The Pat Kenny Show

Callan57

Technocentral wrote: »

Like him or not hes the only one who really appeals to the new progressive Ireland, big support amongst young people especially , look at the amount of gigs in support of him etc

There is something about Michael D that is uplifting, I would suggest he gives the country a "feel good" vibe. None of the other candidates have managed to generate anything like that.

jay0109

Callan57 wrote: »

There is something about Michael D that is uplifting, I would suggest he gives the country a "feel good" vibe. None of the other candidates have managed to generate anything like that.

That you can be a socialist and a millionaire?
That one day, you too could have several state backed pensions....UCG, TD, Ministers, Presidents, OAP?
His support for Castro?...the Che Guevara vibe that comes with all that (the youths do be loving the auld Che Guevara stuff)?

Tell me how

jay0109 wrote: »

That you can be a socialist and a millionaire?

Are you saying you cannot? Why?

jay0109 wrote: »

That one day, you too could have several state backed pensions....UCG, TD, Ministers, Presidents, OAP?

Is he not entitled to these in the same way that any and every other person who fills those roles gets those rewards?

jay0109 wrote: »

His support for Castro?...the Che Guevara vibe that comes with all that (the youths do be loving the auld Che Guevara stuff)?

I'd say most young people see him smiling in a welcoming manner where he obviously is enjoying the sporting or cultural occasion he is at. Or see's him with his dogs which again portrays an image of a lovable friendly person (and it's not just the dogs per say but how they he engages with them).

Callan57

jay0109 wrote: »

That you can be a socialist and a millionaire?
That one day, you too could have several state backed pensions....UCG, TD, Ministers, Presidents, OAP?
His support for Castro?...the Che Guevara vibe that comes with all that (the youths do be loving the auld Che Guevara stuff)?

I mean an indefinable quality that just has the happy knack of making people feel good & puts a smile on faces ... maybe what I mean is that he has the "likeability factor".

jay0109

Tell me how wrote: »

Are you saying you cannot? Why?

Of course you can but I always find it a tad ironic and a bit 'rich' to be honest

Is he not entitled to these in the same way that any and every other person who fills those roles gets those rewards?

Being entitled to them is 1 thing. The rights and wrongs and all that of so many state pensions.
But should he get them is another especially as he is drawing down a very large state salary at present.

I'd say most young people see him smiling in a welcoming manner where he obviously is enjoying the sporting or cultural occasion he is at. Or see's him with his dogs which again portrays an image of a lovable friendly person (and it's not just the dogs per say but how they he engages with them).

Wow....give him a nobel prize as well :rolleyes:

Tell me how

jay0109 wrote: »

Of course you can but I always find it a tad ironic and a bit 'rich' to be honest


Being entitled to them is 1 thing. The rights and wrongs and all that of so many state pensions.
But should he get them is another especially as he is drawing down a very large state salary at present.



Wow....give him a nobel prize as well :rolleyes:

You could have just written "Bah humbug" as your response.
Haters gonna hate.

monstermag

I must admit I was delighted when Pat torpedoed Sean Gallaghers Aras bid with that infamous tweet. But seven years on l regret been part of that lynch mob, it was a very dirty race especially for Sean and David Norris, two thoroughly decent men. Norris was dragged through the mud, he subsequently took and won something like eleven libel actions.
MHD kinda snuck in the back door, l think this time it's going to be a clean race. Would've loved if Norris had thrown his hat in the ring this tine around, the debates would be so much better. I can't see any journalist asking MD any hard questions, he's basically going to get a free ride, pity because he has a tendency to get a little tetchy when challenged. Imagine if he lost the rag on one of the debates. Are you listening Pat?

alaimacerc

Tell me how wrote: »

Is Duffy a dark horse really though? Or is he a dark horse who is also miles behind the other runners? On what basis has he indicated that he could be considered an appropriate occupant of the office of the President.

The odds and the OP ratings don't bear suggest he's going anywhere, but he's one of the three runners I could see at least bluffing his way through the presidency without the entire country cringing in embarrassment every few weeks.

His last couple of outings on The Other Side (SOR, today's debate) have been fairly poor, though.

jay0109

Tell me how wrote: »

You could have just written "Bah humbug" as your response.
Haters gonna hate.

A very adult response

Hector Savage

Pat going on about how Trump is a fascist now, what an absolute f*cking tool!!

alaimacerc

Hector Savage wrote: »

Pat going on about how Trump is a fascist now, what an absolute f*cking tool!!

Newstalk listeners don't tune into for this sort of crazy "what most people in Ireland think" propaganda! Deploy the emergency Hooky appearance!

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Hector Savage wrote:

Pat going on about how Trump is a fascist now, what an absolute f*cking tool!!

I too agree Trump is an absolute f*cking tool.

mattser

Hector Savage wrote: »

Pat going on about how Trump is a fascist now, what an absolute f*cking tool!!

Plank can't hide his naked disdain of POTUS since he was elected. I don't think he has ever had a guest on his show who had a different view.

alaimacerc

mattser wrote: »

Plank can't hide his naked disdain of POTUS since he was elected. I don't think he has ever had a guest on his show who had a different view.

Surprising. PK used to be very fond of having someone on, just to talk all over them for being wrong about everything!

Maybe his GP has said it's bad with his current meds.

Faugheen

mattser wrote: »

Plank can't hide his naked disdain of POTUS since he was elected. I don't think he has ever had a guest on his show who had a different view.

He has, but you and I both know that it doesn’t fit into your Trump loving agenda.

I see many people being pissed off about Pat not liking Trump but not giving any valid reasons as to why he should.

Pat is well researched in this topic matter and hasn’t just plucked an opinion out of thin air. I find it funnier that people get so hot and bothered by it. Pat doesn’t like Trump, so what?

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Faugheen wrote: »

He has, but you and I both know that it doesn’t fit into your Trump loving agenda.

I see many people being pissed off about Pat not liking Trump but not giving any valid reasons as to why he should.

Pat is well researched in this topic matter and hasn’t just plucked an opinion out of thin air. I find it funnier that people get so hot and bothered by it. Pat doesn’t like Trump, so what?

They get pissed off because Kenny can't be dismissed as some raving lefty or millenial snowflake. He's a middle-aged, highly experienced and intelligent political broadcaster, a moderate-to-conservative public figure, and he still sees how exceptionally awful Trump is.

mattser

Faugheen wrote: »

He has, but you and I both know that it doesn’t fit into your Trump loving agenda.

I see many people being pissed off about Pat not liking Trump but not giving any valid reasons as to why he should.

Pat is well researched in this topic matter and hasn’t just plucked an opinion out of thin air. I find it funnier that people get so hot and bothered by it. Pat doesn’t like Trump, so what?

I never said I had a Trump loving agenda. So don't lump ' you and I 'with that crap.
What I do love is balanced broadcasting, not the same old one way skit and ridicule day after day. That's cheap and lazy.

alaimacerc

Ayden Thundering Poison wrote: »

He's a middle-aged, [...]

Generous!

alaimacerc

mattser wrote: »

What I do love is balanced broadcasting, not the same old one way skit and ridicule day after day. That's cheap and lazy.

The median American didn't vote for Trump. The median Irish person thinks he's a right-wing-baiting buffoon. What sort of balance do you think is called for?

(Also bear in mind that Newstalk isn't a public-service broadcaster, so doesn't have to be behave as RTE does. And certainly not for the output of a single broadcaster in their lineup.)

kneemos

mattser wrote: »

I never said I had a Trump loving agenda. So don't lump ' you and I 'with that crap.
What I do love is balanced broadcasting, not the same old one way skit and ridicule day after day. That's cheap and lazy.

You want somebody on who's on support of Trump. That's not how broadcasting works. They get coverage when they are controversial in some way. It's the same with Irish,UK or other politicians, nobody comes on singing the praises of Theresa May Jean Claude Junker.

If it's a love in you want Fox News is freely available.

alaimacerc

Hook is presumably pro-Trump, right? Or at least on some issues. Or some excuses to wind people up, more to the point.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5

Iirc correctly Ivan Yates started out fairly non-committal leaning towards amused by him too.

alaimacerc

Ayden Thundering Poison wrote: »

Iirc correctly Ivan Yates started out fairly non-committal leaning towards amused by him too.

That's Ivan's "tell" for something he's just being a wind-up artist over, as opposed to the various topics he's liable to rant sincerely on.

Coillte_Bhoy

Hasnt Pat had some right wing pro Trump law lecturer from Maynooth on regularly discussing Trump? Cant think of his name, has a really unusual and annoying voice

jobbridge4life

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Hasnt Pat had some right wing pro Trump law lecturer from Maynooth on regularly discussing Trump? Cant think of his name, has a really unusual and annoying voice

Seth Barrett Tillman, I believe. Not that he'd agree with your estimation of him as a 'right wing law lecturer', I'd estimate.

serfboard

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Hasnt Pat had some right wing pro Trump law lecturer from Maynooth on regularly discussing Trump? Cant think of his name, has a really unusual and annoying voice

Seth Barrett Tillman is the fella you have in mind - he features on RTE from time to time too.

Beechwoodspark

serfboard wrote: »

Seth Barrett Tillman is the fella you have in mind - he features on RTE from time to time too.

He has a habit of going to such high pitched squeaks that only bats can hear him, when he is annoyed

Ursus Horribilis

At least he's more articulate than Charlie Wolff who sounds like a semi-senile granddad when he talks about Trump on RTE.

Ol' Donie

"I heard a story of a rat eating a seagull"

Henry McKean investigates.

serfboard

Ol' Donie wrote: »

"I heard a story of a rat eating a seagull" - Henry McKean investigates.

For those who complain about Paddy O'Gorman's Vox Pops on Sean O'Rourke ...