Bridging the Vodafone HG658c

Anto318

Hi All,

I hope you might be able to help. I've basic IT knowledge and I'm hoping to setup more parental controls on my home wifi.

To increase parental control of my wifi, I'm trying to replace my existing vodafone modem/router with a Belkin AC1200 (http://www.belkin.com/us/support-product?pid=01t80000003L8FDAA0).

I currently have fibre broadband with Vodafone. The master socket is a 2 port faceplate with a dedicated "computer" port which I'm assuming is a broadband filtered port. Currently a RJ11 cable is connected to this phone line and directly into the Vodafone router.

Firstly, I just swapped out the vodafone router and popped the Belkin in its place. I connect the RJ11 cable into the "modem" port of the belkin router and kicked off the automatic setup. This did not work so I followed the vodafone forum steps (https://support.vodafone.ie/system/...UAGE=en&COUNTRY=ie&USERTYPE=1&ARTICLE_ID=2266) and tried to configure the Belkin router as PPPoE etc but this did not work either.

Could anyone advise on if it's possible to use my Belkin router as a replacement for the vodafone router. How can I go about setting it up correctly? Can the belkin router be connected directly to the phone line? If not, can I use the vodafone router as just a modem and use the Belkin router for wifi management etc? If this is possible, could you advice on how to do this.

Thanks in advance,
Anto318

guil

Anto318 wrote: »

Hi All,

I hope you might be able to help. I've basic IT knowledge and I'm hoping to setup more parental controls on my home wifi.

To increase parental control of my wifi, I'm trying to replace my existing vodafone modem/router with a Belkin AC1200 (http://www.belkin.com/us/support-product?pid=01t80000003L8FDAA0).

I currently have fibre broadband with Vodafone. The master socket is a 2 port faceplate with a dedicated "computer" port which I'm assuming is a broadband filtered port. Currently a RJ11 cable is connected to this phone line and directly into the Vodafone router.

Firstly, I just swapped out the vodafone router and popped the Belkin in its place. I connect the RJ11 cable into the "modem" port of the belkin router and kicked off the automatic setup. This did not work so I followed the vodafone forum steps (https://support.vodafone.ie/system/...UAGE=en&COUNTRY=ie&USERTYPE=1&ARTICLE_ID=2266) and tried to configure the Belkin router as PPPoE etc but this did not work either.

Could anyone advise on if it's possible to use my Belkin router as a replacement for the vodafone router. How can I go about setting it up correctly? Can the belkin router be connected directly to the phone line? If not, can I use the vodafone router as just a modem and use the Belkin router for wifi management etc? If this is possible, could you advice on how to do this.

Thanks in advance,
Anto318

The modem port on that router is to connect to a separate modem. It can't replace the huawei.

Follow this advice but start at 4.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=89573792&postcount=98

Anto318

Thanks for the reply Guil but I still haven't had any luck. What I've tried this evening is as follows:

VF router connected to the phone line.
Disabled DHCP (VF1.png)
I've update the VF WAN settings to PPPoE_Bridged (VF2.png)
Disabled WiFi
I've submitted and power cycled

On the Belkin Router, I configured the LAN setup for PPPoE (BK1.png)

I've then configured the LAN settings on the Belkin (BK2.png)

I've used the WAN port on the VF router and the LAN port on the Belkin but still not joy.

Any help/advice you could give would be really appreciated as I can see what I'm doing wrong from the steps outlined in this thread.

Thanks,
Anto318

guil

You need to plug the Ethernet into a LAN port on Vodafone and into the WAN port on the belkin.

Anto318

guil wrote: »

You need to plug the Ethernet into a LAN port on Vodafone and into the WAN port on the belkin.

The Belkin router only has 4 Ethernet ports and 1 modem port. I had tried connecting to this modem port also but didn't have any luck.

imnorobot

Have you tried
vodafone@vodafone.ie as the username
broadband as the password

guil

imnorobot wrote: »

Have you tried
vodafone@vodafone.ie as the username
broadband as the password

That only works on adsl I think.

guil

Anto318 wrote: »

The Belkin router only has 4 Ethernet ports and 1 modem port. I had tried connecting to this modem port also but didn't have any luck.

The modem port is the wan port. Run an rj45 from any LAN port on the Vodafone to the modem port on the belkin and set up the connection again. Make sure you have the serial number right. Check it on the back of the vf router. The PPPOE username is SN@vfiefttc.ie and the password is broadband.

imnorobot

Nah bridged my vf hg658c a while back with a netgear running ddwrt as a test

Also post #26

gtg60 wrote: »

Got my new VDSL router working directly with Vodafone fibre, see here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057099603

Interesting to note that the Username seems to have changed format, it's now:
serialnumber@vodafone.ie
but curiously vodafone@vodafone.ie works fine.

Also it would only take a couple of seconds to try

Roen

Hi,

Just to confirm that this hack is no longer needed? I seem to have the options to bridge when I log in as admin. Can't post a screenshot just now but will later.

guil

No bridging was enabled as an option with a software update.

Roen

guil wrote: »

No bridging was enabled as an option with a software update.

Cheers Guil. Appreciate it.

CSmithIO

I've been looking at replacing my VF modem for a while now.

Am I correct in saying the TP Link Archer C7/C8/C9 are all just for bridging from the VF Modem and that the likes of the TP Link Archer VR600 would be to replace the VF modem completely or could also be used for bridging?

What would be my best option, all I would do is regularly stream online, netflix, PS4 etc?

From reading this morning, bridging seems to be supported, replacing the modem not so much but can be done.

My budget would be about €150, could anyone advise me what I'd be best doing?

ctlsleh

Now that VF are running VoIP, i need to figure out how to set up voice on my router that's sitting behind a VF bridged modem?
anyone been able to do that?

Surfn

when bridging the Vodafone HG658c to asus rt-ac68u, do i use the wan port on the HG658c to connect to the wan on the asus rt-ac68u or do i use 1 of the 4 lan ports

Surfn

Surfn wrote: »

when bridging the Vodafone HG658c to asus rt-ac68u, do i use the wan port on the HG658c to connect to the wan on the asus rt-ac68u or do i use 1 of the 4 lan ports

Any LAN port on HG658c to WAN port on Asus.

Surfn

Karsini wrote: »

Any LAN port on HG658c to WAN port on Asus.

thanks for that i thought to myself it would be wan on hg658c to wan on on the asus

Surfn

is there a way to get vodafone voice working now that i have the asus rt-ac68u

Irish fanboy

Hey guys.
I'm looking for some advice setting up a ASUS VDSL modem router with Vodafone fiber.
Vodafone stipulated that a g. Vector enabled modem was required but won't give out any settings.
I have managed to connect to the Internet, ironically, without g. vector enabled but the speed isn't fantastic. I'm getting roughly 50mb/s as apposed to 75 on the Vodafone router.
When I enable g . vectoring on the ASUS. The modem won't connect to the Internet.
Is there any other settings that I have to change to get it working correctly??
The model of the ASUS is a DSL ac68u
VDSL compatible.
Thanks in advance
Stephen.

Aidan045

@irish fanboy
Any chance you can post your method and settings used to connect the Asus directly.
I have one and was looking to do the same.
For some reason since the introduction of Voip I can't seem to bridge from the Hg658c.

Irish fanboy

Aidan045 wrote: »

@irish fanboy
Any chance you can post your method and settings used to connect the Asus directly.
I have one and was looking to do the same.
For some reason since the introduction of Voip I can't seem to bridge from the Hg658c.

The ASUS I have has a built in VDSL modem so it doesn't require the original VF modem. I tried bridging the heuwei but the results were terrible.
I got the ASUS working by following the basic setup and turning on G. Vector in the administration settings under DSL.
Reboot and it will connect. Getting great speeds now.

Aidan045

Irish fanboy wrote: »

The ASUS I have has a built in VDSL modem so it doesn't require the original VF modem. I tried bridging the heuwei but the results were terrible.
I got the ASUS working by following the basic setup and turning on G. Vector in the administration settings under DSL.
Reboot and it will connect. Getting great speeds now.

Thanks for the reply and info but I just realised you have the dsl ac68u and I have the rt ac68u.
Thanks anyway.

Aidan045

So back to bridging the HG658C. Has anybody else done this. I followed an earlier post and it worked before but now when I uncheck tr069 and change it to PPPoE_Bridged the red light comes on the Hg658c and stays on.

Shapey Fiend

I've been trying to get this to work for 3 hours...

I've got an ASUS RT66U.

The only thing I can see that's different versus the examples posted is in WAN settings the PTM_INTERNET_B_VID_10 line is showing as Disconnected not Connected. The only Connected line is ATM_TR069_VOIP_INTERNET etc.

Trying to log in on the ASUS with serialnum@vodafone.ie or vodafone@vodafone.ie is just timing out.

edit: lol got it working 2 mins after posting this. Should have changed the line that said Connected, instead of being so literal minded. I'm a derp.

Aidan045

This is the Software version V100R001C172B227
and this is what i see in Basic/Wan
ATM_TR069_VOIP_INTERNET_R_8_35 IP_Routed (PPP) Disconnected Enable
PTM_VOIP_IPTV_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (IP) Connected IPv4 Enable
PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (PPP) Connected IPv4 Enable
INTERNET_R_USB IP_Routed (PPP) Disconnected Enable
ETH_VOIP_IPTV_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (IP) Disconnected Disable
ETH_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (PPP) Disconnected Enable

An earlier post says
(1. Reset Vodafone router with paperclip in reset button. Disconnect LAN cable from your primary router. The firmware update was pushed to my router almost immediately but might take longer for others; it triggers a reboot. You can confirm you have the latest firmware in step 3.
2. Connect your PC to Vodafone router via LAN or Wifi and logon as normal using vodafone / vodafone
3. Go into Status => Device to ensure the software version ends in B214
4. Go into Basic => LAN and disable DHCP server
5. Go into Basic => WAN, select second item in list (PTM_INTERNET). (Make a note of your Vodafone username here if you hadn't before - you'll need it when logging into PPPoE on your primary router.) Change connection type to PPPoE_Bridged. Uncheck TR069 and VOIP options.
6. Click Submit and power cycle the router for good measure.
7. Connect Ethernet lan 1 port on voda router to WAN port on primary router. Primary router should have DHCP server enabled.
8. Disable voda wifi by pressing Wifi button on voda router (green light should go out).
9. Your primary router should now be connecting to your vodafone router (now just a dumb modem) via PPPoE using your Vodafone username from earlier. Password is broadband.")

So when i get to step 5 i have an extra line for voip
In it IPTV is checked and VOIP is checked
In the PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 line INTERNET is checked and TR069 is checked
So my question is which boxes should be unchecked and which should be checked because when i uncheck TRO69 I get a red light and no internet.

Conar

Aidan045 wrote: »

This is the Software version ....

Sorry for not replying earlier I had to get a chance to connect to my vodafone router to check.
On my earlier software version all WAN connections are enabled.
The one you want to set to bridged though is PTM_INTERNET_B_VID_10

So click on it and underneath in the box that opens tick 'WAN connection Enable'

SERVICE LIST tick INTERNET and at don't use VOIP so don't have that selected but perhaps try without first and see if Internet is working fine then go back and enable VOIP

Then simply set Connection Type to PPPoE_Bridged.

Hit submit.

PTM_INTERNET_B_VID_10 is for VDSL ("fibre") connections. ATM_TR069_VOIP_INTERNET is for regular ADSL or ADSL2+ connections. So the one you bridge depends on the service type you have.

Aidan045

I have a fibre connection
but with the new software version the two lines below are different and are the only ones connected

PTM_VOIP_IPTV_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (IP) Connected
PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (PPP) Connected

In the PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 line if i dont uncheck TRO69 and set to PPPoE bridge mode i get the error message (Service should be INTERNET or SHARENET for bridge-type connection.)
if I do uncheck TRO69 and set to PPPoE bridge mode I get a red light and no internet connection and also have to hard reset to log in again.

Conar

Aidan045 wrote: »

I have a fibre connection
but with the new software version the two lines below are different and are the only ones connected

PTM_VOIP_IPTV_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (IP) Connected
PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 IP_Routed (PPP) Connected

In the PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 line if i dont uncheck TRO69 and set to PPPoE bridge mode i get the error message (Service should be INTERNET or SHARENET for bridge-type connection.)
if I do uncheck TRO69 and set to PPPoE bridge mode I get a red light and no internet connection and also have to hard reset to log in again.

Can you send a screenshot of STATUS/WAN?

Aidan045

Here it is

Conar

Aidan045 wrote: »

In the PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 line if i dont uncheck TRO69 and set to PPPoE bridge mode i get the error message (Service should be INTERNET or SHARENET for bridge-type connection.)
if I do uncheck TRO69 and set to PPPoE bridge mode I get a red light and no internet connection and also have to hard reset to log in again.

K. Yeah that's quite different to mine but I would assume that PTM_TR069_INTERNET_R_VID_10 is the correct one as it's showing as having a dns server configured against it so must be your Vdsl connection.

So when you uncheck TR069 and set it to PPPoE bridge mode. The light goes red but are you then connecting the new router to one of the Hg658c LAN ports and configuring PPPoE there and initiating the connection?

(sorry if I'm just going over what you've done.)

Also what IP address have you set for your Hg658c and what have you set for your Asus router?
Which port are you going into on your Asus router?

Aidan045

First off i want to say thanks for taking the time to help.
secondly im a complete plank
After reading your reply (are you then connecting the new router to one of the Hg658c LAN ports )
i saw the problem i had it connected from the red wan port on the HG658 and not as you pointed out the lan port
it now works perfectly.
so once again sorry and thanks.

Conar

Aidan045 wrote: »

First off i want to say thanks for taking the time to help.
secondly im a complete plank
After reading your reply (are you then connecting the new router to one of the Hg658c LAN ports )
i saw the problem i had it connected from the red wan port on the HG658 and not as you pointed out the lan port
it now works perfectly.
so once again sorry and thanks.

No worries. Glad to hear it's working. These things can be frustrating when they go wrong and it's easy to overlook something.

pjjanas

Hi there, I'm wondering if the Asus RT-AC87U router will be compatible with the bridged HG658c? I don't have a fibre connection so i just have the ordinary dsl connection with VF.
Also if it is compatible should I use the 'serial@
vfiefttc.ie' for the PPPoE username or will it be different as I have a dsl connection type?
Thanks

ctlsleh

Has anyone got the Vodafone VoIP settings for a new router when you bridge the HG658....?
Just wondering how to make that work?

Have been able to bridge for internet access, but don't know how to do it for VoIP.....?

TCP/IP

Hi guys,

Lightspeed is just been made available to my house and my first question was can I bridge because if I can not its a complete no go for me.
I have read post from Vodafone reps that bridging was not supported and now in the last few pages on this thread I see comments that it is available now after a firmware update.

Can somebody confirm the actual status on bridging please before I order.

Kindest regards,
TCP/IP

fergalom

Wondering if someone can help

Just moved from Eir to Vodafone

Getting 80 down when tested the Vodafone modem on its own = great. (Eir was the same)

Bridged it and can now only see 35 down?

Any other settings I need to change on the Vodafone modem (tuned off firewall, dhcp, wifi, set lan address and finally bridge the vdsl, uncheck tr069)?

Thanks

Do you have the MTU set to 1492 on your router?

fergalom

Karsini wrote:

Do you have the MTU set to 1492 on your router?

Thanks, yes i do

fergalom

fergalom wrote: »

Thanks, yes i do

That's grand, always worth checking.

lewis

I`m pulling my hair out here, I`ve the piece of crap Vodafone HG658c router and the Netgear Nighhawk AC1900 R7000.

Before I had them bridged but yesterday I pulled out the ethernet cable from the Vodafone WAN port and I`ve not been able to get them both working in bridged mode.

I can`t remember what EXACT steps I took last time, so I`ve trolled through this thread trying to sort it, no luck, I`d love some help with this......I`m losing my mind doing this.....

fergalom

lewis wrote: »

I`m pulling my hair out here, I`ve the piece of crap Vodafone HG658c router and the Netgear Nighhawk AC1900 R7000.

Before I had them bridged but yesterday I pulled out the ethernet cable from the Vodafone WAN port and I`ve not been able to get them both working in bridged mode.

I can`t remember what EXACT steps I took last time, so I`ve trolled through this thread trying to sort it, no luck, I`d love some help with this......I`m losing my mind doing this.....

Sounds like cables in wrong port?
Cables = LAN Port on Vodafone HG658c connected to WAN on Netgear Nighhawk AC1900 R7000
Assuming you have bridge mode on Vodafone HG658c already and PPoE settings on the Nighthawk.


Would be interested to hear if you notice a speed drop when bridging like I see?

lewis

fergalom wrote: »

Sounds like cables in wrong port?
Cables = LAN Port on Vodafone HG658c connected to WAN on Netgear Nighhawk AC1900 R7000
Assuming you have bridge mode on Vodafone HG658c already and PPoE settings on the Nighthawk.


Would be interested to hear if you notice a speed drop when bridging like I see?

Cable is in the right place.

I reset the HG658c, so I`m starting from scratch..

I`m trying to do this....http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94640957 but no having much joy..

I`m stuck at step 5, I don`t see it...

This is what I have.

Conar

lewis wrote: »

Cable is in the right place.

I reset the HG658c, so I`m starting from scratch..

I`m trying to do this....http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94640957 but no having much joy..

I`m stuck at step 5, I don`t see it...

This is what I have.

The firmware has changed slightly.
It's no longer the 2nd item, it's the 3rd on yours now. The one that says tr069_Internet, not VOIP.

lewis

I think I got it all back, I`ve no idea at what point it sorted itself, I`m stumped....all day I`ve been at it and it just sorts itself.....grrrrrrrrrr.

lewis

fergalom wrote: »

Would be interested to hear if you notice a speed drop when bridging like I see?

This is what I`m getting after three tests, not great but it`ll do..

higster

Hi All,

I've had a nice stable network for the past 2 years where had bridged HG568c wan connected to Apple Time Capsule and in turn using an Apple Express to provide coverage over the "other side of the house"

Anyhow, no broadband this morning. Noticed LED light on HG568c was off...now to be honest I can't remember if it was always off or not (important for later).

So rang vodafone and did a reset of the HG568c (first mistake me thinks) and a reset "on his end". Yup, all lights back on HG568c and wifi up and running using the HG568c.

Go to bridge the HG568c using steps described earlier and copped that was number 3 vs. 2 on step 5 etc (http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=94640957).

Now back to no LED for internet on the HG568c again and cannot get it to work with Apple Time Capsule. Did resets of both and "rebridged" many times. When reset Time Capsule (TC) and reset up network get "unexpected error" when tries to talk to HG568c.

One item that might help my trouble shooting...is the LED for internet on or not when you have the HG568c bridged?

Any other suggestion most welcome (wasted 4hrs of my life today on this)

Thanks
John.

fergalom

I definitely have an issue when bridging this modem - has anyone else seen this?

When bridged, can only get 1/2 (40mb) of what I would get using the Vodafone modem only (80mb).
Note this is not related to my router as I was getting 80 when bridging eir before I switched a week ago.

It also seems the wan ip ranges are completely different when bridging / not bridging the Vodafone modem

See attached re speeds and ip ranges.




Anyone got any insights on this or experience the same halving of speeds when bridged?

Cooling off period 14days?

Conar

fergalom wrote: »

I definitely have an issue when bridging this modem - has anyone else seen this?

When bridged, can only get 1/2 (40mb) of what I would get using the Vodafone modem only (80mb).
Note this is not related to my router as I was getting 80 when bridging eir before I switched a week ago.

It also seems the wan ip ranges are completely different when bridging / not bridging the Vodafone modem

See attached re speeds and ip ranges.




Anyone got any insights on this or experience the same halving of speeds when bridged?

Cooling off period 14days?

Those tests are on 2 different servers. Is it possible that the Blacknight one is slower?
I've noticed that issue here in the southwest and usually manually set the server as the one it picks is often awful.

What speed do you get when you download a large file?

fergalom

Conar wrote: »

Those tests are on 2 different servers. Is it possible that the Blacknight one is slower?
I've noticed that issue here in the southwest and usually manually set the server as the one it picks is often awful.

What speed do you get when you download a large file?

Thanks Conar, thought of that its the same.
If you do a lookup on the Vodafone IPs on the images, unbridged modem IP is listed as "Vodafone Infrastructure" and the bridged modem IP is "Vodafone Mobile DSL".

If I move the modem from bridged back to unbridged, the IP ranges change as above and speed goes back to 80. No matter, how many times, same result.