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    #92
    ledgebag1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭ledgebag1


    Apologies if this has addressed earlier, but why are the meters not installed in our houses Apartments. All over Europe the houses/ Apartments have the meter inside the dwelling. This is due to the fact that most houses lose a lot of water through the underground pipes. The meter within the house gives a true reading of the water used


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    #93
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    ledgebag1 wrote: »
    Apologies if this has addressed earlier, but why are the meters not installed in our houses Apartments. All over Europe the houses/ Apartments have the meter inside the dwelling. This is due to the fact that most houses lose a lot of water through the underground pipes. The meter within the house gives a true reading of the water used

    Would that cause disruption/damage inside the house?


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    #94
    brian_t
    Registered Users Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭brian_t


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Would that cause disruption/damage inside the house?

    It would significantly add to the expense of the installation too.

    Could those meters be read without accessing the appartments.


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    #95
    Ken.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Private company would have no right to enter your house either to install or read it. That's why the electric meter is a box on your outside wall.
    Also imagine the uproar(rightly so) if they did put it inside and it leaked wrecking someone's house.


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    #96
    brian_t
    Registered Users Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭brian_t


    Apartments will not be metered during phase 1 of the meter installation programme, therefore apartments will be issued with an unmetered bill.

    Irish Water is currently looking at options for further phases of the metering programme. Apartments will be a part of this analysis.
    Meters can be read by a 'drive by' method rather than by an individual visit by a meter reader. This means we won't need to enter your property to take a reading and we can read them more efficiently
    http://www.water.ie/billing-and-metering/metering-explained/


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    #97
    ledgebag1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭ledgebag1


    ken wrote: »
    Private company would have no right to enter your house either to install or read it. That's why the electric meter is a box on your outside wall.
    Also imagine the uproar(rightly so) if they did put it inside and it leaked wrecking someone's house.

    Hi, most electric meters, in fact all are inside the houses in my area and require you to be there so the meter can be read. This is why ESB are rolling out digital meters in our area these will be read through broadband or remotely.

    The meter is only measuring the volume of water used and does not dictate the flow so I dont think a leak would be an issue etc.

    In relation to cost, it would probably cost less than public liability insuring, digging up all the footpaths in the area than installing a meter closer to the house.

    The meter could be installed just inside your door or on the front of the house much like my electricity.

    In countries like Spain for instance all the Gas, Electricity and Water Meters are inside the house and apartments.

    The reason I would prefer this? My house is 40 Years old and the pipe between the Meter and house, my be cracked or leaking? The county council have no intention of checking this, so the reading of water I use may not be the same that I receive.

    I know it sounds maybe pedantic, and I actually have no problem paying for my water as long as I get what I am paying for


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    #98
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,765 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    ESB no longer allow new internal meters - them being installed indoors on old installs doesn't count for much. Spanish utility firms are not the most competent either to be comparing to.


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    #99
    brian_t
    Registered Users Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭brian_t


    ledgebag1 wrote: »
    The reason I would prefer this? My house is 40 Years old and the pipe between the Meter and house, my be cracked or leaking? The county council have no intention of checking this, so the reading of water I use may not be the same that I receive.

    I know it sounds maybe pedantic, and I actually have no problem paying for my water as long as I get what I am paying for

    The County Council would say - Why should they be responsible for leaks that occur on your property, it's not their problem it's yours.


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    #100
    ledgebag1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭ledgebag1


    brian_t wrote: »
    The County Council would say - Why should they be responsible for leaks that occur on your property, it's not their problem it's yours.


    Right so you can see the reason I would prefer the meter within the house?

    Spanish firms not being competent? Right throughout Europe meters are within the dwelling.


    Anyway, as much as I would prefer that its not going to happen, so lets move on


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    #101
    ledgebag1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭ledgebag1


    MYOB wrote: »
    ESB no longer allow new internal meters - them being installed indoors on old installs doesn't count for much. Spanish utility firms are not the most competent either to be comparing to.

    Mine was installed not so long ago? Is there any literature on that or a link I would like to look into it thanks


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    #102
    brian_t
    Registered Users Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭brian_t


    ledgebag1 wrote: »
    Mine was installed not so long ago? Is there any literature on that or a link I would like to look into it thanks

    http://www.esb.ie/esbnetworks/en/downloads/metering_specification_rev_9.pdf


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    #103
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,765 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    ledgebag1 wrote: »
    Mine was installed not so long ago? Is there any literature on that or a link I would like to look into it thanks

    A replacement != a new install.

    brian_t has provided the requirements for new meters.


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    #104
    ledgebag1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭ledgebag1


    Hmmm mine is inside the porch went in before I bought the place, will get onto them so. Thank for the link


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    #105
    ledgebag1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 334 ✭✭ledgebag1


    I see 2005 on the Doc, must have been before that, pheeew, anyway way off topic, apologies folks


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    #106
    mcgovern
    Registered Users Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭mcgovern


    Does anyone know if they are allowed block access to your house? I can't get into my driveway as they have cordoned it off.


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    #107
    Moonbeam
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,953 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    MYOB wrote: »
    ESB no longer allow new internal meters - them being installed indoors on old installs doesn't count for much. Spanish utility firms are not the most competent either to be comparing to.

    Ours is inside our house,wish it was not.


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    #108
    Moonbeam
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    mcgovern wrote: »
    Does anyone know if they are allowed block access to your house? I can't get into my driveway as they have cordoned it off.

    They did in Meadowbrook they even blocked cars in,I would tell them you need access or remove te barricades.


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    #109
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    mcgovern wrote: »
    Does anyone know if they are allowed block access to your house? I can't get into my driveway as they have cordoned it off.

    They did in Silken Vale as well. Would be needed if it hasn't set yet.


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    #110
    mcgovern
    Registered Users Posts: 4,267 ✭✭✭mcgovern


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    They did in Meadowbrook they even blocked cars in,I would tell them you need access or remove te barricades.

    Unfortunately they also left a massive uncovered hole. Part of my road is completely inaccessible at the moment, and because there are so many driveways blocked, there is no parking anywhere.
    Crazy.


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    #111
    L1011
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    Moonbeam wrote: »
    Ours is inside our house,wish it was not.

    Your house is as old as mine though ;)


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    #112
    dublinbhoy88
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 503 ✭✭✭dublinbhoy88


    I live in an appartment block, will there be an individual meter for each appartment ?


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    #113
    guil
    Registered Users Posts: 10,495 ✭✭✭✭guil


    MYOB wrote: »
    Your house is as old as mine though ;)
    what happened with all the cars covered in dust when your estate was done, some of them looked like they had being in a quarry


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    #114
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    guil wrote: »
    what happened with all the cars covered in dust when your estate was done, some of them looked like they had being in a quarry

    A shower of rain will sort that out.


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    #115
    guil
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    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    A shower of rain will sort that out.
    it was about 6 weeks ago and would you like your car covered in heavy dust and be told sure a shower of rain will sort it.


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    #116
    wirelessdude01
    Registered Users Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    guil wrote: »
    it was about 6 weeks ago and would you like your car covered in heavy dust and be told sure a shower of rain will sort it.

    Well in all honesty I probably would have washed it if it was that bad. In the part of my estate people generally moved their cars out of the way while the work was going on.


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    #117
    Moonbeam
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    guil wrote: »
    what happened with all the cars covered in dust when your estate was done, some of them looked like they had being in a quarry

    None of ours were it was just the road,they also did not black access here as the stopcock is between the houses.


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    #118
    brian_t
    Registered Users Posts: 6,695 ✭✭✭brian_t


    dublinbhoy88 wrote: »
    I live in an appartment block, will there be an individual meter for each appartment ?

    Not yet anyway.

    See post #96 on page 7


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    #119
    Snoopy1
    Registered Users Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Snoopy1


    My estate is getting done this week. It looks like everybody's drives were blocked on another road when i went to work monday morning


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    #120
    kja1888
    Registered Users Posts: 92 ✭✭kja1888


    This crowd arrived on my road (in Celbridge) on Tuesday. They've got every driveway blocked, some since they arrived, and they wont be unblocked tonight. I had to report one of the clowns for driving a van and trailer around on the green. In fairness, GMC rang back apologising, saying unfortunately the "driver" wasn't able to get back out without doing the rally-track performance. They left one house with no mains water after they left last night, without checking before they packed up.

    Their work seems tidy enough though, and they haven't left any piles of rubble or mess anywhere.


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    #121
    dub_dan
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭dub_dan


    Where abouts in Celbridge are you? I'm living here too, haven't heard anything yet about my meter!


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