The Pat Kenny Show

gormdubhgorm

Ol' Donie wrote: »

Hmm.

Have you ever heard of climate change?

You do realise how much of a cod and a game it is?
Even Ireland purchased 86m worth of carbon credits last year.

https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-buying-carbon-credits-4681370-Jun2019/

It is also open to fraud:

https://www.politico.eu/article/fraud-puts-the-brake-on-the-emissions-market/

elperello

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Cool - spokesperson for Brendan O Carroll in the house . When his view is a constant tirade against all things trump Then no , I don’t think he’s well placed at all . He lives in a state that majority voted for Trump so maybe he could spend some time with his neighbours to get a better understanding of the situation .its the same rant every time and that was the only reason he was asked to speak .[/QUOTE]


I'm not a spokesperson for BO'C.

You just don't agree with what he had to say, that's ok. He was there to give his opinion not as a journalist.

Florida was all to play for and Trump ended up winning with 51% so it's hardly much of a point complaining about an amateur pundit not getting the result right.

PopePalpatine

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

You do realise how much of a cod and a game it is?
Even Ireland purchased 86m worth of carbon credits last year.

https://www.thejournal.ie/ireland-buying-carbon-credits-4681370-Jun2019/

It is also open to fraud:

https://www.politico.eu/article/fraud-puts-the-brake-on-the-emissions-market/

Wow, that's shocking. I hope you find a nice comfy chair to sit down for this.

serfboard

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I know the majority of people in Ireland will be unaffected by the result.

How do you know?

gormdubhgorm

serfboard wrote: »

How do you know?

Common sense, as Ireland is mainly affected by its government in DE and Brussels.

What has changed in Ireland in the last four years as a result of Trump?

A bit of excitement and global interest in Doonbeg, and a good few hysterical anti-Trump posters on the boards.ie politics threads.

Tell me how

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Common sense, as Ireland is mainly affected by its government in DE and Brussels.

What has changed in Ireland in the last four years as a result of Trump?

A bit of excitement and global interest in Doonbeg, and a good few hysterical anti-Trump posters on the boards.ie politics threads.

Peter Casey wouldn't have even been on the ballot in the last Presidential election but for Trump showing that even without a plan or ability, using the right 'topics' can make people think someone is worth giving a chance to.

The growth of the overt-nationalists decrying the wearing of masks, immigration and the media also found their voice because of Trump. A small voice, but much more than it was in the past.

Everyone on the planet is either going to be affected by or is already seeing the effects of climate change. Trump pulling the US out of the Paris accord undermined the attempts to move towards a global cohesive message.

meeeeh

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Common sense, as Ireland is mainly affected by its government in DE and Brussels.

What has changed in Ireland in the last four years as a result of Trump?

A bit of excitement and global interest in Doonbeg, and a good few hysterical anti-Trump posters on the boards.ie politics threads.

That's just complete ignorance of world politics. Brexit deal has much better chance to go through if Biden is president. If it doesn't, Ireland has much better allay in Biden. There is no secret Tories were not overly enthusiastic about Biden in White House because they have very little relationship with him while meeting Queen was enough to get Trump on their side. Coupled with Trump's dislike of EU it very much is in important who is in WH.

However it is a mistake to think Trump speaks only to nutters. Those who put economy as the most important factor voted for Trump. He also increased his Latino vote.

NIMAN

So Trump is to blame for some numpties in Ireland refusing to wear a mask in the supermarket?

I've heard it all now.

Cole

John Simpson trying to dial down Pat's hyperbole a bit. And the irony of Pat talking about the "echo chamber" and "partisan" nature of Fox and CNN (I agree), but yet he regularly references CNN as a source for his many of his Trump rants.

I'm delighted that Trump is (likely) to lose, but Pat's own smug echo chamber mindset is really irritating to listen to.

Luke ONeill CANNOT WAIT to blow about his prize.

meeeeh

Trump is the result of fractured society. So is SF in Ireland. It would be a mistake to think Trump losing the election will resolve structural issues in society that voted him in.

Cole

Oh ffs Pat...play us a bit of the same deranged bias from CNN now and comment on that too.

generalgerry

God Neil O'Dowd doesn't not sound too healthy - does he have the flu or something.

Technocentral

generalgerry wrote: »

God Neil O'Dowd doesn't not sound too healthy - does he have the flu or something.

Always a welcome guest, very incisive analysis.

HeidiHeidi

generalgerry wrote: »

God Neil O'Dowd doesn't not sound too healthy - does he have the flu or something.

I thought exactly the same, missed the introduction and could not work out who it was - I was shocked when I heard it was him. He sounded like someone in his 80's.

gormdubhgorm

PBut

meeeeh wrote: »

That's just complete ignorance of world politics. Brexit deal has much better chance to go through if Biden is president. If it doesn't, Ireland has much better allay in Biden. There is no secret Tories were not overly enthusiastic about Biden in White House because they have very little relationship with him while meeting Queen was enough to get Trump on their side. Coupled with Trump's dislike of EU it very much is in important who is in WH.

However it is a mistake to think Trump speaks only to nutters. Those who put economy as the most important factor voted for Trump. He also increased his Latino vote.

It is not like back in the 90's when Bill Clinton was integral to the peace process. If Biden suddenly takes a hands on approach with Brexit I stand corrected. The truth is bar FDI Ireland and America's relationship is mostly portrayed in wishy washy, and misty eyed, intangible terms. Particularly when it is a Democrat President. You only have to look at the 'diddley di do' narrative Niall O'Dowd comes out with as he talks up Biden's Irish connection. He always spins the same records. And people know what he will say before he says it.

hotmail.com

Tell me how wrote: »

Peter Casey wouldn't have even been on the ballot in the last Presidential election but for Trump showing that even without a plan or ability, using the right 'topics' can make people think someone is worth giving a chance to.

The growth of the overt-nationalists decrying the wearing of masks, immigration and the media also found their voice because of Trump. A small voice, but much more than it was in the past.

Everyone on the planet is either going to be affected by or is already seeing the effects of climate change. Trump pulling the US out of the Paris accord undermined the attempts to move towards a global cohesive message.

Peter Casey got 23% in a very low turnout election.

Anti immigration is not around because of Trump. Look up our 2004 Referendum on citizenship.

Not everyone is influenced by what happens in America.

Technocentral

hotmail.com wrote: »

Not everyone is influenced by what happens in America.

Not true, far right here are definitely influenced and emboldened by the likes of Trump, the small but active fascist element here definitely are, (National Party, Yellow Vests etc)

gormdubhgorm

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hotmail.com wrote: »

Peter Casey got 23% in a very low turnout election.

Anti immigration is not around because of Trump. Look up our 2004 Referendum on citizenship.

Not everyone is influenced by what happens in America.

Technocentral wrote: »

Not true, far right here are definitely influenced and emboldened by the likes of Trump, the small but active fascist element here definitely are, (National Party, Yellow Vests etc)

The poster above said 'not everyone' and did not say 'no one'. There are always few fringe off the wall people who will be around regardless. In my opinion to pretend Trump has a massive impact on Ireland is laughable. Sure he even called Doonbeg 'small potatoes' ! The USA presidental election for those outside America is just entertainment for most. Like watching a big sporting event. No significant impact to the average fellas life, particularly in a small country like Ireland.

Shouldn't Ireland be more worried about EU issues? It should be covered more IMO. How many people can name their MEP's or even 10 leaders of EU states? Yet EU law takes precedence over Irish law and is more likely to affect the average person.

meeeeh

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

PBut

It is not like back in the 90's when Bill Clinton was integral to the peace process. If Biden suddenly takes a hands on approach with Brexit I stand corrected. The truth is bar FDI Ireland and America's relationship is mostly portrayed in wishy washy, and misty eyed, intangible terms. Particularly when it is a Democrat President. You only have to look at the 'diddley di do' narrative Niall O'Dowd comes out with as he talks up Biden's Irish connection. He always spins the same records. And people know what he will say before he says it.

There is no secret that Biden is closer to EU than Trump was. Boris was also considered mini Trump by democrats and Kenyan remarks about Obama that he made didn't go down well. It's not about interfering with Brexit, UK is hoping for pr boost that trade deal with US would bring. that's less likely under Biden and misty eyed or not, Good Friday agreement is considered major foreign policy achievement. They will be much more hostile to UK internal market bill machinations that Trump was.

hotmail.com

Technocentral wrote: »

Not true, far right here are definitely influenced and emboldened by the likes of Trump, the small but active fascist element here definitely are, (National Party, Yellow Vests etc)

What does emboldened mean?

There is no far right movement in Ireland, you're talking about a handful, literally a few dozen people.

hotmail.com

meeeeh wrote: »

There is no secret that Biden is closer to EU than Boris was. Boris was also considered mini Trump by democrats and Kenyan remarks about Obama that he made didn't go down well. It's not about interfering with Brexit, UK is hoping for pr boost that trade deal with US would bring. that's less likely under Biden and misty eyed or not, Good Friday agreement is considered major foreign policy achievement. They will be much more hostile to UK internal market bill machinations that Trump was.

This is also an Irish misconception.

The Americans are and always have been pro British (English).

They regard themselves as cultural and political cousins, Democrat or Republican. Even JFK was more British leaning than any Irish leaning.

Technocentral

Oh no! The shrill fascist twat is back!

Cole

Put any glass objects away...Seth heading for top pitch soon.

Technocentral

Pat tearing him apart.

Daz_

Technocentral wrote: »

Oh no! The shrill fascist twat is back!

Nice to have another view apart from the regular left wing Democrat Love in

Technocentral

Daz_ wrote: »

Nice to have another view apart from the regular left wing Democrat Love in

Nothing nice about fascists mate!

Daz_

Technocentral wrote: »

Nothing nice about fascists mate!

Not your mate . And you won’t stop my opinion .

Technocentral

Daz_ wrote: »

Not your mate . And you won’t stop my opinion .

Say what you want!

Technocentral

Fcuk, imagine being that twats student, he hasn't a clue and is a complete liar in self denial