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The Pat Kenny Show

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    2smiggy wrote: »
    Luke is a bit too optimistic about everything. Maybe have him on once a week, and other times have more guests giving us more hard, realistic facts.
    TBF, a bit of optimism is badly needed to temper the constant barrage of negativity we are subjected to on daily basis from the media at large. Good news stories are few and far between, so I'm more than happy to indulge in them when given them. Light at the end of the tunnel is needed when the alternative is an infinite abyss.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    boardise wrote: »
    Strikes me this twice weekly 'update' with Luke O'Neill is just a bit too cushy. Most of it is just rehash and lacks any real focus -all possibilities are still in play so what do we learn ? Virus could surge -but it could also fizzle out. There could be a vaccine fairly soon -but then again maybe not...etc. Why pay someone to tell what we know already .
    Once a week would suffice .Nothing against the bold Luke -but he must be raking it in on the back of the pando.
    Apparently Newstalk pays a pittance to expert contributors. It came out after the Irish Times ban, when regular contributors from The Irish Times pointed out it would make absolutely no financial difference to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,823 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Apparently Newstalk pays a pittance to expert contributors. It came out after the Irish Times ban, when regular contributors from The Irish Times pointed out it would make absolutely no financial difference to them.

    I recall that.

    Can't remember who, but one contributor put up a photo of a cheque for €40.

    Apparently that's the standard fee for a phone in contribution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭Ahwell


    Allinall wrote: »
    I recall that.

    Can't remember who, but one contributor put up a photo of a cheque for €40.

    Apparently that's the standard fee for a phone in contribution.

    Conor Pope...

    https://twitter.com/conor_pope/status/916263816136134656/photo/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    On that, has Pat ever once had a debate on the ban of Irish Times staff appearing on Newstalk or has he just ignored the topic entirely?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    A - In what way did she not accept the outcome?
    B - Winning the Popular vote is hardly losing badly
    C - Dictator is an apt description for a President strongly advocating violence against their people for exercising their first amendment rights and using unarmed troops to arrest people without following procedures.
    D - This is the same person who pardoned a criminal convicted of crimes while working for that Pesident who threatened to flip on him.
    E - Shining a light on Trumps clusterf*ck might be boring or annoying for you guys, it isn't half as boring as annoying as watching people ignore the reality around him because they don't like the same things he doesn't like.

    There is a point about the exaggeration and often over reaction to Trump's actions and mad statements. Lots of dictator comments, Nazi comparisons etc.

    And then the same people call Trump a moron? So is he a moron or a clever dictator!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,914 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    There is a point about the exaggeration and often over reaction to Trump's actions and mad statements. Lots of dictator comments, Nazi comparisons etc.

    And then the same people call Trump a moron? So is he a moron or a clever dictator!

    Where does it say that a dictator cannot be a moron?

    Trump is a moron, and a wannabe dictator. Let's hope he is never successful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Mossie1975


    2smiggy wrote: »
    Luke is a bit too optimistic about everything. Maybe have him on once a week, and other times have more guests giving us more hard, realistic facts.

    I’ve heard him on different shows and a bit of positivity is rare in relation to Covid. Science would not have been a strong subject for me in school but he makes it user friendly for this dumbo. On one show last week after talking about current vaccines in the offing, a texter asked whether he would take one of the vaccines if given the chance. Without pausing he answered yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Where does it say that a dictator cannot be a moron?

    Trump is a moron, and a wannabe dictator. Let's hope he is never successful.

    The impression some give is that Trump has a "playbook" and is a scheming dictator in waiting.

    The same people then mock him for being an idiot with no brain.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 386 ✭✭Biafranlivemat


    There is a point about the exaggeration and often over reaction to Trump's actions and mad statements. Lots of dictator comments, Nazi comparisons etc.

    And then the same people call Trump a moron? So is he a moron or a clever dictator!

    Trump is a horrible human being, not because he is President, But because he is a REPUBLICAN president.
    When Bush was president the exact thing happened, he was also hated and made fun of, remember ‘village idiot’ ‘cowboy’ ‘Hitler’ ‘Nazis’
    When Biden wins in Nov, this nonsense will stop, until a Republican is elected again.


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  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trump is a horrible human being, not because he is President, But because he is a REPUBLICAN president.
    When Bush was president the exact thing happened, he was also hated and made fun of, remember ‘village idiot’ ‘cowboy’ ‘Hitler’ ‘Nazis’
    When Biden wins in Nov, this nonsense will stop, until a Republican is elected again.

    No, its not that he's a republican. There are many Republican presidents held in high regard by both sides. Eisenhower, Reagan, Ulysses S Grant, Roosevelt, not forgetting Lincoln.

    By Bush i assume you mean Bush junior. Are you saying if he was a Democrat we'd be praising his intelligence? Give me a break.

    I wouldn't like Trump no matter what party he ran with.

    In my eyes, defending him is to defend the indefensible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 143 ✭✭BillyBird


    There are many Republican presidents held in high regard by both sides. Eisenhower, Reagan, Ulysses S Grant, Roosevelt, not forgetting Lincoln.


    Reagan? Is he, really?


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BillyBird wrote: »
    Reagan? Is he, really?

    He's one of the most popular presidents.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    He's one of the most popular presidents.

    He may be now but when he was President he was treated pretty much like Trump is now by much of the media.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He may be now but when he was President he was treated pretty much like Trump is now by much of the media.


    I was replying to a comment that stated that Trump is hated because he's a Republican. That simply is not true. He's hated because he's a buffoon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭Technocentral


    He's one of the most popular presidents.

    Was responsible for funding horrible death squads in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala etc

    El Salvador: "Rudolph Rummel has estimated that from 1979 to 1987, government forces perpetrated between 12,000 and 25,000 democidal killings,[110] with UNHCR estimating higher total figures.[


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Trump is a horrible human being, not because he is President, But because he is a REPUBLICAN president.
    When Bush was president the exact thing happened, he was also hated and made fun of, remember ‘village idiot’ ‘cowboy’ ‘Hitler’ ‘Nazis’
    When Biden wins in Nov, this nonsense will stop, until a Republican is elected again.

    Is it not because he is American. Why do people focus on Republican/Democrats. For us in Europe, they are very similar parties with almost identical foreign policies.

    Obama sanctioned the bombing of 9 mainly Muslim countries. The problem is US policy, not Republican or Democrat.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was responsible for funding horrible death squads in El Salvador, Nicaragua and Guatemala etc

    El Salvador: "Rudolph Rummel has estimated that from 1979 to 1987, government forces perpetrated between 12,000 and 25,000 democidal killings,[110] with UNHCR estimating higher total figures.[


    I'm just stating what various polls say, it's not my own opinion.



    However, some positive thing:


    Cut taxes
    Created the Star Wars program
    Met Gorbachev many times leading to talks ultimately ending the Cold War
    Stood up to the unions
    Reduced the deficit
    Improved relations with China


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    I was replying to a comment that stated that Trump is hated because he's a Republican. That simply is not true. He's hated because he's a buffoon.

    Possibly because he is both a Republican and a buffoon , there is a natural antipathy in Ireland to Republican Presidents despite the fact that there really isn't a cigarette paper between Republicans and Democrats particularly on foreign policy where recent Democrats have a kill rate similar to or exceeding the Republicans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,914 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Possibly because he is both a Republican and a buffoon , there is a natural antipathy in Ireland to Republican Presidents despite the fact that there really isn't a cigarette paper between Republicans and Democrats particularly on foreign policy where recent Democrats have a kill rate similar to or exceeding the Republicans

    Whatever about 'kill rate' a horrible term when talking about the effects of war, I think there is a difference in whether or not a President was the instigator, or trying to bring it to completion.

    Clinton continued on in Somalia after Bush Senior had first sent troops there. He went in to the Balkans after Serb forces invaded UN safe zones and refused to get involved in Rwanda (which he later regretted) or and was successful in convincing a junta in Haiti to restore the ousted leader without actually having to use force.

    Obama inherited the Afghanistan war and the Iraq war as part of the wider 'War on Terror' campaign of Bush Junior. It was a US influenced NATO led force that went in to Libya during the Arab Spring. Obama reduced US soldier numbers in Afghanistan and declined from going in to Syria in spite of the US supporting the opposition. He reportedly increased the use of Drones significantly, something which it is said has grown further under Trump but Trump has removed some reporting paths meaning it is harder to know exactly what is happening.

    Hardly comparable to the Bush's who started 3 wars between them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    BillyBird wrote: »
    Reagan? Is he, really?

    amongst Americans, Reagan is second to FDR in terms of affection in the twentieth century

    He was perhaps the quintessential American, exuded optimism of the uniquely American kind

    His appeal didn't transfer abroad, I accept that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,711 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Mad_maxx wrote: »
    amongst Americans, Reagan is second to FDR in terms of affection in the twentieth century

    He was perhaps the quintessential American, exuded optimism of the uniquely American kind

    His appeal didn't transfer abroad, I accept that

    Sir Trevor Macdonald described him as the only man he ever met who could be king of any country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    golfball37 wrote: »
    Sir Trevor Macdonald described him as the only man he ever met who could be king of any country.

    not sure I'd agree there

    He was unmistakably American, made Americans feeling optimistic again but his manner didn't really cross borders in terms of appeal , you could envisage Obama becoming leader in numerous countries, not so Reagan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    I'm just stating what various polls say, it's not my own opinion.



    However, some positive thing:


    Cut taxes
    Created the Star Wars program
    Met Gorbachev many times leading to talks ultimately ending the Cold War
    Stood up to the unions
    Reduced the deficit
    Improved relations with China

    That is simply not true, he almost doubled it


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 886 ✭✭✭NasserShammaz


    Christ after pole vaulting across the kitchen to avoid hearing stick insect turbridy only to find smug overture king Healy is on ....radio is no go zone between 9 - 1 at the moment. Whens pat Kenny back

    Virtue king


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Cole


    Regardless of the different points of view/arguments, it was truly beautiful hearing the spokeswoman for the hospital consultants verbally slap Healy this morning...he's unbearable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Jesus that Gary Gannon is some tool. That’s the first time I’ve heard him speak and all I can say is thank christ he’s not in government. Himself and Healy on at the same time was complete self righteous overload.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,010 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    Jonathan Healy and a “topic” around rape and consent, must be, more than, a few white knuckles and, furious, note-taking going on right now.

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,914 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Why are so many people triggered by any radio show host talking about doing things in a way that benefits others or shows compassion for someone other than yourself?
    It used to be seen as being decent, now, at least here its, a judgement or slur aimed at someone.

    Do people really want a world where everyone is only motivated for absolute selfish reasons?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 941 ✭✭✭Typer Monkey


    Cole wrote: »
    Regardless of the different points of view/arguments, it was truly beautiful hearing the spokeswoman for the hospital consultants verbally slap Healy this morning...he's unbearable.

    He has such a tabloid approach to topics. He was attempting, badly, to stir the pot and he got rightly put in his place. He's more in the vein of a Niall Boylan/Joe Duffy presenter than the tone Pat Kenny usually sets, which is why I'm so surprised that he's the regular choice for cover. He doesn't have the required smarts to fill in for Pat in my opinion and the radio goes off when I hear him on


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