Living in New York?

él statutorio

Palmy wrote: »

I don’t know for the life of me why people move to a major U.S city. Living close to a big city within an hours drive is the way to go. Eleven months is not giving it a go, I get it if you transferred over and was stuck in Chicago but if you had an option I would have gone elsewhere in the States. Cold
winters no thanks. Lived in Dublin for 13 years and was more afraid for my wellbeing there than I ever did in the States.

Would have to agree with that. I'm in the US almost 6 years now. The first 18-24 months were the hardest.
11 months isn't giving it a fair crack of the whip.

Palmy

él statutorio wrote: »

Would have to agree with that. I'm in the US almost 6 years now. The first 18-24 months were the hardest.
11 months isn't giving it a fair crack of the whip.

Yup you have to give it at least two years to say you actually gave it a go. Been here nearly 10yrs myself now.

MOR316

Lucky bastards...

Someone summed it up, for me. They've been all over the world, places I never even knew existed.

They said, "It's the one place where everything you've learned in life makes sense to you"

SHOVELLER

circular flexing wrote: »

The rules are actually pretty clear. Any overstay means you can’t use VWP or ESTA again. Overstay by more than 180 days but less than 1 year is 3 year ban. Anything over 1 year is a 10 year ban.

While the rules are clear it is always at the discretion of the officer who looks at your case. Under this administration you can be sure they will adhere strictly but otherwise I've known cases that were not cut and dried.

Palmy

SHOVELLER wrote: »

While the rules are clear it is always at the discretion of the officer who looks at your case. Under this administration you can be sure they will adhere strictly but otherwise I've known cases that were not cut and dried.

I know a girl from NZD who overstayed back in the 1990’s by three months and was automatically banned for ten years. Doesn’t matter which administration it’s in. Know of an Italian who was also arrested about ten years ago who had overstated by over a year. Spend three months in a immigration facility and send back to Italy on a flight escorted by two federal agents handcuffed. They charged the Italian government for his trip which was in the tens on thousands. While he left Italy, if he ever goes back to work their he would automatically get deducted heavily from his pay check.
Immigration doesn’t play around here period.
Two agencies you don’t mess with here. Immigration and the IRS

duffysfarm

would that be a 10 year bank from the date you overstayed? e.g. you overstayed in 2005 would you get an automatic ban for 10 years from then or would it be 10 years from when you next tried to get in?

SHOVELLER wrote: »

While the rules are clear it is always at the discretion of the officer who looks at your case. Under this administration you can be sure they will adhere strictly but otherwise I've known cases that were not cut and dried.

circular flexing

duffysfarm wrote: »

would that be a 10 year bank from the date you overstayed? e.g. you overstayed in 2005 would you get an automatic ban for 10 years from then or would it be 10 years from when you next tried to get in?

The ban starts the day you leave the US. But don't forget you cannot use VWP/ESTA if you overstay.

MOR316

So how long is the ESTA for? And can you only use it once?

Ponster

90 days. The visa allows you to visit as often as you like during the two years that it's valid for but it wouldn't surprise me if you were flagged for questioning for any possible abuses.

MOR316

Ponster wrote: »

90 days. The visa it sels allows you to visit as often as you like during the two years that it's valid for but it wouldn't surprise me if you were flagged for questioning for any possible abuses.

I would be very tempted to go for 3 months of the year so, as often as I can.

Providing things don't go the way I hope. Will make a trip to the Embassy to see what my options are and what I can do*

*For 2022, when Dublin comes out of level 3

él statutorio

MOR316 wrote: »

I would be very tempted to go for 3 months of the year so, as often as I can.

Providing things don't go the way I hope. Will make a trip to the Embassy to see what my options are and what I can do*

*For 2022, when Dublin comes out of level 3

As soon as you come back for your 2nd 90 stint you'll get grilled by immigration.

MOR316

él statutorio wrote: »

As soon as you come back for your 2nd 90 stint you'll get grilled by immigration.

"3 month holiday"

It's all it would be

circular flexing

él statutorio wrote: »

As soon as you come back for your 2nd 90 stint you'll get grilled by immigration.

I think once a year for 90 days wouldn't raise any flags. More frequent trips would raise a flag.

krissovo

MOR316 wrote: »

"3 month holiday"

It's all it would be

The trouble is that the CPB are not the most reliable for consistent entry while 8 times out of 10 you could have no trouble the other 2 could be painful experiences. Under the current administration I am fairly positive you would go through further screening after a 3 month stint the previous years and proof of address in the states, finances plus a ticket home Would be minimum requirements for entry.

Its can be hard enough as a green card holder and the burden of proof is up to the traveler an not the border patrol.

él statutorio

MOR316 wrote: »

"3 month holiday"

It's all it would be

You go ahead and try that and tell us how you get on....

It'll probably work for a few trips, but you'll eventually get a bollox of an immigration officer and that'll be the end of you 90 day trips.

You can do the 90 day trips but if you take the piss with it then you'll get caught out.

kravmaga

MOR316 wrote: »

So how long is the ESTA for? And can you only use it once?

2 years. After the 2 years is up you can apply again.

I'm sure all the questions are answered on the website anyways

https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/faq

Was in NYC in late Feb early March, just got back before lockdown.

It was overpriced, customer service was sh1t, did not meet one genuine American, a lot of Hispanics and Latinos in service industry, hotel, bars.

Eneded up in an Irish bar near The Rockerfella centre for a bit of banter and craic.

MOR316

él statutorio wrote: »

You go ahead and try that and tell us how you get on....

It'll probably work for a few trips, but you'll eventually get a bollox of an immigration officer and that'll be the end of you 90 day trips.

You can do the 90 day trips but if you take the piss with it then you'll get caught out.

I'll just do a 3 month trip and then a 2 month trip

Either way, there's always a way if you want it bad enough

Yyhhuuu

MOR316 wrote: »

I'll just do a 3 month trip and then a 2 month trip

Either way, there's always a way if you want it bad enough

Naïve

MOR316

Yyhhuuu wrote: »

Naïve

Ah well, I may as well just give up then so. No point in even trying. May as well just live here unhappy for the rest of my life

Thanks for showing me the light and thanks for your massive contribution

MOR316

él statutorio wrote: »

You go ahead and try that and tell us how you get on....

Needlessly aggressive

hurleronditch

MOR316 wrote: »

Needlessly aggressive

The thread is realistic.

I was on a work sponsored visa for 4 years and we got grilled frequently, pulled for extra screening once or twice and our paperwork was squeaky clean.

I admire your optimism, but in the current climate the minute you pitch up for your second 90 days you will get interrogated beyond believe and I reckon it will be a struggle to get in. You say there’s a will there’s a way,and I admire that outlook but if the CBP officer in Dublin airport pre-clearance says no and sends you home you’ve lost the price of your flights and even trying to appeal to get in another time will be very very tough. Everything is scanned with biometrics so even flying to Canada and driving/flying across you will get the same answer.

If you are hell bent on doing it and want to stay longer than 3 months, knowing someone who could give you a cash job (you won’t even have a social security number from and old J1 I assume) and just overstaying your 90 days is the most likely plan, but I’m not advising it, it’s fraught with risk and you’ll spend the rest of your days looking over your shoulder, knowing you can never pop home if a relative is sick or want to see family.

hurleronditch

kravmaga wrote: »

2 years. After the 2 years is up you can apply again.

I'm sure all the questions are answered on the website anyways

https://esta.cbp.dhs.gov/faq

Was in NYC in late Feb early March, just got back before lockdown.

It was overpriced, customer service was sh1t, did not meet one genuine American, a lot of Hispanics and Latinos in service industry, hotel, bars.

Eneded up in an Irish bar near The Rockerfella centre for a bit of banter and craic.

If you’re hanging around midtown near the sights looking for bars no wonder you didn’t have a good experience.

East Village, west village, TriBeCa, Williamsburg, LES etc even turtle bay/Murray hill or Hell’s Kitchen are more natural spots for nightlife and a more real NYC experience is. Irish bars in midtown, particularly up around that area are just sad overpriced soulless boozers looking to catch tourists going to shows and Times Square and the Empire State with bad pints and crap food.

listermint

MOR316 wrote: »

They said, "It's the one place where everything you've learned in life makes sense to you"

What absolutely hokey is this......

MOR316

listermint wrote: »

What absolutely hokey is this......

Well, he's been everywhere in the world.
But, go on...

Burst my bubble and tell me how **** it is, how wrong I am blah blah blah.

Miserable

El Tarangu

MOR316 wrote: »

Ah well, I may as well just give up then so. No point in even trying. May as well just live here unhappy for the rest of my life

Thanks for showing me the light and thanks for your massive contribution

No-one is telling you not to emigrate; just pointing out that there are dozens of other countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, any country in the EU) that you will find it far easier to emigrate to.

hurleronditch

MOR316 wrote: »

Well, he's been everywhere in the world.
But, go on...

Burst my bubble and tell me how **** it is, how wrong I am blah blah blah.

Miserable

“Everywhere in the world”

I’ve lived in New York, it’s an amazing city for good and bad reasons, but the complete **** like this that sometimes gets spouted about the place just wrecks my head. It’s just another city, a great one, a famous one, a manky dirty full of inequality one, but it’s just another one of hundreds at the end of the day.

amadangomor

Sorry if off topic. I'm out of the loop about immigration procedures nowadays so any advice appreciated.

I overstayed in 1999 by about 15 months. Went for a holiday after college and picked up a job and just stayed. Just didn't hand in my green slip when leaving.

If I wanted to go back for a holiday now is it worth being honest when going through the process or say nothing and hope for the best?

circular flexing

amadangomor wrote: »

Sorry if off topic. I'm out of the loop about immigration procedures nowadays so any advice appreciated.

I overstayed in 1999 by about 15 months. Went for a holiday after college and picked up a job and just stayed. Just didn't hand in my green slip when leaving.

If I wanted to go back for a holiday now is it worth being honest when going through the process or say nothing and hope for the best?

If you didn't hand in the green slip it's possible your exit was not properly recorded. You would need to find out if it was recorded properly as a first step.



If you overstayed then you can't use ESTA/VWP program, you need to apply for a B2 visa at the embassy to visit. You could try applying for ESTA but even if approved, there's no guarantee of being allowed entry.

MOR316

hurleronditch wrote: »

“Everywhere in the world”

I’ve lived in New York, it’s an amazing city for good and bad reasons, but the complete **** like this that sometimes gets spouted about the place just wrecks my head. It’s just another city, a great one, a famous one, a manky dirty full of inequality one, but it’s just another one of hundreds at the end of the day.

Well, how about this...

Since I didn't say it and I'm only repeating what a friend told me, I'll PM you his number and you can give him a call and tell him how you feel. That sound good?

MOR316

El Tarangu wrote: »

No-one is telling you not to emigrate; just pointing out that there are dozens of other countries (Canada, Australia, New Zealand, any country in the EU) that you will find it far easier to emigrate to.

Jesus Christ... I feel like I've said this in the vast majority of my posts

For the final time, I have no interest in going to any of those places!
This is what I've wanted since I was a kid! That's it!

If I wanted out just to go anywhere, do you really think I'd be wasting my time in this thread?

All I want is some help in getting to the place and advice on how to do it! I don't want posts like, "Ugh well it's easier to go to this country" and "You're naive" and "It's ****" because they're not exactly helpful!

If anyone has something useful to contribute, that I can use or you can help me with something, great! I'm all ears and I'll be incredibly thankful and appreciative!
If all you're going to do is spout stuff to try turn me off, don't bother!