The Flash [** Spoilers ** ==> US pace]

_Kaiser_

That was epic...

but as posted above, the fact that they've brought time travel into it, I fear that they'll go for the big reset button next week (Cisco doesn't die/find out about Wells, Iris doesn't find out Barry is the Flash etc) As fantastic as that episode I just watched was, I'll be majorly pissed if they do that

zarquon

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

That was epic...

but as posted above, the fact that they've brought time travel into it, I fear that they'll go for the big reset button next week (Cisco doesn't die/find out about Wells, Iris doesn't find out Barry is the Flash etc) As fantastic as that episode I just watched was, I'll be majorly pissed if they do that

You can be absolutely guaranteed that they will do the reset, that's why they had so many reveals because next week they go back to hidden

Mr E

Great episode. A big red reset button is a dead certainty.

The whole point of the episode was to reveal Wells' identity to the viewers (and some explanations like the body echo thingy)

CastorTroy

But now Barry will start to make things awkward with Iris again knowing how she feels.

I think the most confusing part of the episode was why put the tape on Joe's mouth then leave his hand free?

DakarVert

What episode are ye all on?

I'm watching on Sky 1 (Up to S1 EP14)

lpower

online you are behind us like watching dallas in the 80's who shot jr .When everyone know in the US we were 6 months behind. Thank god for the internet now.

Wolverine359

DakarVert wrote: »

What episode are ye all on?

I'm watching on Sky 1 (Up to S1 EP14)

We're on episode 15, "Out of Time".

Clareman

My thoughts are that Wells knew that Barry was going to go back cause he told him about seeing 2 of himself, so he knew he'd be resetting anyway, if they go the whole different realms thing there will be a lot of melting of minds going on.

Thwip!

Otacon wrote: »

Possibly a spoiler-y question after watching the latest episode:

Is time-travel going to ruin this show?

It's an integral part of his mythos

tvnutz

Ah what a cop out! Great episode,but at the same time when you have the time travel it just makes for an easy reset. Cisco annoys me, was glad he died, only for it not to happen! They probably have comics they have to go by in terms of the characters but sometimes killing off a major characters works really well, like in Arrow and the 100.

Nervous Wreck

Reset button or no, that was the best 45 mins of TV this year.

Clareman

tvnutz wrote: »

Ah what a cop out! Great episode,but at the same time when you have the time travel it just makes for an easy reset. Cisco annoys me, was glad he died, only for it not to happen! They probably have comics they have to go by in terms of the characters but sometimes killing off a major characters works really well, like in Arrow and the 100.

Not really a cop out, just an enhancement of the whole Flash universe, the multiple threads of time is a massive piece of the comic book world so it would have been a cop out not to include it here, I'm interested to see how they deal with it, whether they show the multiple arcs or just concentrate on 1.

don ramo

i think theres something wrong with my inner nerd, that episode did noting for me, a whole lotta great stuff happened, but i just didnt feel it,

weird

googled eyes

I don't think the episode was a cop out.

Now we really know who Wells is and what he's capable of.

SoftMicro

Fantastic episode, great build up to a a big WTF

5star02707

Reaction towards the end was

:O to "noooooooo" to "YEAH!!!!"

TonyD79

tvnutz wrote: »

They probably have comics they have to go by in terms of the characters but sometimes killing off a major characters works really well, like in Arrow and the 100.

Not sure if 100 is a comic book show? but I don't recall Arrow killing off any major characters from the DC universe. Both his parents were killed when he was a child in the comics. The brought back Malcolm Merlyn from the dead with no real explanation? Also Cisco is a major character from the Flash comics so he is pretty safe at this stage!

Sudden Valley

There is two few main characters in Flash to kill off anyone. That is one weakness in the show at the moment. They didn't even kill Caitlin's Ex.
They killed off tommy, Shado and Ollie's mother in the Arrow which is not bad going.

Clareman

J@ysus, the show is only 15 episodes old, it's a bit soon to be killing people off.

McLoughlin

Clareman wrote: »

J@ysus, the show is only 15 episodes old, it's a bit soon to be killing people off.

Been done before in shows I can think of one major one

Doyle in Angel

Clareman

McLoughlin wrote: »

Been done before in shows I can think of one major one

Doyle in Angel

Not really the same thing though as that show had already introduced a lot of the characters and the ethos of the show in another show. The Flash is trying to introduce a whole new audience to a bunch of people, trying to get them to care about the characters, to introduce an overarching storyline, introduce a storyline each week that will make people to tune in, throwing in a few character deaths for the sake of it would seem a bit rushed imvho.

BTW, am I the only 1 glad that the Schofield/Burrows brothers weren't in it this week, they really are poor actors.

tvnutz

Clareman wrote: »

J@ysus, the show is only 15 episodes old, it's a bit soon to be killing people off.

The 100 would disagree, many other shows do it now.

And yes I know the 100 is not a comic book, it is based on a book though, but the Flash is tied to the comics too much. As mentioned Arrow killed of several characters, I am not familiar with both comics, I'm a tv fan, I don't care about comics, which is why I don't really like when the shows become tied down because of comics.

Clareman

I would have thought Game of Thrones would be the best example of killing off, I take the point that it can be done.

tvnutz

Clareman wrote: »

I would have thought Game of Thrones would be the best example of killing off, I take the point that it can be done.

Kind of similar to your point as well though! Based on books, its just those books killed a load of people off! Comic books...when they are messed with, people get angry. My brother is into comics, when I said I didn't like Cisco and was glad he died, I was told something about him and Kaitlin from the comic books that doesn't give me any hope for caring about them in the show.

GerardKeating

McLoughlin wrote: »

Been done before in shows I can think of one major one

Doyle in Angel

But that was more due to issues with the Actor, rather than a grand scheme...

TheGoldenAges

Didn't Shado show up in a flashback this week in Arrow so is she killed off for sure or is she like Sarah? (Presumed dead)

Nervous Wreck

GerardKeating wrote: »

But that was more due to issues with the Actor, rather than a grand scheme...

No it wasn't. Whedons plan from inception was to kill him off because no one would expect it, especially with the main cast being only three characters.

D'Agger

Just after seeing the episode, thought it was good

Will be interesting to see if

Barry can get things to work differently and save Cisco somehow. A stretch but surely they'll change Iris knowing about Barry?

Kirby

McLoughlin wrote: »

Been done before in shows I can think of one major one Doyle in Angel

GerardKeating wrote: »

But that was more due to issues with the Actor, rather than a grand scheme...

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

No it wasn't. Whedons plan from inception was to kill him off because no one would expect it, especially with the main cast being only three characters.

No need to spoiler it. I think when a show is over a decade old, we can talk about it openly.

Whedon was just being nice there. There is no doubt that Whedon does love a good character death, but the plan was never to remove him that early in the show.

Glenn Quinn was having drug issues and this necessitated his removal from the show. He died of a heroin overdose a couple of years later so as harsh as it sounds, they made the right choice.

ShazGV

I'm watching along on Sky 1 so have just seen episode 15 - absolutely loved it. Felt like a season finale.