The Pat Kenny Show

jeremyj1968

BPKS wrote: »

Newstalk management should listen to the interview yesterday with the aviation expert.

And the most ridiculous thing is that you can tell by Healy that he actually thinks he is an amazingly witty broadcaster, and not a smug sarcastic w@nker.

I see Pat is down 8000 in the latest figures released today. It's a good thing that he's away on holidays cos that would have p1ssed him off.

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dominatinMC

dominatinMC wrote: »

He even has a punchable face!

Ban this person!!

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Ban this person!!

He's talking about Healy.

The hatred is strong in some.

coolshannagh28

jeremyj1968 wrote: »

The Democrat they brought in to the studio to give them analysis thinks that Trump will not leave the White House if he loses the next election. He'll barricade himself in and his supporters will be marching on the streets. Based on absolutely nothing. Not challenged, not even presented as hypothesis. Very hard to take the station seriously these days when they are so conflicted by their own biases.

I thought this was a prank when I just tuned in then I heard Jonathon Healy agree sagely with this lunacy.

dominatinMC

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He's talking about Healy.

The hatred is strong in some.

Hate is a strong word, I prefer dislike! And, yes, I was referring to Healy. How could anyone ever want to punch Pat

Uncharted

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You got to stand beside him!! :pac: I imagine he smelt cedarwood and mahogany and wore a deep red silk cravat.

Eh.... no. A grey suit under a navy Regatta rain jacket I'm afraid.
He was buying a 64gig memory card for a camera.

No noticeable scents to report of.


( wow,I sound like a fcuking creepy stalker )

Coillte_Bhoy

BPKS wrote: »

Newstalk management should listen to the interview yesterday with the aviation expert.

It is why Healy should be let nowhere near hosting a show again. Kept butting in, giving his own "expert" opinion and little sarcastic jibes.

I actually hit the steering wheel and shouted "Will you shut TF up you p&%$k".

I actually did the same today during the discussion on Irish myths, he never stopped with his little interruptions trying to be oh so funny, he's beginning to ruin my mornings :mad:

bossdrum

Jonathan Healy is now running his own PR business.
Best of luck to him with that but how do we know that when he is supposed to be grilling a politician that he hasn't already given them advice?

bossdrum

bossdrum wrote: »

Jonathan Healy is now running his own PR business.
Best of luck to him with that but how do we know that when he is supposed to be grilling a politician that he hasn't already given them advice?

That's a good question. Then again, not many people raised similar questions of Anton Savage -- a very popular broadcaster in some people's eyes -- despite his links to the Communications Clinic, of which he is now its Managing Director.

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A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That's a good question. Then again, not many people raised similar questions of Anton Savage -- a very popular broadcaster in some people's eyes -- despite his links to the Communications Clinic, of which he is now its Managing Director.

Or Ivan Yates talking to people he was in government with.

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Or Ivan Yates talking to people he was in government with.

In fairness I don't think Ivan counted any of them as mates, even back then. He isn't a dyed-in-the-wool Blueshirt, and I don't believe he has any loyalty to the party. Or to any party.

BarryM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

In fairness I don't think Ivan counted any of them as mates, even back then. He isn't a dyed-in-the-wool Blueshirt, and I don't believe he has any loyalty to the party. Or to any party.

Crap, he 'justifys' things by reference to political expediency. He is, even after all the years, still a pol.

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BarryM wrote: »

Crap, he 'justifys' things by reference to political expediency. He is, even after all the years, still a pol.

He had Brendan Howlin on before and it was like a school reunion between the two of them.

Not indicative of entirely objective questioning.

meeeeh

I think Yates ofren over compensates and goes harder on FG politicians. He almost finished Enda Kenny. I would say Eoghan Murphy is lucky Shane Ross is in the government or he would face even more criticism.

Anyway I 'm not overly bothered about different affiliations presenters on commercial stations have. National broadcaster is a different story.

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He had Brendan Howlin on before and it was like a school reunion between the two of them.

Not indicative of entirely objective questioning.

Well I'm speculating here, but based on his (Yates's) bildungsroman (for surely tis a work of occasional fiction to please the reader) Howlin was (nonetheless) no friend of his. The two are poles apart, you'd suspect. Nevertheless, i accept your point.

But unbiased reporting is a mirage anyway. I'm not telling tales or claiming any special knowledge here, because it's no secret, a few broadcasters are close personal friends with senior Government figures. We're as bad as the French when it comes to close links between the media and legislators. Only the judiciary really insulate themselves from all of that. You'll never meet a judge in Doheny & Nesbitt.

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A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Well I'm speculating here, but based on his (Yates's) bildungsroman (for surely tis a work of occasional fiction to please the reader) Howlin was (nonetheless) no friend of his. The two are poles apart, you'd suspect. Nevertheless, i accept your point.

But unbiased reporting is a mirage anyway. I'm not telling tales or claiming any special knowledge here, because it's no secret, a few broadcasters are close personal friends with senior Government figures. We're as bad as the French when it comes to close links between the media and legislators. Only the judiciary really insulate themselves from all of that. You'll never meet a judge in Doheny & Nesbitt.

Yeah, in a country the size of Ireland, it's impossible to expect that there won't be relationships between media and political people, or people in industry for that matter. They'll have gone to school together, worked together in some cases, dated at times I'm sure.
No different to everyone else.

I've no problem with any of the above in terms of being impartial.
If you can't determine whether or not an interview was appropriately objective, you probably don't really understand the topic.

Maria Bailey tried to play on some sort of relationship or familiarity with Sean O'Rourke and he had none of it.

We're a long way from Trump and his Foxy Friends.

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Yeah, in a country the size of Ireland, it's impossible to expect that there won't be relationships between media and political people, or people in industry for that matter. They'll have gone to school together, worked together in some cases, dated at times I'm sure.
No different to everyone else.

Well the judges manage it in fairness, and many of them will have gone to the same schools. I think the only judge who didn't give up socialising when he joined the bench was Paul Carney. He liked a tipple. Otherwise, socialising is frowned upon (outside of any professional events, obviously)

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A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Well the judges manage it in fairness, and many of them will have gone to the same schools. I think the only judge who didn't give up socialising when he joined the bench was Paul Carney. He liked a tipple. Otherwise, socialising is frowned upon (outside of any professional events, obviously)

How many judges are there by comparison to other professions?

Also, the relationships are there as well just not as obvious.

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How many judges are there by comparison to other professions?

Also, the relationships are there as well just not as obvious.

There are over 50 judges of the Superior Courts, and another 30 of the Dublin Circuit & District Court combined (the latter two are less relevant, because of the nature of their caseloads, but almost all of them give up ordinary socialising -- it's part of the job)

There are only 15 members of the Government, but some of them are based down the country, as are a lot of junior ministers and TDs.

I'm not saying politicians should completely detach themselves from having a social life, that would be an unreasonable burden. But the idea of a Minister and a news/political journalist sitting down to dinner with senior political figures or having close personal relationships with them, and then talking out of the other side of their mouth about media objectivity and fake news, I mean it's a bit of a joke frankly.

Obviously there must be contact for the news cycle to maintain itself. It's the degree of closeness that I'm skeptical about.

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A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

There are over 50 judges of the Superior Courts, and another 30 of the Dublin Circuit & District Court combined (the latter two are less relevant, because of the nature of their caseloads, but almost all of them give up ordinary socialising -- it's part of the job)

There are only 15 members of the Government. I'm not saying they should completely detach themselves from having a social life, that would be an unreasonable burden. But the idea of a Minister and a news/political journalist sitting down to dinner with senior political figures or having close personal relationships with them, and then talking out of the other side of their mouth about media objectivity and fake news, I mean it's a bit of a joke frankly.

Obviously there must be contact for the news cycle to maintain itself. It's the degree of closeness that I'm skeptical about.

Is there a particular case you are referring to where a Minister received favourable coverage after such an engagement?

Also, you still aren't comparing like with like given the number of times government ministers are on media platforms discussing issues compared to judges who never discuss active issues but only occasionally appear to discuss overarching legal topics.

In fact, ministers living in isolation and not speaking publicly on issues would be a much less attractive scenario than what exists now I suspect.

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Is there a particular case you are referring to where a Minister received favourable coverage after such an engagement?

I mean, that's an unreasonably high bar -- nobody can possibly answer that question except for the people involved. This is a city of a million people, I just think that of all the people for a Minister or a senior journalist to befriend, it's strange that they might choose one another. Surely in the interests of being seen to be impartial, you'd keep a professional distance.

As I said, nobody is talking about a complete detachment.

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A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I mean, that's an unreasonably high bar -- nobody can possibly answer that question except for the people involved. This is a city of a million people, I just think that of all the people for a Minister or a senior journalist to befriend, it's strange that they might choose one another. Surely in the interests of being seen to be impartial, you'd keep a professional distance.

As I said, nobody is talking about a complete detachment.

I thought you were implying that such a thing had been muted.

I think it's fair to acknowledge that many ministers and senior journalists would likely be of a similar age, and in today's world have attended 3rd level education.
Even if they were not doing the same course, there is a strong likelihood that their paths could have crossed at the various societies and get together that always occur both on and off campus and so a friendship is much more likely to develop than a 1 in a million chance or anything too dramatic.

Now, if Chris O'Donoghue comes back in to media and roles such as he has held in NT before, his work will have to be scrutinised pretty severely for a period.

Ursus Horribilis

Anton Savage wasn't presenting current affairs radio shows though. That's the difference.

BPKS

Ursus Horribilis wrote: »

Anton Savage wasn't presenting current affairs radio shows though. That's the difference.

He used to stand in for Cooper on TLW but I get your point. I think people didn't like Anton because who his parents were as opposed to his qualities as a radio presenter. I think the morning show on Today FM was my favourite ever radio show.

ButtersSuki

BPKS wrote: »

He used to stand in for Cooper on TLW but I get your point. I think people didn't like Anton because who his parents were as opposed to his qualities as a radio presenter. I think the morning show on Today FM was my favourite ever radio show.

I’d imagine there is a degree of that alright, but Google “Communications Clinic Kate Fitzgerald” for more info. on Savage.

I also doubt his radiating smugness and self satisfaction help either though.

HeidiHeidi

Not PK, but the last interview on The Breakfast Show.....

Did anyone else hear the IWS guy (not) talking about rip tides and water dangers?

Wtf???

That's up there with the worst corpse moments I've ever heard. Felt very sorry for the guy tbh.

Technocentral

Longest break Pats ever taken, a month or so now.

jeremyj1968

Jesus Chr1st. How many more weeks of Healy? It's beginning to feel like the works on the N7 at this stage.

Hector Savage

Blaming Trump for the El Paso attacks , hmmmm not mentioning anything about the Dayton's shooter being a big fan of Elisabeth Warren ... hmmmm

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Hector Savage wrote: »

Blaming Trump for the El Paso attacks , hmmmm not mentioning anything about the Dayton's shooter being a big fan of Elisabeth Warren ... hmmmm

The whole world is blaming Trump Hector.