The Pat Kenny Show

nhur · 19-05-2017 1:37pm

judeboy101 wrote: »

When the lad from Iona institute seems balanced and pragmatic, its a bad sign deputy coppinger

what was the name of yer man on with Coppinger? i was listening this morning and was aghast at his disingenuousness... I normally wouldn't like to align myself with the PPPAAA crowd (or any politicians i suppose) but RC defo had the right side of this issue...

wnolan1992 · 19-05-2017 2:42pm

nhur wrote: »

what was the name of yer man on with Coppinger? i was listening this morning and was aghast at his disingenuousness... I normally wouldn't like to align myself with the PPPAAA crowd (or any politicians i suppose) but RC defo had the right side of this issue...

David Quinn I believe. Director of Iona Institute.

If I posted my opinion of that man, I'd have to ban myself from the forum, so I'll just move on. Didn't hear the interview thankfully, when I heard he'd be on, I switched to 5 Live. Can't be dealing with him on a Friday.

nhur · 19-05-2017 3:53pm

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Can't be dealing with him on a Friday.

Ha! cheers. Yeah ... I was pretty irate when i got into work. I'm kind of appalled by the whole thing

PeterTheNinth · 23-05-2017 9:42am

My God, Newstalk even use a terrorist attack as an excuse to attack Trump on his lack of vocabulary. Pathetic from Pat Kenny, you think HE would have a bit of perspective.

ThisRegard · 23-05-2017 9:57am

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

My God, Newstalk even use a terrorist attack as an excuse to attack Trump on his lack of vocabulary. Pathetic from Pat Kenny, you think HE would have a bit of perspective.

Seriously Peter, it was just a a comment from someone that they read out!

Grolschevik · 23-05-2017 10:39am

PeterTheNinth wrote:

My God, Newstalk even use a terrorist attack as an excuse to attack Trump on his lack of vocabulary. Pathetic from Pat Kenny, you think HE would have a bit of perspective.

My God, you even use a terrorist attack as an excuse to get outraged on behalf of Trump. Pathetic. You should have a bit of perspective.

Lady Chatterton · 23-05-2017 10:52am

Jonathan Healy started writing for the Sunday Business Post last Sunday. I'm not sure if it's going to be regular thing but I wish him well as he isn't getting too much work from Newstalk these days.

Lady Chatterton · 23-05-2017 11:49am

Seanie Fizpatrick has been acquitted :eek:

Edit: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017/0523/877300-sean-fitzpatrick/

Ol' Donie · 23-05-2017 12:32pm

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

Seanie Fizpatrick has been acquitted :eek:

Edit: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2017/0523/877300-sean-fitzpatrick/

What the f**k?

Wait now, so all you need to do to be acquitted of anything is to have to prosecution try too hard?

Conservative · 23-05-2017 8:49pm

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

My God, Newstalk even use a terrorist attack as an excuse to attack Trump on his lack of vocabulary. Pathetic from Pat Kenny, you think HE would have a bit of perspective.

I didn't hear much of the show today but I did hear this. I absolutely love Pat Kenny but he sure reads the anti-Trump texts with gusto.

Last week he said Spicers deputy (Mike Huckabess daughter name escapes me) made a fool of herself when covering for him. I thought she did a good job given the unenviable situation and I couldn't find much online that slammed her like Pat suggested.

I wouldn't normally be a defender of Trump's vocabulary or general buffoonery in public but I can't say I saw anything wrong with his statement today and loser is quite an appropriate term for this person.

If nothing else it makes a change from the same old **** we hear from every other politician around.

jobbridge4life · 23-05-2017 9:01pm

Ol' Donie wrote: »

What the f**k?

Wait now, so all you need to do to be acquitted of anything is to have to prosecution try too hard?

Don't be ridiculous.

The prosecution interfered with evidence, coached witnesses. That is completely unacceptable and your desire for a pound of flesh doesn't make it any more acceptable.

Cop on.

jobbridge4life · 23-05-2017 9:02pm

Skid X · 23-05-2017 9:13pm

I was very surprised the trial continued so long.

This was all reported as the trial progressed and it was always heading to this conclusion. As much as it pains to see Mr Fitzpatrick walk free you can't have evidence shredded and witnesses coached.

Lady Chatterton · 23-05-2017 9:31pm

I'll amazed my TV survived his smug statement to the press :mad:

Del.Monte · 23-05-2017 10:38pm

Skid X wrote: »

I was very surprised the trial continued so long.

This was all reported as the trial progressed and it was always heading to this conclusion. As much as it pains to see Mr Fitzpatrick walk free you can't have evidence shredded and witnesses coached.

Agreed, but what was shredded - that we will never know. The corruption in this country is quite unreal and the shredding could have been for any number of reasons and whose to say it wasn't motivated by .....

dxhound2005 · 23-05-2017 11:07pm

Del.Monte wrote: »

Agreed, but what was shredded - that we will never know. The corruption in this country is quite unreal and the shredding could have been for any number of reasons and whose to say it wasn't motivated by .....

I think corruption is quite real in every country. But in Ireland and probably other countries it is a criminal offence, so the only real measure would be the number of convictions recorded.

However the perception of corruption is something which is also measured, by those who set themselves up to do so. They place Ireland at 19th best out of 176 in the latest index.

http://transparency.ie/news_events/corruption-perceptions-index-2016

Ol' Donie · 23-05-2017 11:22pm

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous.

The prosecution interfered with evidence, coached witnesses. That is completely unacceptable and your desire for a pound of flesh doesn't make it any more acceptable.

Cop on.

I didn't say it was at all acceptable. My, my, you're defensive.

Perhaps I misunderstood, the prosecution messed up, so the case is effectively abandoned. So, there's no verdict, it's just let's all just forget about it.

What have I missed?

sligojoek · 24-05-2017 12:26am

constitutionus · 24-05-2017 9:59am

poor aul pat.

he REALLY hates the water protesters winning.

Lady Chatterton · 24-05-2017 11:42am

It goes without saying Leo Varadkar is an excellent communicator but I thought Simon Conveney performed well this morning, it was one of his better interviews.

constitutionus · 24-05-2017 12:12pm

my money is on Simon to win TBH.

People always forget all the Machiavellian dark arts at work behind the scenes in political parties and reilly didnt resign as president of FG for a laugh.

Remember everyone wrote off enda in the heave and with two weeks to go theres loads that can happen.

that said if Leo won i'd be perfectly happy.

i wouldnt vote FG to save my life and nobody screams privileged Tory boy like Leo. he'll only attract the usual voting cohort of the blueshirts and precious little else.

Lady Chatterton · 24-05-2017 11:44pm

constitutionus wrote: »

my money is on Simon to win TBH.

People always forget all the Machiavellian dark arts at work behind the scenes in political parties and reilly didnt resign as president of FG for a laugh.

Remember everyone wrote off enda in the heave and with two weeks to go theres loads that can happen.

that said if Leo won i'd be perfectly happy.

i wouldnt vote FG to save my life and nobody screams privileged Tory boy like Leo. he'll only attract the usual voting cohort of the blueshirts and precious little else.

I don't share your optimism (I wish I did).

I'm just after watching an interview Simon gave Vincent Browne, Vinny gave him some grilling, like only he can

...... but in all fairness to Simon, he performed very well. I've listened to Simon hum and hah his way through interviews in the past but in the two interviews I listened to today there was massive improvement in his ability to get his message across. He won't win the leadership contest but I reckon he will do well with the grassroots FG members. The guy has gone way up in my estimation, he has liathroidi.

PeterTheNinth · 25-05-2017 9:30am

constitutionus wrote: »

my money is on Simon to win TBH.

I just don't see how you get this, not with the numbers where they are at the moment. Are you expecting a huge amount of them to swap. You would think that FG would be better off just calling Leo as the leader at this stage, as the debates (and further contributions from Kate O'Connell) may leave lasting divisions within the party.

constitutionus · 25-05-2017 11:10am

thats exactly what i think is gonna happen.

leos' gotta keep EVERYONE happy. simon can sack the entire cabinet and stuff it with his people. thats a very powerful postion to be in. i bet you anything right now james reilly is schmoozing those he thinks are wavers and asking them "what do you want to switch your vote"

all he needs then is for leo to put his foot in his mouth and they'll be off like lemmings.

dont think any of these guys love leo, theyre polticians, theyre in this for themselves. this is gonna get DIRTY.

wait n see.

Lady Chatterton · 25-05-2017 7:27pm

Last Friday, our two Clare Fine Gael TDs - Joe Carey & Pat Breen were like two nodding puppies beside Simon Coveney during a press conference in Clare. By midnight both TDs had declared for Leo as soon as Simon had safely exited the county.

In this week's Clare Champion Newspaper, the eight sitting Fine Gael county councillors were asked who they would be supporting in the leadership contest. So far, no one has declared for Leo, with the majority leaning towards Simon, as Clare is a rural constituency it's probably not that surprising. However, it would appear our two TDs are out of touch with the FG grassroots, but it wouldn't be the first time.

Cllr Pat Burke - still undecided
Cllr Joe Cooney - Simon Coveney
Cllr John Crowe - still undecided
Cllr Johnny Flynn - Undeclared but 'I've a strong leaning towards Simon Coveney'
Cllr Mary Howard - Simon Coveney
Cllr Gabriel Keating - Undeclared 'At the moment I'd have a leaning towards Simon Coveney'
Cllr Paul Murphy - Simon Coveney
Cllr Bill Slattery - Undeclared

For the political anoraks out there like myself FG will be streaming the first of four FG leaderships debates at 8pm this evening on their website

https://www.finegael.ie/leadership-campaign-2017/

constitutionus · 25-05-2017 10:57pm

i know its a different show (and station) but the late debate on RTE tonight was pretty much all about that first hustings .

plenty of roaring from the panal for those interested in streaming it.

constitutionus · 26-05-2017 10:48am

Pats having a hard time with trumps first foreign visit goin off without a hitch.

Between this and Leo losing the husting last night its a bad day for team dinny .

PeterTheNinth · 01-06-2017 9:49am

What can be done to make Jonathan Healy just go away forever. I swear to god their fire him from one job, and you come in to the office the next morning and he's making pancakes in the canteen.

03-06-2017 1:37am

I'm listening on playback to this man speaking about his daughter sleeping in his car with her five children.

My blood is boiling. I am very much on the political left but where is the family?

This man says his other daughter, this woman's sister, only has one spare room. well Jesus, put them in that! isn't it better to sleep there than all be crowded into one car?

He says he cant take them in because his wife is grieving for another dead son. I'm sorry, but take them in. These children's lives matter more than one who has sadly died.

The family will still eligible for social housing if living in unsuitable conditions with relatives, but for Christ's sake, whatever happened to family esponsibility?

I fully agree with the obligation of the state to house this misfortunate family, but that doesn't mean the family should be absolved of all its natural responsibilities in the meantime.

I'm disappointed Pat didn't challenge the woman's father on this point. He has a responsibility here as a father and as a grandfather.

jharr100 · 03-06-2017 1:55am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I'm listening on playback to this man speaking about his daughter sleeping in his car with her five children.

My blood is boiling. I am very much on the political left but where is the family?

This man says his other daughter, this woman's sister, only has one spare room. well Jesus, put them in that! isn't it better to sleep there than all be crowded into one car?

He says he cant take them in because his wife is grieving for another dead son. I'm sorry, but take them in. These children's lives matter more than one who has sadly died.

The family will still eligible for social housing if living in unsuitable conditions with relatives, but for Christ's sake, whatever happened to family esponsibility?

I fully agree with the obligation of the state to house this misfortunate family, but that doesn't mean the family should be absolved of all its natural responsibilities in the meantime.

I'm disappointed Pat didn't challenge the woman's father on this point. He has a responsibility here as a father and as a grandfather.

How could you sleep at night knowing your daughter and grandchildren are sleeping in a car . I just don't get it.

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