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Missing Relative

  • 05-08-2013 9:48am
    #1
    Assassin saphir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭


    Hi everyone. I'm looking for some help with my tree. My grandfather was born in 1927 in London. He had a brother called Patrick that he fell out with and didn't speak to. I never met Patrick but remember a relative saying he moved to Bristol as an adult. There is no birth record for Patrick. I have both my great grandparents names and have searched using his mother's maiden name and my family name. I have searched from 1920 onwards. I have considered that he may not be my great grandfathers child but still no luck. Could it be that the record is lost? I have worldwide membership on ancestry.
    I can't ask my grandad as he died in 1995. He wouldn't have told me anyway. My dad doesn't have any further information either.
    I have completed the rest of my tree but keep coming back to Patrick. I've spent 4 yrs working on this and would love to complete the last piece of the puzzle. Can anyone tell me where I might find this record? Thanks


Comments

  • #2
    pinkypinky
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    Is the family Irish?

    Is it possible Patrick was born in Ireland? Why did you search from 1920 onwards? When did the great-grandparents get married - if you don't have their marriage cert, get it to be sure of dates, and then search before it for a birth anyway.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • #3
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Is it possible that Patrick is not his first name (but perhaps his second) ?

    All UK births from 1916 onward list the mothers maiden name so it should be possible to check all births for someone with a certain surname with the mothers name and see what comes up.


  • #4
    Assassin saphir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Assassin saphir


    My great grandparents married in London in 1926, he was English and she was Irish. I have their marriage certificate. I tried omitting Patricks first name and using my great grandmothers surname. But there are no other children born to her showing on ancestry except my granddad.


  • #5
    tanoralover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭tanoralover


    Did you try searching with just the father's last name? I've found many births this way because the mother's name was not transcribed.


  • #6
    Ponster
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    tanoralover wrote: »
    Did you try searching with just the father's last name? I've found many births this way because the mother's name was not transcribed.

    I don't think that there is a way to search for UK birth records using the fathers name, at least not in Ancestry or FreeBMD...


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  • #7
    tanoralover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55 ✭✭tanoralover


    Ponster wrote: »
    I don't think that there is a way to search for UK birth records using the fathers name, at least not in Ancestry or FreeBMD...

    Sorry, I meant search for "Patrick Surname" rather than "Patrick Surname + mother's surname"


  • #8
    Assassin saphir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 318 ✭✭Assassin saphir


    tanoralover wrote: »
    Sorry, I meant search for "Patrick Surname" rather than "Patrick Surname + mother's surname"
    Yes I tried that.
    Now I'm wondering if he was adopted by them or maybe a child my great grandfather
    had with another woman.
    Could the record be lost or missing?


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