with the same issue. Wish I could just row back on the update. So glad I did not download the update on my gs5.

corkie

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Wish I could just row back on the update. So glad I did not download the update on my gs5.

You do have the option of wiping your device and flashing a prior factory image (maybe Kitkat 4.4.4 (KTU84P))??

There is a 5.0.2 for my xperia z1 rolling out at present, don't know if I will update.

blobbie

T-Bird wrote: »

Personally I think the device is a bit old to run lollipop. I got fed up with it and installed CM10 jellybean. Much happier with it now.

Any thoughts on CM12 - a bridge too far ??

I put CM12.1 on my Nexus4 and cut back on the Apps and it is like a new phone so thinking of trying the same on N7

T-Bird

corkie wrote: »

Here is a tip for 2012 Nexus 7 (might also work on 2013) from XDA!

Got Annoying Lag on Lollipop? Here's a tip that can save your Nexus 7!





Also do the following from comments in that thread!

There's a few tips alright, tried them and no joy.

Some have problems and some don't. That's why I'm thinking it might be app compatibility related.

T-Bird

blobbie wrote: »

Any thoughts on CM12 - a bridge too far ??

I put CM12.1 on my Nexus4 and cut back on the Apps and it is like a new phone so thinking of trying the same on N7

Probably, last time I tried putting a custom based lollipop was about 3 months ago. Things have probably got a lot better since then.

Apart from aesthetics I'm not finding much of a difference with CM10. It's actually the last stable rom as well..

D'Peoples Voice

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

This seems to be a major fail on google's part. Looking online there are endless amounts of people with the same issue. Wish I could just row back on the update. So glad I did not download the update on my gs5.

I have slowly come around to your way of thinking!
Lollipop was too ambitious with the following:

- Move from Dalvik to Android RunTime(ART) - so instead of apps being compiled Just-in-Time they are pre-compiled at installation. This causes apps that were specifically geared towards Dalvik to run correctly on ART

- A unified webview - with Kitkat the manufacturer's stock browser was built on a version of Chromium at a point in time, and not updated until manufacturer issued an android update. It differed across manufacturers. Now with lollipop, all android phones have the same webview that is updated each 6 weeks when Chromium and Chrome are updated

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Decouple apps - moving parts of Android from the core OS out to the Play Store or Google Play Services - so that many apps can now be updated regularly in Play store instead of having to wait for an android update

- Introduction of new APIs - the cleaning up of code that had previously allowed apps to use unofficial APIs - causing problems for these apps

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Project volta - a new "JobScheduler" API that allows the OS to batch up unimportant app requests like database cleanup and log uploading - causing problems for apps that would consume a lot of RAM memory and were shut down unexpectedly - not sure if this applies to Facebook - although most people I know now use that Tinfoil for Facebook app unless they play games on Facebook

- Introduction of API for android wear and android auto, merging of this code along with existing code can cause unexpected problems when doing this.

- Material design of menus and apps.

Google should maybe have offered people the last option for those that are technically inept. Not everyone needs to be at the cutting edge. In Linux, Debian do this well, with Debian Stable and Debian Testing. As the names suggest, Stable is for those that are happy with rock-solid tried and tested performance rather than new features. Testing is for those that want new features and are willing to accept that bugs will be found and fixed.

Also Google's communication to users has been nothing short of disrespectful. Though I can maybe understand that it is up to manufacturers to pass on any communication - but Google needs to set the tone for others.

T-Bird

I thunk it's a bit ironic the way thing's have gone. Latest version of Android needs to run on high spec devices in order to run smoothly. While the latest version of Windows will run at lightning speed on an old 4 years old or more pc.

D'Peoples Voice

T-Bird wrote: »

I thunk it's a bit ironic the way thing's have gone. Latest version of Android needs to run on high spec devices in order to run smoothly. While the latest version of Windows will run at lightning speed on an old 4 years old or more pc.

The latest version of Android does run on Android One devices - hardly high-spec.
I just don't think you can mess with an OS like Google has done AND easily install it over the previous version and expect third party software to continue work without incredible amounts of testing. They don't have Microsoft's years of experience to learn about how to do this correctly. We shall see in a few months how Microsoft will make it possible to seemlessly install Windows 10 over Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1

My windows 7 used to fly in the early few days before the third-party anti-virus and encryption programs were installed. Ever since then, it lags greatly. I expect no different with Windows 10.

T-Bird

D'Peoples Voice wrote: »

The latest version of Android does run on Android One devices - hardly high-spec.
I just don't think you can mess with an OS like Google has done AND easily install it over the previous version and expect third party software to continue work without incredible amounts of testing. They don't have Microsoft's years of experience to learn about how to do this correctly. We shall see in a few months how Microsoft will make it possible to seemlessly install Windows 10 over Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1

My windows 7 used to fly in the early few days before the third-party anti-virus and encryption programs were installed. Ever since then, it lags greatly. I expect no different with Windows 10.

? windows 7 is fairly old now and was the last of its type. 8.1 is a different story. I have been running 2 tablets since jan and 1 mini pc (size of a cd case) at home as a replacement for the pcs. Connected to screens via hdmi and to keyboard and mice via mini usb.

They still boot up in less 5 seconds and never lag. 2 are 33gb and the other is 64g which means that you can't run big programs on them. Apart from that they are perfect for office based stuff, browsing the internet and streaming via explorer or Netflix app (lags using other browsers, think its a plugin issue)

I have only used my custom built i5k a few times this year now. That has 8.1 on it and an ssd boot drive. It's perfect for all the big heavy stuff should I need it.

You can believe me or not but the 3 (with little atom processors) boot up just as fast and have never lagged. Windows 10 will run on more devices than 8.1 and require less memory.


Android is far better for apps and stuff and I doubt Microsoft will ever catch up. But 10 is meant to be able to run Android apps from the off (and apples I think). 10 will be free licence, more manufacturers will be installing it etc. But that's just my opinion.

oceanclub

I had a Nexus 7 (2012) which after a year or so ran like molasses; 10 seconds to do anything, black screens, etc. Resetting, reinstalls, setting various settings related to GPU, number of processes, etc, didn't help at all. Hated using the damn thing even as a Kindle.

The following worked, however, and the result is unbelievable: tablet runs absolutely fine with multiple apps at once. Feels like brand new:

http://teknovenus.com/wordpress/speed-up-nexus-7-f2fs-slimkat/

I'm summary, you install a new ROM Slimkat but at same time use a new file system F2FS, which was quote:

developed by Samsung for use with NAND flash devices. It was built with the intention of being used on eMMC, SSD’s and SD cards, resulting in improved performance over the existing ext4 system used by Android.

The instructions are very clear and even an Android novice like me managed it in an afternoon. The only cost is 99c for an app which is used to perform the file system conversion on the downloaded ROM.

P.

D'Peoples Voice

T-Bird wrote: »

You can believe me or not but the 3 (with little atom processors) boot up just as fast and have never lagged. Windows 10 will run on more devices than 8.1 and require less memory.

Android is far better for apps and stuff and I doubt Microsoft will ever catch up. But 10 is meant to be able to run Android apps from the off (and apples I think). 10 will be free licence, more manufacturers will be installing it etc. But that's just my opinion.

Sorry you misunderstood me, I meant that Windows7 is fine - its the third party software that causes the lag for me. Windows10 will no doubt suffer the same fate, fantastic quick until third party software is installed. The problem is nearly always third party developers in my experience.

gaius c

Hi all
Having a recurring problem with my nexus 7 and it switching off and then restarting. Most of the time, it happens when using my slimport to cast netflix onto the tv but it does happen other times as well, usually under heavy load.

Most of the time, it just turns off and turns itself back on but the latest one appears to be more serious with all the apps re-optimising as if I had updated android.

Any thoughts? Is our cheapo slimport causing trouble or is the 7 simply not able to handle android 5 and our heavy use?

D'Peoples Voice

gaius c wrote: »

Any thoughts? Is our cheapo slimport causing trouble or is the 7 simply not able to handle android 5 and our heavy use?

Never worked better for me.
Put it in safemode for the rest of the day - if it reboots, you've a software problem - might need to flash another image via NRT.

If it doesn't reboot, you've a dodgy app.

scudzilla

Anybody got the OTA Marshmallow update yet?

coldfire1x

Haven't got anything yet.

clsmooth

Nothing. Any word on how the nexus handles it?

Tigerandahalf

clsmooth wrote: »

Nothing. Any word on how the nexus handles it?

My nexus 7 was unusable after the previous update. Hopefully this new update will sort it.

droidman123

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

My nexus 7 was unusable after the previous update. Hopefully this new update will sort it.

Was that not the nexus 7 2012 though?

Tigerandahalf

droidman123 wrote: »

Was that not the nexus 7 2012 though?

I don't know but a 3 year old tablet shouldn't be bricked by a software update. Looking online numerous people have been affected and nothing has been done about it.

droidman123

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I don't know but a 3 year old tablet shouldn't be bricked by a software update. Looking online numerous people have been affected and nothing has been done about it.

Yes my friend had the same problem but it was with the 2012 after it got lollipop.the 2012 wont be getting marshmallow,only the 2013

John mac

I got an ota marshmallow update on thursday . nexus 2013 wifi.
battery seems to last a little longer .

coldfire1x

Still nothing on my Nexus but hopefully get it soon.

ethernet

Got it on Wednesday or Thursday. Only 300MB download - would have expected it to be bigger. Doesn't feel like much has changed, visually at least.

scudzilla

Any way of pushing it through or is it a case of waiting?

irishchris

Got it on mine on Thursday too. Battery much improved. Getting just short of 7hrs screen on time now

clsmooth

Any other changes?? Runs pretty smoothly then?

stanley1

Battery life much improved, problem with usb cable connect, keeps defaulting to charging only option you have to change it in drop down notification to mpt, discussed a lot on android forums but no fix yet.

Clampdown

Hope this helps some of my issues, my 2013 went to crap after one of the updates, either lollipop or kitkat, cant recall which. Apps frequently not responding and have to be closed and restarted, in general much slower, keyboard malfunctions.

I hate having constant updates forced on me that actually make things worse, that I can't reverse. I did a factory reset and still have the same problems. Last week anytime I went to turn it on it was super slow because it wanted to update Google docs, which I had to wait ages for it to complete, even though I never use that app.

I'm convinced they know darn well the updates will eff up older models and they plan this to persuade people to buy new ones. Which makes no sense because I won't buy from them again if I wasn't happy, I will try another company.

Another problem I had was the cord, which was never long enough, split near the mini usb side and stopped working. I put a different mini USB cable into the adapter plug and it will charge the tablet, but not fast enough, (ie: if the tablet is on 2 or 3% and I plug in the charger, I can't keep using it, the battery will still decrease and it dies. With the original cord I could use it and battery would charge too)

While it was still a good value for the money, I will spend a bit extra for an iPad next time.

stanley1

Custom rom cyangenmod, nexus tool kit does it seemlessly, cuts out all the google crap + regular updates.

John mac

scudzilla wrote: »

Any way of pushing it through or is it a case of waiting?

links to factory images here androidpolice.com

Tigerandahalf

Would I be able to take mine back to carphone warehouse and get them to sort the issue?
Really annoyed that a quality tablet can be ruined by one of these updates.
Is there a warranty on these things?

gaius c

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Would I be able to take mine back to carphone warehouse and get them to sort the issue?
Really annoyed that a quality tablet can be ruined by one of these updates.
Is there a warranty on these things?

Factory reset should do it for you.

Tigerandahalf

gaius c wrote: »

Factory reset should do it for you.

Will it put the Nexus back to the previous update? I don't think the factory reset does that?

Clampdown

Factory reset didnt do squat for me, apps still stop responding.

wendell borton

Somehow managed to hard brick my N7 while flashing kitkat back onto it.:(

irishchris

Just over a week into this since updating and runs super smooth. Battery life greatly extended and no delay or lag anywhere thankfully

corkie

wendell borton wrote: »

Somehow managed to hard brick my N7 while flashing kitkat back onto it.:(

Unless you somehow managed to corrupt your bootloader (or have a locked bootloader). You may be able to recover from it!

stanley1

can you get to recovery.

Fiskar

wendell borton wrote: »

Somehow managed to hard brick my N7 while flashing kitkat back onto it.:(

Have never been able to unbrick my Nexus 7II, unfortunately it sits in a drawer, only got 18 months out of it, if anyone knows a lad in Dublin city who can unbrick it, please do let me know. I miss it for the train when commuting.

JoyPad

irishchris wrote: »

Just over a week into this since updating and runs super smooth. Battery life greatly extended and no delay or lag anywhere thankfully

Same here. Android Marshmallow has cured even the sensor problem!

heebusjeebus

F**king Sky Go wont work on Marshmallow. Should have known :mad:

wendell borton

corkie wrote: »

Unless you somehow managed to corrupt your bootloader (or have a locked bootloader). You may be able to recover from it!

stanley1 wrote: »

can you get to recovery.

Fiskar wrote: »

Have never been able to unbrick my Nexus 7II, unfortunately it sits in a drawer, only got 18 months out of it, if anyone knows a lad in Dublin city who can unbrick it, please do let me know. I miss it for the train when commuting.

There is no sign of life on it, the screen remains blank after pressing power button and power+volume.

stanley1

have you power cable inserted when you are pressing buttons.

coldfire1x

Finally got the update today.

irishchris

heebusjeebus wrote: »

F**king Sky Go wont work on Marshmallow. Should have known :mad:

Sky go working fine here on marshmallow.

Tigerandahalf

I did a hard reset on my Nexus 7 that had been bricked by the Lollipop update. It wiped everything but the same problem remains. A very laggy tablet I am left with. Called into Carphone Warehouse and they didn't want to know once their 18 month warranty is up.
As for contacting Google I have no idea how.

JoyPad

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I did a hard reset on my Nexus 7 that had been bricked by the Lollipop update. It wiped everything but the same problem remains. A very laggy tablet I am left with. Called into Carphone Warehouse and they didn't want to know once their 18 month warranty is up.
As for contacting Google I have no idea how.

You should have at least two years warranty, or else they break the EU law.
See here for details.