The Hipster Thread

Nuri Sahin

Been on the cards for awhile now, but Bielsa has officially been named Marseille coach.

Copper_pipe

Athletic Club & Real Sociedad will send youth stars on loan to Eibar to help the club out.

Boots234

Unbelievable finish to the Las Palmas and Cordoba game with Corboba scoring in the 9th minute of injury time to get promoted. The reason that there was so much injury time was because the Las Palmas fans were coming onto the field as Las Palmas were 1-0 up. The ref obviously had to be escorted off the field as quickly as possible once Corboba scored!

Oat23

Oat23 wrote: »

Proper hipster time. Gamba Osaka won the J2 this morning after confirming promotion back to J1 a few weeks ago. Takashi Usami scored a brace in a 3-2 win over Montedio Yamagata. Since returning in the summer from a two year loan spell in Germany, he scored 18 goals in 17 league games!

Nice to see them hold up Endo and Konno jerseys since they couldn't be there after being dragged off to a meaningless friendly against Holland.

Time for another Japan update because the team I follow is doing well :pac:

So far in their first year back in the top flight, Gamba have secured the league cup and are in the final of the emperor's cup (FA Cup) against J2 promotion chasers Montedio Yamagata. In the league, they sit top of the table on goal difference over Urawa Reds after they conceded a 94th minute equaliser away to Tosu this morning. Gamba won comfortably at home.

On the final matchday next Saturday, they travel to Tokushima, who are bottom and were relegated a few months ago. They have only picked up 13 points all season.

Also relegated alongside them were Gamba's city rivals Cerezo, who are known over here these days as the side Diego Forlan plays for. Here he is earlier today joking with Cacau on the pitch after a 4-1 loss that confirmed their relegation.


He scored 7 goals this season and earned $3.5m, which is two and a half times more than the next highest earner in the league. He wasn't even in the squad today and isn't injured.

kksaints

I know its an old thread but there really isn't anywhere for stuff like this and its not worthy of a thread of its own but Honved the legendary club of Puskas, Kocsis, Bozsik etc won the Hungarian title for the first time in 24 years tonight after a 1-0 win over Videoton who they were equal on points with before tonight.

Mushy

kksaints wrote: »

I know its an old thread but there really isn't anywhere for stuff like this and its not worthy of a thread of its own but Honved the legendary club of Puskas, Kocsis, Bozsik etc won the Hungarian title for the first time in 24 years tonight after a 1-0 win over Videoton who they were equal on points with before tonight.

Didn't they play United in a European Cup, think was 94/95? Right as I would have started remembering anything football related.

kksaints

Mushy wrote: »

Didn't they play United in a European Cup, think was 94/95? Right as I would have started remembering anything football related.

Close it was 93/94 actually.

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=1993/matches/round=53/match=50262/index.html

Mushy

kksaints wrote: »

Close it was 93/94 actually.

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=1993/matches/round=53/match=50262/index.html

Thought that was too early. Was my brothers 93/94 review book i read, so wouldve been that season after. No interest in their history at that age, cool to see a team back.

Boots234

Looks like the Polish league is going down to the wire. 2 points separate the top 4 with one round of games left. First are playing fourth and second are playing third. Cillian Sheridan's team could still win the league but need the leaders Legia Warsaw to slip up

adaminho

kksaints wrote: »

I know its an old thread but there really isn't anywhere for stuff like this and its not worthy of a thread of its own but Honved the legendary club of Puskas, Kocsis, Bozsik etc won the Hungarian title for the first time in 24 years tonight after a 1-0 win over Videoton who they were equal on points with before tonight.

Any excuse to play Half man half biscuit :D:D

Oat23

Boots234 wrote: »

Looks like the Polish league is going down to the wire. 2 points separate the top 4 with one round of games left. First are playing fourth and second are playing third. Cillian Sheridan's team could still win the league but need the leaders Legia Warsaw to slip up

Sheridan scored a brace today to give Jagiellonia a 2-1 win and keep them in with a chance. I watched their game against Legia last Sunday and they really should have won it to overtake them for 1st. Sheridan had it in the net at one point but it was ruled out. He's doing really well in Poland.

Interesting final day in Poland next Sunday!

I'm happy this thread was bumped

Mr.Nice Guy

The Guardian did a nice piece on Sheridan recently. Here it is if anyone missed it:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/behind-the-lines/2017/may/26/cillian-sheridan-nomadic-footballer-barcelona-celtic

HalloweenJack

Rijeka broke Dinamo Zagreb's dominance in Croatia. Dinamo had won every title since 2005 (seven doubles in there, too).

Oat23

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Rijeka broke Dinamo Zagreb's dominance in Croatia. Dinamo had won every title since 2005 (seven doubles in there, too).

Probably won't last but nice to know Zdravko Mamic is not happy right now at least. W*nker.

R00ster

Despite winning the league by 5 points, Lierse were not promoted from the Belgian second tier.
The Belgian league system in general is bizarrely convoluted. Charleroi finished 6th after the regular season, and fifth after the championship group. Yet they did not get a chance to enter the Europa league playoffs, whilst the team that finished 4th in the second tier did.
Genk played an additional 11 matches in the Europa league qualifying stage, only to lose a one off game away to Oostende. Oostende only had to play one qualifying match despite only finishing two points ahead of Genk.

First Division B Aggregate table

Europa League Qualifying

lassykk

R00ster wrote: »

Despite winning the league by 5 points, Lierse were not promoted from the Belgian second tier.
The Belgian league system in general is bizarrely convoluted. Charleroi finished 6th after the regular season, and fifth after the championship group. Yet they did not get a chance to enter the Europa league playoffs, whilst the team that finished 4th in the second tier did.
Genk played an additional 11 matches in the Europa league qualifying stage, only to lose a one off game away to Oostende. Oostende only had to play one qualifying match despite only finishing two points ahead of Genk.

First Division B Aggregate table

Europa League Qualifying

The links hurt my head!

inforfun

And the geniuses at the Dutch FA wanted to implement a similar set up for the Dutch league.
Thank god the clubs told them to **** off with a vote 16-2

HalloweenJack

A lot of Eastern European leagues seem to have gone for the Championship/European qualification/Relegation splits too. It wrecks my head to look at the tables. I can understand the idea that it makes it more interesting (though I don't think this actually happens) and, in a way, it does show that the team who wins the title are actually beating the top teams on their way as they play them more often, but it just seems so unnecessarily complicated.

R00ster

What's the point in trying during the season if mostly it comes down to the playoffs? It's even worse in some of the South American leagues. For example, in Colombia Atlético Nacional finished top in the Apertura, 20 points clear of the last play-off postion, 8th. Yet they both have a more or less equal chance of winning in the playoffs. 1st seed doesnt even play 8th in the quarter final. They do have the second legs at home till the end though. Scant reward for a runaway league succes IMO. Just a different way they do their football I suppose. We'd consider a straight league format the best way to decide the best team.

Colombian league

They play a lot of games too. Nacional played 84 games in 2016 :eek: (including a lot of midweek games), although the season runs from the end of January to mid December. It would have been 86 but for the Chapacoense plane crash.

Atletico Nacional 2016

dan1895

The brother in law had the privelage of attending the World Cup Qualifier between Malawi and Comoros the other day.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

R00ster wrote: »

What's the point in trying during the season if mostly it comes down to the playoffs? It's even worse in some of the South American leagues. For example, in Colombia Atl?tico Nacional finished top in the Apertura, 20 points clear of the last play-off postion, 8th. Yet they both have a more or less equal chance of winning in the playoffs. 1st seed doesnt even play 8th in the quarter final. They do have the second legs at home till the end though. Scant reward for a runaway league succes IMO. Just a different way they do their football I suppose. We'd consider a straight league format the best way to decide the best team.

Colombian league

They play a lot of games too. Nacional played 84 games in 2016 :eek: (including a lot of midweek games), although the season runs from the end of January to mid December. It would have been 86 but for the Chapacoense plane crash.

Atletico Nacional 2016

Looks like they'll win anyway, they're in the final now.

Oat23

It's crazy to think how much control a gangster like Mamic has over a world famous football player that he is willing to lie under oath for him and continue to give him a percentage of his salary to this day.

I'm sure he's continuing to do it to protect any family he has in Croatia though.

Loven from Liverpool is next up to lie for him in court.

http://www.total-croatia-news.com/sport/19664-luka-modric-testifies-at-trial-of-zdravko-mamic

Boots234

Parma are only one game away from being promoted to Serie B in Italy after being in Serie D back in 2015. They will be playing either Alessandria or Reggiana in a one off game to be promoted

Jelle1880

R00ster wrote: »

Despite winning the league by 5 points, Lierse were not promoted from the Belgian second tier.
The Belgian league system in general is bizarrely convoluted. Charleroi finished 6th after the regular season, and fifth after the championship group. Yet they did not get a chance to enter the Europa league playoffs, whilst the team that finished 4th in the second tier did.
Genk played an additional 11 matches in the Europa league qualifying stage, only to lose a one off game away to Oostende. Oostende only had to play one qualifying match despite only finishing two points ahead of Genk.

First Division B Aggregate table

Europa League Qualifying

As an Antwerp fan: Yeeeesssss

I love that they were so upset about it.
'But, but... we were champions!'

Maybe if their club hadn't voted for the reforms to get some quick cash.
Fantastic end to the season though, all they needed to qualify for the play off to get promoted was get a result against Roeselare, while we had to win at home in the last game and hope they drop points. Their opponents equalised in the 85th minute and we got a penalty in the 88th minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj7LaL2xl4I

For the final game to win the title about 10.000 fans watched the game on big screens at our stadium.

Boots234

Boots234 wrote: »

Parma are only one game away from being promoted to Serie B in Italy after being in Serie D back in 2015. They will be playing either Alessandria or Reggiana in a one off game to be promoted

Just to follow up on this it's Alessandria they are playing

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Contrary to what I said earlier, Cali beat Nacional in the first leg of the Colombian final, so have a pretty good chance of coming out on top now.

R00ster

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Contrary to what I said earlier, Cali beat Nacional in the first leg of the Colombian final, so have a pretty good chance of coming out on top now.

That Nacional might lose to Cali hurts my head. They finished 19 points ahead of them. The gap from Cali (6th) to the bottom team is 12 points...

inforfun

Dont know but maybe the fact they played 82 matches from july 1st 2016 till today might have something to do with it. That includes matches Copa Libertadores, Copa Sudamericana and WC for teams so a bit of travelling was included too.
And of course, it should have been 84.

Cali had 61.

Oat23

Class goal by Ibarguen for Nacional there. Very entertaining first half.
https://streamable.com/ba6j4

3-3 on aggregate now.

Nacional win 5-1 on the night and 5-3 on agg.

Cantona's Collars

Chinese Super League:

Oscar causes 50 man brawl,goes down as if shot by a sniper.

https://youtu.be/LpFN5iwxFhk

764dak

Jamaica beats French Guiana in a penalty shoot-out in a Caribbean Cup semifinal.
Florent Malouda plays for French Guiana.
http://www.concacaf.com/article/jamaica-outlasts-french-guiana-on-pks-advances-to-caribbean-final

lassykk

764dak wrote: »

Jamaica beats French Guiana in a penalty shoot-out in a Caribbean Cup semifinal.
Florent Malouda plays for French Guiana.
http://www.concacaf.com/article/jamaica-outlasts-french-guiana-on-pks-advances-to-caribbean-final

I'm confused. How has he changed allegiances?

I understand from a quick Google that French Guiana and Martinique are Overseas Departments of France, therefore their citizens are French and are eligible in the context of football to represent the mother country in Europe.

This doesn't explain to me how he can change?

Like an ROI player can't decide after playing a competitive game for ROI to change to be a NI player.

Am I missing something obvious?

Oat23

lassykk wrote: »

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I was wondering this too last night and couldn't figure it out..He's played almost a century of games for France and now he's allowed to play in the Gold Cup for French Guiana??

The FG association is considered a branch of the FFF according to wiki but I still don't understand it.

764dak

Saint-Martin, French Guiana, Martinique and Guadeloupe do not have FIFA membership although they belong to CONCACAF.  They can play in the Caribbean Cup and Gold Cup but cannot enter FIFA World Cup Qualification or the Confed Cup.

I guess he can play for a non-FIFA team.

Oat23

764dak wrote: »

Saint-Martin, French Guiana, Martinique and Guadeloupe do not have FIFA membership although they belong to CONCACAF. They can play in the Caribbean Cup and Gold Cup but cannot enter FIFA World Cup Qualification or the Confed Cup.

I guess he can play for a non-FIFA team.

That explains it.

The FIFA code on their wiki page threw me when I considered them not having membership but after clicking on it it says non-member countries are assigned a code too.

smackbunnybaby

Getafe are on the way back from the 2nd division after edging out another old boy, Tenerife 3-2 over 2 legs.
But did you see what happened Cadiz versus Tenerife in the semi-final of the play off?
Cadiz won the first game 1-0. Tenerife won the 2nd leg 1-0. So it went to extra time.
Extra time stayed the same.
At the end of 120 minutes, Tenerife were awarded the win because they had more 2 points in the league.
I found this a bit weird, arent the play offs supposed to be a clean slate?

kksaints

smackbunnybaby wrote: »

Getafe are on the way back from the 2nd division after edging out another old boy, Tenerife 3-2 over 2 legs.
But did you see what happened Cadiz versus Tenerife in the semi-final of the play off?
Cadiz won the first game 1-0. Tenerife won the 2nd leg 1-0. So it went to extra time.
Extra time stayed the same.
At the end of 120 minutes, Tenerife were awarded the win because they had more 2 points in the league.
I found this a bit weird, arent the play offs supposed to be a clean slate?

Not in Italy. The team with the highest league position goes through if its a draw after extra time in the second leg. Must be the same in Spain.

inforfun

I actually think that is much fairer than a decision by away goals or penalties.

In Holland Utrecht finished 12 points above AZ and in the EL play offs had a complete off day at AZ, 3-0
Managed to pull it back at home but only after penalties.
I would have been ok with the 3-0 at 90 mins and Utrecht winning the tie because of the 12 points lead in the league.

764dak

Curacao beat Jamaica 2-1 in the Caribbean Cup final.

HalloweenJack

Is Kluivert still in charge? I know he got that gig at PSG but I have it in my head that he said he would stay on for a bit as well.

inforfun

Kluivert was TD at PSG till last month
Left Curacao before starting at PSG already.

But what he started there, getting Dutch players with Antillean roots playing for them, is still going on so it isnt that much of a surprise the improved so much in such a short time.
They have some pretty decent players available.

dan1895

Toronto won the Canadian Championship with the last kick of the 2nd leg of the final.

https://twitter.com/CanadaSoccerEN/status/879875650110214146

764dak

In 2007, Jocelyn Angloma helped Guadeloupe reach the semifinals of the Gold Cup.  Angloma previously played for France.  CONCACAF recently changed the eligibility rules to match FIFA's so Malouda would be ineligible in Gold Cup despite playing in the Caribbean Cup.  If he plays the match would be forfeited.

Canada had a hard fought 4-2 win over French Guiana.  French Guiana decided to play Malouda in their second game against Honduras. The game ended 0-0.  The match will most likely be awarded 3-0 to Honduras.

764dak

In 2007, Jocelyn Angloma helped Guadeloupe reach the semifinals of the Gold Cup.  Angloma previously played for France.  CONCACAF recently changed the eligibility rules to match FIFA's so Malouda would be ineligible in Gold Cup despite playing in the Caribbean Cup.  If he plays the match would be forfeited.

Canada had a hard fought 4-2 win over French Guiana.  French Guiana decided to play Malouda in their second game against Honduras. The game ended 0-0.  The match will most likely be awarded 3-0 to Honduras.

764dak

inforfun wrote: »

Kluivert was TD at PSG till last month
Left Curacao before starting at PSG already.

But what he started there, getting Dutch players with Antillean roots playing for them, is still going on so it isnt that much of a surprise the improved so much in such a short time.
They have some pretty decent players available.

Jamaica, El Salvador, and Mexico all beat Curacao 2-0 in the Gold Cup.

764dak

Jamaica and USA play the Gold Cup final on Wednesday.

764dak

Football at the Central American and Caribbean Games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_at_the_2018_Central_American_and_Caribbean_Games
I think Colombia will win the men's tournament.
You can stream matches from here: http://barranquilla2018.com/en-vivo/ ;
or here: https://www.youtube.com/user/winsportstv/videos?flow=grid&view=2

Oat23

The Libertadores final on the 7th & 28th of November is unmissable. After River Plate snatched a win against Gremio last night with 2 goals in the last 10 minutes, Boca saw off Palmeiras in their semi tonight.


River v Boca in the final. Biggest match in South American football history without a doubt.

inforfun

They better start printing some indestructible, laminated yellow and red cards....



That was during some pre-season tournament in januari 2016.

GavRedKing

I've deleted a raft of posts, if its not on topic, I'll continue to delete.