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Hector Savage

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The whole world is blaming Trump Hector.

The whole world would be wrong, blaming Trump is a stupid simple solution.

Can't wait till a democrat is elected to the white house and all these mass shootings will just stop ...

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Hector Savage wrote: »

The whole world would be wrong, blaming Trump is a stupid simple solution.

Can't wait till a democrat is elected to the white house and all these mass shootings will just stop ...

Say a barman told a customer who had been in there drinking all night, that there were no Garda checkpoints in the road home and that the barman thought the guy was definitely sober enough to drive. Guy drives, crashes and knows kills someone.

That barman would be blamed for being significantly responsible (not ignoring that ultimately the drunk was to blame) but that wouldn't mean he was to blame for all drunk driving cases everywhere. See what I mean?

Also, your Democrats comment shows you're not looking at this objectively.

jeremyj1968

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The whole world is blaming Trump Hector.

I don't hear them blaming Antifa and the left for the other shooter. And not everybody is blaming Trump. Just cos Newstalk says Trump is to blame and RTE bring on their token Democrat Larry Donnelly to tell us that Republican Trump is to blame - that's does not mean it's true.

Hector Savage

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Say a barman told a customer who had been in there drinking all night, that there were no Garda checkpoints in the road home and that the barman thought the guy was definitely sober enough to drive. Guy drives, crashes and knows kills someone.

That barman would be blamed for being significantly responsible (not ignoring that ultimately the drunk was to blame) but that wouldn't mean he was to blame for all drunk driving cases everywhere. See what I mean?

Also, your Democrats comment shows you're not looking at this objectively.

I don't see the correllation ?
Where did Trumps "Rhetoric" include inciting to shoot people ??????

jeremyj1968

"Jonathan, we'll miss you, you're doing great" - Claudia Carroll, writer and orator of fiction.

Technocentral

Technocentral wrote: »

Longest break Pats ever taken, a month or so now.

He took similar breaks at RTE. I seem to remember Vincent Woods (doing a great job) standing in for him for about a month.

Jonathan Healy just announced that Pat will return in the coming week!

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Hector Savage wrote: »

I don't see the correllation ?
Where did Trumps "Rhetoric" include inciting to shoot people ??????

https://twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/1158025780233986048

Hector Savage

Pat off touring America in an SUV and will be back next week lecturing us on climate change ...

Hector Savage

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https://twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/status/1158025780233986048

Talking about ILLEGAL immigration, should politicians just not be allowed talk about this now cos some nutcase is gonna go off ?

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Hector Savage wrote: »

Pat off touring America in an SUV and will be back next week lecturing us on climate change ...

You'll miss Jonathan so, is that what you're saying?

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Hector Savage wrote: »

Talking about ILLEGAL immigration, should politicians just not be allowed talk about this now cos some nutcase is gonna go off ?

They should recognize the influence their words have on objectionable people.
Particularly when they are filtered through antagonising newsfeeds.
Practically every issue Trump speaks on is antagonistic.
Either through intent, carelessness, or inability.

See comments on Baltimore and the use of the word 'infested' for recent example.

kneemos

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They should recognize the influence their words have on objectionable people.
Particularly when they are filtered through antagonising newsfeeds.
Practically every issue Trump speaks on is antagonistic.
Either through intent, carelessness, or inability.

See comments on Baltimore and the use of the word 'infested' for recent example.

Doubt they care,maybe even hoping for the odd massacre. All of it appeals to their redneck base.

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kneemos wrote: »

Doubt they care,maybe even hoping for the odd massacre. All of it appeals to their redneck base.

The question was asked about 'politicians'.

1 - Most are appropriately diplomatic.
2 - Some are careless.
3 - Some don't care if they agitate things as their base will like it.
4 - Some do it on purpose.

Trump is mostly adopting behavior 3, when he isn't, he's on 4.

Hector Savage

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They should recognize the influence their words have on objectionable people.
Particularly when they are filtered through antagonising newsfeeds.
Practically every issue Trump speaks on is antagonistic.
Either through intent, carelessness, or inability.

See comments on Baltimore and the use of the word 'infested' for recent example.

Baltimore hasn't areas infested with rats / cockroaches ? - it does, this is an OBJECTIVE fact!

This is what annoys me is this denial of truth.

Bernie Sanders was saying the same thing about Baltimore before - as well as a previous mayor - are they inciting "racism" ?

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Hector Savage wrote: »

Baltimore hasn't areas infested with rats / cockroaches ? - it does, this is an OBJECTIVE fact!

This is what annoys me is this denial of truth.

Bernie Sanders was saying the same thing about Baltimore before - as well as a previous mayor - are they inciting "racism" ?

Can't believe I'm debating this.

How do you know the degree to which Baltimore is infested?
Do you think it is any more or less so than areas of NY, Trump's home town?

Denial of truth? Do you understand the word 'context' and how it might be relevant to consider it in this case.

serfboard

Hector Savage wrote: »

Where did Trumps "Rhetoric" include inciting to shoot people?

Even Trump isn't dumb enough to deliberately incite people to shoot others - what all fascists like himself have done is to de-humanize target groups of people (Hispanics, Muslims, Blacks, Jews), making them out as being sub-human ("these people are animals", as Trump said), thus giving people less moral qualms about attacking them - Trump is in a position of leadership, don't forget, unless you think he's an ineffective leader?

And specifically, Trump did encourage violence in at least one of his rallies:

CNN wrote:

"I'd like to punch him in the face," Trump said, remarking that a man disrupting his rally was escorted out with a smile on his face.
...
Trump claimed the protester was "nasty as hell" and accused the man of trying to punch the security officers forcing him out of the rally, though the man did not appear to be fighting off those officers.

"In the old days," Trump added, protesters would be "carried out on stretchers."

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See comments on Baltimore and the use of the word 'infested' for recent example.

Hector Savage wrote: »

Bernie Sanders was saying the same thing about Baltimore before

Show me a quote where Bernie Sanders says that Baltimore (or anywhere else) was "infested"?

This is a word that Trump deliberately uses to refer to areas where Black or Hispanic people are from - "infested", implying again that the people there are sub-human and should not be treated the same as other human beings.

serfboard

serfboard wrote: »

This is a word that Trump deliberately uses to refer to areas where Black or Hispanic people are from - "infested", implying again that the people there are sub-human and should not be treated the same as other human beings.

First thing that sprang to mind was a similar référence leading up to the genocide in Rwanda, with politicians calling on the people to cut down the Tall Trees, or to crush the cockroaches. I'm not likening Baltimore to genocide, just saying that this is a classic MO of dehumanising people who are intended to be the object of public hatred/ violence

I'm sure there were people in Rwanda at the time who would have insisted that General Bagosora's calls were entirely innocent

https://sites.google.com/a/moreaucatholic.org/rwandan-genocide/causes/symbolization

Hector Savage

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Can't believe I'm debating this.

How do you know the degree to which Baltimore is infested?
Do you think it is any more or less so than areas of NY, Trump's home town?

Denial of truth? Do you understand the word 'context' and how it might be relevant to consider it in this case.

I'm sure areas of NY/LA/Chicago/Any major city have bad areas that are infested with rodents.

They were getting into a fight over Baltimore, as the congressman cummings had made some remarks about Trump, he got back saying he should get his own city in order - which he had a point!

You could twist any negative comment about any place is racist - because of context.

I say Darndale is a sh1thole, am I anti traveller now ??

Hector Savage

serfboard wrote: »

Even Trump isn't dumb enough to deliberately incite people to shoot others - what all fascists like himself have done is to de-humanize target groups of people (Hispanics, Muslims, Blacks, Jews), making them out as being sub-human ("these people are animals", as Trump said), thus giving people less moral qualms about attacking them - Trump is in a position of leadership, don't forget, unless you think he's an ineffective leader?

And specifically, Trump did encourage violence in at least one of his rallies:



Show me a quote where Bernie Sanders says that Baltimore (or anywhere else) was "infested"?

This is a word that Trump deliberately uses to refer to areas where Black or Hispanic people are from - "infested", implying again that the people there are sub-human and should not be treated the same as other human beings.

I stopped reading at fascists ...
If you seriously actually think Trump is a fascist, then get help - you are mentally ill!!!

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Hector Savage wrote: »

I stopped reading at fascists ...
If you seriously actually think Trump is a fascist, then get help - you are mentally ill!!!

Trump isn't a fascist because that's a desire for a particular societal construct.
Trump doesn't think about society.
He thinks about what he wants for him and his family.

serfboard

Hector Savage wrote: »

get help - you are mentally ill!!!

... says a Trumpist :rolleyes: Project much?

BillyBird

Looking forward to Pat coming back, someone who can connect with the population at large.

(attachment from the latest Phoenix magazine)

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BillyBird wrote: »

Looking forward to Pat coming back, someone who can connect with the population at large.

(attachment from the latest Phoenix magazine)

Phoenix Magazine is a satirical publication, you know that don't you.

BillyBird

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Phoenix Magazine is a satirical publication, you know that don't you.

The Phoenix Magazine contains some satire, it's not all satire. You know that don't you?


You could have just Googled the quote and found the source. Pat said it in this interview.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/you-dont-want-your-sunblistered-body-on-instagram-pat-kenny-on-bord-pleanla-battle-38351862.html


Next you'll be telling me the Indo is satire, right?

BillyBird

BillyBird wrote: »

Looking forward to Pat coming back, someone who can connect with the population at large.

(attachment from the latest Phoenix magazine)

That is fcuking hilarious.

See also

"We just wander down the street and there are small cottages which local people have lived in all their lives. Everyone mixes when we have our lobster festival...."

Stunningly out of touch. Still love him though.

ButtersSuki

BillyBird wrote: »

The Phoenix Magazine contains some satire, it's not all satire. You know that don't you?


You could have just Googled the quote and found the source. Pat said it in this interview.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/you-dont-want-your-sunblistered-body-on-instagram-pat-kenny-on-bord-pleanla-battle-38351862.html


Next you'll be telling me the Indo is satire, right?

No, it's just shoyte (Maria Bailey investigative work excepted).

ButtersSuki

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That is fcuking hilarious.

See also

"We just wander down the street and there are small cottages which local people have lived in all their lives. Everyone mixes when we have our lobster festival...."

Stunningly out of touch. Still love him though.

It's Joe Duffy Man O De Peeple-esque, so to speak.

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BillyBird wrote: »

The Phoenix Magazine contains some satire, it's not all satire. You know that don't you?


You could have just Googled the quote and found the source. Pat said it in this interview.



https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/you-dont-want-your-sunblistered-body-on-instagram-pat-kenny-on-bord-pleanla-battle-38351862.html


Next you'll be telling me the Indo is satire, right?

Have to register. Not for a Niamh Horan article thanks.

Technocentral

Great to have ole Pat back, havent listened since day he left

dominatinMC

Technocentral wrote: »

Great to have ole Pat back, havent listened since day he left

Music to my ears this morning.