2013 All Ireland Hurling Semi Final Dublin V Cork

Thinkstoomuch

A SPECIAL DAY AWAITS


A unique occasion,one to savour,one that deserves to be graced by any Hurling fan,irrespective of whatever county their from is ahead of us this weekend.

A memorable day ,awaits on the 11th of August,the Dubs,the Boys in Blue,the Jackeens ,the men from the capital go to war ,against the Rebels,the Blood and Bandage,the langers,from the People's Republic of Cork,for a place in 126th All Ireland Final,on the 8th of September.

Those that are lucky enough to be in Croke Park ,those for whatever reason unfortunate not to be their,whether their in a bar in Sydney,New Zealand.America ,or whether their at home in Ballyboden,Tallaght,Kilmacadd Crokes, or in Bandon,Cloyne,Cork City,Newtownshandrum ,the bodies may be else where,but the heart and souls of both Dublin and Cork will be fixed like a platontic stare ,on the events in Croke Park,once James Owens throws in the sliothar on Sunday afternoon.

THE HISTORY

Unlike in the football,Cork and Dublin have only met rarely in the championship in hurling.

13 times in all,hurley's have been crossed and the ash has been clashed ,with Cork winning 11-2.
The first meeting in 1892 in Clonturf park,and the last in 2008 in a qualifer  in Pairc UI Caoimh,in which Cork won both games.

Dublin beat Cork in 1920 and 1927.
Dublin had met Cork in 1941,1942, and 1944,but their was no shame in loosing to that Cork side,as they were the greatest team of the 40's and led by the Great Christy Ring, had won the 4 in a row.

The most recent clash, Cork won down in Cork in 2008,1-17 to 15 for Dublin.David O Callaghan was Dublins scorer in chief with ten points,3 from play.

David O 'Callaghan,Gary Mcguire,Niall Cococoran,Stephen Hiney,and Joey Boland all started that game,and are expected to play big roles on Sunday.Simon Lambert started that game ,and is a Sub on sunday,and Oisin Gough a sub in that game,is a sub on Sunday .

From Cork's side,only Shane O'Neill and Tom Kenny are due to start.

Brian murphy played also but may have to settle for a place on the bench Sunday,as he is unlikey to be fully fit.
Anthony Nash,Pa Horgan,and Pa Cronin all were on the bench and Cathal Naughton who started then and got three points from play,is on the bench this time.
Incidentally the same referee then James Owen's of Wexford is the man in the middle on Sunday.


DIVIDED LOYALTIES

This game will have an added significance in the former chairman of the Dublin County Board,a very modern,proactive chairman who build the many foundations for Dublin's sucess,is indeed a Cork man,Gerry Harraington.
Cork's loss,was Dublins gain.

Andy Kettle, the Chairman now,has continued the good work and taken it to a new level.


FROM MINNOWS TO A NEW FORCE

The wheel has turned full circle,with both these counties,in the last few years.
From 2005,to 2010,there was significant markers of Dublin emerging as new force ,with a new man at the top table of their County Board,in Gerry Harrington.

Cork  were in complete contrast since our last all ireland win ,and the fact Cork won munster title,at all the four grades in 2005,Cork's County Board , continued with the same Voice at the helm ,in Frank Murphy, and they refused to acknowlege,appreciate,understand and resolve the growing issues in Cork Hurling that were beginning to surface.


Cork were suffocated with more inhouse fighting,power struggles,soul destroying strikes ,that the wounds have yet to be fully healed from.

Cork's underage success has got worse ,with just one minor munster title,one all ireland final contested,and only one Munster U21 title won and no all ireland final won or even contested.

Dublin invested large amounts of capital in to their underage structure,but there was a lot of work done by volunteers,by the clubs,and by the County board,where there's is 50 games developement officers involved in the county.They are funded by both the board and clubs.Every one is united,to the one cause.

Dublin may have raised a few eyebrows in getting 2 million from the Leinster council in terms of a coaching grant ,but they have spent the money well,and their success from where they have came from,justifes the money they got.

Cork are one of the healthiest Countys fianically in the GAA,and certainly have the money and rescources to invest in hurling in the county but questions remain ,have our County board the same Will as Dublin to invest more money.

We like Dublin,have tremendous volunteers in the county,but only 5 full time coaches in such a large county is surely not enough.


Dublin have proved at the very least to be  competitve.Since 2005,they have contested 4 Leinster Titles,winning 3,including  two in a row at Minor.
They may not have won the all Ireland ,but they contested both the 2011 and 2012 All Irelands,and took a very good Tippereary team to a replay last year.

Since 2005,they have contested 5 u21 Leinster titles,winning three ,and contested two All Irelands finals.All their players,in direct contrast to Cork are getting regular exposure to finals ,and have won as well.

Only for the likes of CITand UCC,doing well in the Fitzgibbon Cup,Cork would be in a much worse place.

When Gerry Harrington was Chairman,he set a target for Dublin Hurling ,to win a leinster title,which they did,and to contest an all ireland final by 2015.
A statement of intent,that it is very much on target   to add to their 2011 League title.

THE GAME ITSELF

It really is a contrast in two different styles and not just colour.
Dublin are a very physical team,and well organised in contrast tot a Cork team,that are likely to play a crafty ,off the cuff type of game,where it is all about space,and use every inch and blade of grass in Croke Park.

Now those Dublin fans take a breath,before they think i'm saying that Dublin are just a brute force,I am not.Far from it.

This team is blessed with skilful ,hurlers,in the likes of former all stars Liam Rushe,Gary Maguire,and ,and possible all stars in Danny Sutcliffe,Conal Keaney,Dotsy O Callaghan,and one of the finest full backs around  in Peter Kelly.
And of course they have Paul Ryan,top scorer in the Leinster final ,with 2-7,and alongside Maurice Shanahan,the top scorer in a single game ,so far this season.

Joey Boland is a very good intelligent midfieler,and John Mccaffery is a perfect partner,well able to score long distance points.Ryan O'Dwyer,no stranger to Cork being a Tippereary man,will work very hard and he can take scores.

Dublin,unlike Kilkenny,who lacked pace at the back,through no fault of their own,just that time caught up with them,have Niall Cocorcan and Paul schutte who are no slouche's,but will they be fast enough for JBM's greyhounds,who are lightening fast.

What Dublin have also is expierence and from their darkest days like last year against Kilkenny ,and in 2011,to last year against Clare,and all the soul searching they have done since,they have now found themselves,and created a new Dublin that  are a steely,expierenced team,thats have ground out draws,and wins when not going well,to being ruthless against Kilkenny and Galway  when they hit form.

They have a fantastic spine,from Peter  Kelly,to Liam Rushe,to Joey Boland and John  Mccaffery,all the way up to  Ryan O'Dwyer,and David Tracey.They want to be the first Dublin team since 1968,that win's the All Ireland.
Will the momentum gained with so many  matches played close together in June,now be lost in the five week lay off to Sunday's game??

Cork have expierence and leadership ,and possibly  the best keeper in the game at the moment in  Anthony Nash.Cork have yet to concede a goal ,and Nash has played a big part in that.

When Wayne Sherlock went,we never thought we would be lucky enough see he's likes again.Connor O' Sullivan is like he's clone ,a superb reader of the game,a great man to use space,and a intelligent crafty hurler.

As good as Mcdonnell  is he is not
a natural full back.David Tracey may not have hit top form,against Galway but on he's day he can be a real handful.

Cork have a solid half back  line,in Kenny,Joyce and Egan.Their is no gurantee this unit will start,and its quite possible,Mcloughlin and Kenny or joyce could swtich.


Daniel Kearney has a lot to do ,in terms of being Corks answer to Jerry O 'Connor,must score more to be he's clone,but other than that,he's pace,work rate,link play,touch and the hurling intelligence is on par with him.

Cork have fine forwards,crafty,off the cuff hurlers,pacey,and like to hurl like free spirits,in lehane,Coughlan,O' Farell,and our tailsman ,Pat Horgan.They have not scored any goal so far,and must get one on Sunday,as it is a big ask to outscore Dublin on point's alone.

Pat Horgan got 11 points against KK,but was also involved in most of Cork's good  moments.If Dublin hold him,it will be a big blow to Cork's hopes of a first all ireland final apperance since 2006.

It is unlikely the forwards will get much freedom from Dublin,and they will have to earn any scores they get.

That it is why Cork must replicate the intensity,work rate,hunger ,that they showed against Kilkenny in winning the puck-outs 27-25,and also won the breaking ball from puck-outs and broken play 29-24.
They will have to take it  to the next level to beat Dublin.

Seamus Harnedy ,aggression ,physicallty,and work rate ,combined with he's hurling and athletiscim have been a revelation for Cork.He has been the single biggest factor that has ignited  Cork's attack this season.

He is still learning the trade,but in time he could be like Niall Mccarthy,Timmy Mccarthy,and Tomas Mulchay all rolled in to one.


And last but not least ,our Captain fantastic ,Pa Cronin.He is finally back to full health and fitness and he's ability to win puck-outs,take scores,and move between midfield and the 40,on Sunday will be crucial to Cork's chances,of reaching the final in search of  their first title since 2005.

Cork as a team ,have suffered their fair share of darks days.They learned from the 2012 massacre at the hands of the Great Kilkenny.They have improved in every game so far,including the Limerick game.
They have yet to play for a full game,and have no choice but to do so to have any chance of beating Dublin this weekend.

WILL IT BE THE DOUBLE OR DOUBLE TROUBLE

The footballer's win can give the hurler's a confidence boost,or it could add to the great expectation already on them,as they do not want to be the team that destroys their  County's dream of the Holy Grail,Sam and Liam Mac side by side in the Capital.

Cork expierenced the jubilation of the Double in 1990,but the heartbreak of having the Double Dream dashed in 1999.

THE TALE OF THE SIDELINE

The management  of both teams will have a huge influence on the game as how they pick their team,create their match up's and react quickest and most effectively to the flow of the game,could well decide this contest.

Both sidelines are occupied by All Ireland winners,in Anthony Daly,Riche Stakelum(a history of famous wins and speeches against Cork,in he played in Tipps breakthrough win in 1987 in Killarney),and on Corks side they have JBM,Ger Cunnigham,Kieran Kingston and Seanie Mcgrath.

You have olympians on both sides of the line , in David Matthews,Corks trainer,while Dublin have Gold medal boxing winner from 1992,in the Great Michael Carruth as their masseuse.

Jimmy Barry Murphy has won an all ireland semifinal with Cork in 99, but  lost one the following year.

Anthony Daly has yet to win a semi final.,having lost three,two with the Banner in 2005 and 2006,and one with Dublin in 2011,against Tippereary.
Will it be a case of fourth time lucky,for the Great Clarecastle native.??


THE VERDICT

I won't predict a winner,as it really has been Tales of the Unexpected so far.
The Bookies are not even brave enough to call a winner,the last time I looked,both were even money.

The way the season has unfolded both teams will be happy with that,as being a favourite this year it has mean't nothing at all .

For both teams to win with the Hurl,they must first show the hunger,intensity,drive and composure,that is needed in a game like this.
Whatever team ticks all those boxes will win.

It's going to be a long week,but it all ends in 70 minutes of Hurling on the day.

Stoner

Thinkstoomuch wrote: »

DIVIDED LOYALTIES

This game will have an added significance in the former chairman of the Dublin County Board,a very modern,proactive chairman who build the many foundations for Dublin's sucess,is indeed a Cork man,Gerry Harraington.
Cork's loss,was Dublins gain.

Andy Kettle, the Chairman now,has continued the good work and taken it to a new level.

Its comments like this that back me up when I say that Cork teams should have Cork managers. unique type of people alright, slow to take credit, unassuming folk, gracious almost meek.

I hear that the Dublin team switched to charleville cheese during the half time at the Kilkenny replay adding to that Cork foundation.

Great post BTW.

m0ynihan

Eh.. Is it only the lower tier that's open for the match or is it nearly completely sold out? That's what Ticketmaster is telling me..

IntoYourSister

m0ynihan wrote: »

Eh.. Is it only the lower tier that's open for the match or is it nearly completely sold out? That's what Ticketmaster is telling me..

Only lower tier have been opened so far.

Check out gaa.tickets.ie

I'd imagine they will open up the upper tier at some stage.

I hate the way they try to sell the poorer tickets first, all you can get online for the last week or so are the crap tickets in the corner and right down by the pitch side. Seems very unfair that they don't open up the upper tier to allow people pick whatever seats they want.

Justin Credible Darts

I hope dublin play them off the field.

I am a corkman, please dublin shut them langers in cork up

Amprodude

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

I hope dublin play them off the field.

I am a corkman, please dublin shut them langers in cork up

What?

Justin Credible Darts

Amprodude wrote: »

What?

I have little affinity for the GAA but appreciate the game of hurling as a sport, a fine spectacle and class game.

Such is the closed mindedness of cork gaa people that if you dare to have an opinion that suggests you are not interested in who wins you are labelled with all sorts on insults.
I myself was called gay, a loyalist, thick etc for daring to suggest I dont like the GAA.
Such is the insecurity of some it is percieved there is something wrong with me for not being obsessed with the cork team as a corkman.

for that reason alone , i am now hoping dublin win:D

IntoYourSister

Upper tier tickets now on sale.

DoctaDee

One of the best opening posts I've read .. well done brother plenty of research. (I wonder if Sean Kavanaghs rugby tackle will make this thread :rolleyes:)

Rightwing

Thinkstoomuch wrote: »

A SPECIAL DAY AWAITS


A unique occasion,one to savour,one that deserves to be graced by any Hurling fan,irrespective of whatever county their from is ahead of us this weekend.

A memorable day ,awaits on the 11th of August,the Dubs,the Boys in Blue,the Jackeens ,the men from the capital go to war ,against the Rebels,the Blood and Bandage,the langers,from the People's Republic of Cork,for a place in 126th All Ireland Final,on the 8th of September.

Those that are lucky enough to be in Croke Park ,those for whatever reason unfortunate not to be their,whether their in a bar in Sydney,New Zealand.America ,or whether their at home in Ballyboden,Tallaght,Kilmacadd Crokes, or in Bandon,Cloyne,Cork City,Newtownshandrum ,the bodies may be else where,but the heart and souls of both Dublin and Cork will be fixed like a platontic stare ,on the events in Croke Park,once James Owens throws in the sliothar on Sunday afternoon.

THE HISTORY

Unlike in the football,Cork and Dublin have only met rarely in the championship in hurling.

13 times in all,hurley's have been crossed and the ash has been clashed ,with Cork winning 11-2.
The first meeting in 1892 in Clonturf park,and the last in 2008 in a qualifer in Pairc UI Caoimh,in which Cork won both games.

Dublin beat Cork in 1920 and 1927.
Dublin had met Cork in 1941,1942, and 1944,but their was no shame in loosing to that Cork side,as they were the greatest team of the 40's and led by the Great Christy Ring, had won the 4 in a row.

The most recent clash, Cork won down in Cork in 2008,1-17 to 15 for Dublin.David O Callaghan was Dublins scorer in chief with ten points,3 from play.

David O 'Callaghan,Gary Mcguire,Niall Cococoran,Stephen Hiney,and Joey Boland all started that game,and are expected to play big roles on Sunday.Simon Lambert started that game ,and is a Sub on sunday,and Oisin Gough a sub in that game,is a sub on Sunday .

From Cork's side,only Shane O'Neill and Tom Kenny are due to start.

Brian murphy played also but may have to settle for a place on the bench Sunday,as he is unlikey to be fully fit.
Anthony Nash,Pa Horgan,and Pa Cronin all were on the bench and Cathal Naughton who started then and got three points from play,is on the bench this time.
Incidentally the same referee then James Owen's of Wexford is the man in the middle on Sunday.


DIVIDED LOYALTIES

This game will have an added significance in the former chairman of the Dublin County Board,a very modern,proactive chairman who build the many foundations for Dublin's sucess,is indeed a Cork man,Gerry Harraington.
Cork's loss,was Dublins gain.

Andy Kettle, the Chairman now,has continued the good work and taken it to a new level.


FROM MINNOWS TO A NEW FORCE

The wheel has turned full circle,with both these counties,in the last few years.
From 2005,to 2010,there was significant markers of Dublin emerging as new force ,with a new man at the top table of their County Board,in Gerry Harrington.

Cork were in complete contrast since our last all ireland win ,and the fact Cork won munster title,at all the four grades in 2005,Cork's County Board , continued with the same Voice at the helm ,in Frank Murphy, and they refused to acknowlege,appreciate,understand and resolve the growing issues in Cork Hurling that were beginning to surface.


Cork were suffocated with more inhouse fighting,power struggles,soul destroying strikes ,that the wounds have yet to be fully healed from.

Cork's underage success has got worse ,with just one minor munster title,one all ireland final contested,and only one Munster U21 title won and no all ireland final won or even contested.

Dublin invested large amounts of capital in to their underage structure,but there was a lot of work done by volunteers,by the clubs,and by the County board,where there's is 50 games developement officers involved in the county.They are funded by both the board and clubs.Every one is united,to the one cause.

Dublin may have raised a few eyebrows in getting 2 million from the Leinster council in terms of a coaching grant ,but they have spent the money well,and their success from where they have came from,justifes the money they got.

Cork are one of the healthiest Countys fianically in the GAA,and certainly have the money and rescources to invest in hurling in the county but questions remain ,have our County board the same Will as Dublin to invest more money.

We like Dublin,have tremendous volunteers in the county,but only 5 full time coaches in such a large county is surely not enough.


Dublin have proved at the very least to be competitve.Since 2005,they have contested 4 Leinster Titles,winning 3,including two in a row at Minor.
They may not have won the all Ireland ,but they contested both the 2011 and 2012 All Irelands,and took a very good Tippereary team to a replay last year.

Since 2005,they have contested 5 u21 Leinster titles,winning three ,and contested two All Irelands finals.All their players,in direct contrast to Cork are getting regular exposure to finals ,and have won as well.

Only for the likes of CITand UCC,doing well in the Fitzgibbon Cup,Cork would be in a much worse place.

When Gerry Harrington was Chairman,he set a target for Dublin Hurling ,to win a leinster title,which they did,and to contest an all ireland final by 2015.
A statement of intent,that it is very much on target to add to their 2011 League title.

THE GAME ITSELF

It really is a contrast in two different styles and not just colour.
Dublin are a very physical team,and well organised in contrast tot a Cork team,that are likely to play a crafty ,off the cuff type of game,where it is all about space,and use every inch and blade of grass in Croke Park.

Now those Dublin fans take a breath,before they think i'm saying that Dublin are just a brute force,I am not.Far from it.

This team is blessed with skilful ,hurlers,in the likes of former all stars Liam Rushe,Gary Maguire,and ,and possible all stars in Danny Sutcliffe,Conal Keaney,Dotsy O Callaghan,and one of the finest full backs around in Peter Kelly.
And of course they have Paul Ryan,top scorer in the Leinster final ,with 2-7,and alongside Maurice Shanahan,the top scorer in a single game ,so far this season.

Joey Boland is a very good intelligent midfieler,and John Mccaffery is a perfect partner,well able to score long distance points.Ryan O'Dwyer,no stranger to Cork being a Tippereary man,will work very hard and he can take scores.

Dublin,unlike Kilkenny,who lacked pace at the back,through no fault of their own,just that time caught up with them,have Niall Cocorcan and Paul schutte who are no slouche's,but will they be fast enough for JBM's greyhounds,who are lightening fast.

What Dublin have also is expierence and from their darkest days like last year against Kilkenny ,and in 2011,to last year against Clare,and all the soul searching they have done since,they have now found themselves,and created a new Dublin that are a steely,expierenced team,thats have ground out draws,and wins when not going well,to being ruthless against Kilkenny and Galway when they hit form.

They have a fantastic spine,from Peter Kelly,to Liam Rushe,to Joey Boland and John Mccaffery,all the way up to Ryan O'Dwyer,and David Tracey.They want to be the first Dublin team since 1968,that win's the All Ireland.
Will the momentum gained with so many matches played close together in June,now be lost in the five week lay off to Sunday's game??

Cork have expierence and leadership ,and possibly the best keeper in the game at the moment in Anthony Nash.Cork have yet to concede a goal ,and Nash has played a big part in that.

When Wayne Sherlock went,we never thought we would be lucky enough see he's likes again.Connor O' Sullivan is like he's clone ,a superb reader of the game,a great man to use space,and a intelligent crafty hurler.

As good as Mcdonnell is he is not
a natural full back.David Tracey may not have hit top form,against Galway but on he's day he can be a real handful.

Cork have a solid half back line,in Kenny,Joyce and Egan.Their is no gurantee this unit will start,and its quite possible,Mcloughlin and Kenny or joyce could swtich.


Daniel Kearney has a lot to do ,in terms of being Corks answer to Jerry O 'Connor,must score more to be he's clone,but other than that,he's pace,work rate,link play,touch and the hurling intelligence is on par with him.

Cork have fine forwards,crafty,off the cuff hurlers,pacey,and like to hurl like free spirits,in lehane,Coughlan,O' Farell,and our tailsman ,Pat Horgan.They have not scored any goal so far,and must get one on Sunday,as it is a big ask to outscore Dublin on point's alone.

Pat Horgan got 11 points against KK,but was also involved in most of Cork's good moments.If Dublin hold him,it will be a big blow to Cork's hopes of a first all ireland final apperance since 2006.

It is unlikely the forwards will get much freedom from Dublin,and they will have to earn any scores they get.

That it is why Cork must replicate the intensity,work rate,hunger ,that they showed against Kilkenny in winning the puck-outs 27-25,and also won the breaking ball from puck-outs and broken play 29-24.
They will have to take it to the next level to beat Dublin.

Seamus Harnedy ,aggression ,physicallty,and work rate ,combined with he's hurling and athletiscim have been a revelation for Cork.He has been the single biggest factor that has ignited Cork's attack this season.

He is still learning the trade,but in time he could be like Niall Mccarthy,Timmy Mccarthy,and Tomas Mulchay all rolled in to one.


And last but not least ,our Captain fantastic ,Pa Cronin.He is finally back to full health and fitness and he's ability to win puck-outs,take scores,and move between midfield and the 40,on Sunday will be crucial to Cork's chances,of reaching the final in search of their first title since 2005.

Cork as a team ,have suffered their fair share of darks days.They learned from the 2012 massacre at the hands of the Great Kilkenny.They have improved in every game so far,including the Limerick game.
They have yet to play for a full game,and have no choice but to do so to have any chance of beating Dublin this weekend.

WILL IT BE THE DOUBLE OR DOUBLE TROUBLE

The footballer's win can give the hurler's a confidence boost,or it could add to the great expectation already on them,as they do not want to be the team that destroys their County's dream of the Holy Grail,Sam and Liam Mac side by side in the Capital.

Cork expierenced the jubilation of the Double in 1990,but the heartbreak of having the Double Dream dashed in 1999.

THE TALE OF THE SIDELINE

The management of both teams will have a huge influence on the game as how they pick their team,create their match up's and react quickest and most effectively to the flow of the game,could well decide this contest.

Both sidelines are occupied by All Ireland winners,in Anthony Daly,Riche Stakelum(a history of famous wins and speeches against Cork,in he played in Tipps breakthrough win in 1987 in Killarney),and on Corks side they have JBM,Ger Cunnigham,Kieran Kingston and Seanie Mcgrath.

You have olympians on both sides of the line , in David Matthews,Corks trainer,while Dublin have Gold medal boxing winner from 1992,in the Great Michael Carruth as their masseuse.

Jimmy Barry Murphy has won an all ireland semifinal with Cork in 99, but lost one the following year.

Anthony Daly has yet to win a semi final.,having lost three,two with the Banner in 2005 and 2006,and one with Dublin in 2011,against Tippereary.
Will it be a case of fourth time lucky,for the Great Clarecastle native.??


THE VERDICT

I won't predict a winner,as it really has been Tales of the Unexpected so far.
The Bookies are not even brave enough to call a winner,the last time I looked,both were even money.

The way the season has unfolded both teams will be happy with that,as being a favourite this year it has mean't nothing at all .

For both teams to win with the Hurl,they must first show the hunger,intensity,drive and composure,that is needed in a game like this.
Whatever team ticks all those boxes will win.

It's going to be a long week,but it all ends in 70 minutes of Hurling on the day.

Very good write up.

Dublin to become the 2nd team to do the double ? :eek:

InchicoreDude

IntoYourSister wrote: »

Only lower tier have been opened so far.

Check out gaa.tickets.ie

I'd imagine they will open up the upper tier at some stage.

I hate the way they try to sell the poorer tickets first, all you can get online for the last week or so are the crap tickets in the corner and right down by the pitch side. Seems very unfair that they don't open up the upper tier to allow people pick whatever seats they want.

It is to generate atmosphere. Putting people closer together creates more noise, more of a buzz. A stadium that is as large as Croke Park does not generate an atmosphere when there are people spread around all over the place. So I see the logic in how they do the tickets. To get better tickets, you should contact a club, you dont necessarily need to be a member to get a ticket off a club.

Am really looking forward to these two semi-finals. I feel Cork will win this. I think they have the backs to hold Paul Ryan (who seems to be integral to Dublin this year) while I am unsure if Dublin have the backs to hold Pat Horgan with the form he is. I think it could come down to who performs better between those two guys.

DoctaDee

Slightly OT but related to the ticketing and seating - there was a query last week from someone who was offered tickets in the Lower Davin in WW or UU, and them wondering if they were good seats - they're not. There's a restricted view from the overhang of the upper stand. The only reason I know is that a guy from the club was situated up there last Saturday and couldn't see the points going over any higher than the height of the upright.

m0ynihan

DoctaDee wrote: »

Slightly OT but related to the ticketing and seating - there was a query last week from someone who was offered tickets in the Lower Davin in WW or UU, and them wondering if they were good seats - they're not. There's a restricted view from the overhang of the upper stand. The only reason I know is that a guy from the club was situated up there last Saturday and couldn't see the points going over any higher than the height of the upright.

The upper tier is so much better than lower tier in my opinion, you just see so much more.

DoctaDee

m0ynihan wrote: »

The upper tier is so much better than lower tier in my opinion, you just see so much more.

On AI day I'd gladly take a ticket there but wouldn't be my fav place with what I've diagnosed as latent vertigo ! ... and those voices telling me to jump :rolleyes:

m0ynihan

DoctaDee wrote: »

On AI day I'd gladly take a ticket there but wouldn't be my fav place with what I've diagnosed as latent vertigo ! ... and those voices telling me to jump :rolleyes:

I'd be tempted to jump too, especially if it meant hurting a few Dubs :P

DoctaDee

m0ynihan wrote: »

I'd be tempted to jump too, especially if it meant hurting a few Dubs :P

Make sure ya take yer wallet out before hand coz we'd rifle it off ya .. but yer crepe paper Up The Kingdom cap would be safe :P

m0ynihan

DoctaDee wrote: »

Make sure ya take yer wallet out before hand coz we'd rifle it off ya .. but yer crepe paper Up The Kingdom cap would be safe :P

I'm from Cork bai

DoctaDee

m0ynihan wrote: »

I'm from Cork bai

.. oh jaysis well that's no good youse lads never carry a wallet !!

thought the Moynihan was a Seamus related thingy

m0ynihan

DoctaDee wrote: »

.. oh jaysis well that's no good youse lads never carry a wallet !!

thought the Moynihan was a Seamus related thingy

There's probably some Kerry blood in me, unfortunately.

zetecescort

Rightwing wrote: »

Very good write up.

Dublin to become the 2nd team to do the double ? :eek:

would be the 3rd if they do the double

Cork 1890 and 1990
Tipp 1895

ozymandias10

zetecescort wrote: »

would be the 3rd if they do the double

Cork 1890 and 1990
Tipp 1895

second county team to do it. the first doubles were done by club teams representing the county

Justin Credible Darts

ozymandias10 wrote: »

second county team to do it. the first doubles were done by club teams representing the county

eh...they aint done it yet:D

wrmwit

It'll be a cracking game if both teams come out and play like they did in their last game. I have a tenner on Dublin for the double at 10/1.

From a Tipp man, living in Dublin!

Moneymaker

I'm more excited about this game then the football tbh.

Refreshing matchup and should be a cracker. Dublin have been in scorching form but Cork are still Cork, they have a pedigree at this level.

Ando's Saggy Bottom

Cork to benefit from less of a lay off and their natural cockiness/innate sense that they belong on this stage and win by 3 points. Will be tight though.

Rightwing

I can see cork wipe the floor with them

DoctaDee

Rightwing wrote: »

I can see cork wipe the floor with them

I can see the 6 numbers for Saturdays lotto ..... both baseless statements....

Moneymaker

Rightwing wrote: »

I can see cork wipe the floor with them

Why?

Rightwing

Moneymaker wrote: »

Why?

Cork more skillful
Jbm is getting the best out of Cork
More tradition,,,will dublin freeze on the big day
dublin inconsistent

zetecescort

ozymandias10 wrote: »

second county team to do it. the first doubles were done by club teams representing the county

they are still club players representing their county now. next team to do the double will be the 3rd, no need to belittle the acheivements of teams 120 years ago

Moneymaker

Rightwing wrote: »

Cork more skillful

Based on what? The likes of DOC, Paul Ryan, Danny Sutcliffe, Joey Boland, Liam Rushe and Peter Kelly have shown great skill in this championship.

Rightwing wrote: »

Jbm is getting the best out of Cork

Daly is getting the best out of Dublin. Moot point.

Rightwing wrote: »

More tradition,,,will dublin freeze on the big day

Haven't freezed yet.

Rightwing wrote: »

dublin inconsistent

Both Kilkenny games, Galway game. No sign of inconsistency there.

Not saying we'll win(there won't be more then a puck of the ball in it either way imo) but saying Cork will wipe the floor with us is pretty silly and baseless.

Rightwing

Moneymaker wrote: »

Based on what? The likes of DOC, Paul Ryan, Danny Sutcliffe, Joey Boland, Liam Rushe and Peter Kelly have shown great skill in this championship.




Daly is getting the best out of Dublin. Moot point.



Haven't freezed yet.



Both Kilkenny games, Galway game. No sign of inconsistency there.

Not saying we'll win(there won't be more then a puck of the ball in it either way imo) but saying Cork will wipe the floor with us is pretty silly and baseless.

Let's wait and see, shall we ?

Mountainlad

Think that Dublin will win myself. My concerns would be the 5 week layoff, they took like a duck to water with the competitive games coming thick and fast having been poor against Wexford they were much improved v Kilkenny and Galway. But Cork are still likely missing Murphy, and definitely without Paudie O Sullivan.

They have a great forward line all the same on paper, and if Lehane and O'Farrell produced the performance they are capable of than Dublin would find it difficult to contain all their forwards. But Lehane looks like all his confidence has left him and O'Farrell taking the wrong options in the last game suggest similar problems. Harnedy is in great form, but I would fancy Rushe to contain him if he is center forward. JBM might opt for Cronin there though as it would probably make more senes. Coughlan is good but if O'Farrelll, Lehane and Harnedy are contained and Rushe is marking Cronin he'll hardly do it on his own.

Then you've Horgan the main threat. I assume Peter Kelly will mark him wherever he goes, would make sense than for Hoggie to drift out and O'Farrell to move close to the square is it is his best position and he would dragging a corner back into full which often works a treat. Cork's lack of goals have got to be a concern thouhg, but they have the players capable of getting them and Croke Park is the place to get them.

Still, Dublin will not be phased by the task ahead especially as they have not been given the clear favourites tag. They have a lot of confidence obviously and their skill levels are far above what they were. In Sutcliffe, Keaney, O'Callaghan and Paul Ryan you have very good forwards and I think Crok's backs are there for the taking. Should be a good game, but at this early stage I reckon Dublin will have enough to win it in normal time.

Moneymaker

Rightwing wrote: »

Let's wait and see, shall we ?

Like I said 50-50 game. Looking forward to either way anyways.

Expecting a good Cork crowd so lets hope our lot do their bit and give the lads the support they deserve.

billyhead

Cant wait for this game. I agree with what many of the other posters have said. Cork will win fairly handy;). Up the Dubs

davidfitz22

Rightwing wrote: »

Let's wait and see, shall we ?

And who said corkonians are arrogant

Mountainlad

davidfitz22 wrote: »

And who said corkonians are arrogant

Everybody, but given your man is from Limerick it's irrelevant.

Rightwing

Mountainlad wrote: »

Everybody, but given your man is from Limerick it's irrelevant.

Indeed, and I also must say I'm for Dublin in this match.

Mullet

I'm amazed that Dublin are been written off by many using such "buzz words" as tradition, inconsistency, freezing on the big day mmmm lads why don't you educate yourselves about Dublin hurling.

I certainly hope rte do not use Donal O'Grady in their coverage as during the Leinster Final the guy didn't know some of the Dublin players names.

Most of this Dublin team have plenty of minor and under 21 Leinster titles. They also have a tradition of beating "traditional hurling counties"

Dublin have plenty of experience on big match days league final win 2011 and we matched Tipp in the all Ireland semi the same year too. Some analysts have very short memories.

There are lads like Donal Og Cusack, Liam Sheedy Brian Cody who have praised what dublin has achieved in hurling but there plenty of hurling snobs out there hoping we will fall flat on our faces because they do not want to acknowledge that there is more to Dublin hurling then phisque and good conditioning. We have some talented hurlers too. It's time they got the respect they deserve.

Mountainlad

Mullet wrote: »

I'm amazed that Dublin are been written off by many using such "buzz words" as tradition, inconsistency, freezing on the big day mmmm lads why don't you educate yourselves about Dublin hurling.

I certainly hope rte do not use Donal O'Grady in their coverage as during the Leinster Final the guy didn't know some of the Dublin players names.

Most of this Dublin team have plenty of minor and under 21 Leinster titles. They also have a tradition of beating "traditional hurling counties"

Dublin have plenty of experience on big match days league final win 2011 and we matched Tipp in the all Ireland semi the same year too. Some analysts have very short memories.

There are lads like Donal Og Cusack, Liam Sheedy Brian Cody who have praised what dublin has achieved in hurling but there plenty of hurling snobs out there hoping we will fall flat on our faces because they do not want to acknowledge that there is more to Dublin hurling then phisque and good conditioning. We have some talented hurlers too. It's time they got the respect they deserve.

On the contrary I think there are more people backing Dublin than there are thiose backing against them.

m0ynihan

Moneymaker wrote: »

Expecting a good Cork crowd so lets hope our lot do their bit and give the lads the support they deserve.

There'd be a better Cork crowd if Ianród Éireann got their act together and added more trains!!

InchicoreDude

Mullet wrote: »

I'm amazed that Dublin are been written off by many using such "buzz words" as tradition, inconsistency, freezing on the big day mmmm lads why don't you educate yourselves about Dublin hurling.

I certainly hope rte do not use Donal O'Grady in their coverage as during the Leinster Final the guy didn't know some of the Dublin players names.

Most of this Dublin team have plenty of minor and under 21 Leinster titles. They also have a tradition of beating "traditional hurling counties"

Dublin have plenty of experience on big match days league final win 2011 and we matched Tipp in the all Ireland semi the same year too. Some analysts have very short memories.

There are lads like Donal Og Cusack, Liam Sheedy Brian Cody who have praised what dublin has achieved in hurling but there plenty of hurling snobs out there hoping we will fall flat on our faces because they do not want to acknowledge that there is more to Dublin hurling then phisque and good conditioning. We have some talented hurlers too. It's time they got the respect they deserve.

I agree with a fair bit of what you have written, but how is losing a semi final by 4 points matching Tipp? Was there a replay in that semi final?

InchicoreDude

Will there be a poll or this like there was for Mayo v Donegal?? Could be a nice idea.

Stoner

InchicoreDude wrote: »

Will there be a poll or this like there was for Mayo v Donegal?? Could be a nice idea.

I went for Mayo on the poll at half time.

InchicoreDude

Stoner wrote: »

I went for Mayo on the poll at half time.

aah thought it had been locked before that!

The_Kew_Tour

Cork GAA crowd get treated like crap yet again and the Dubs get 15 quid off if they make both games.

We all know who GAA want to win.

Rightwing

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Cork GAA crowd get treated like crap yet again and the Dubs get 15 quid off if they make both games.

We all know who GAA want to win.

They need to bring out some dublin fans,,,they had a mickey mouse attendance at the leinster final.

InchicoreDude

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Cork GAA crowd get treated like crap yet again and the Dubs get 15 quid off if they make both games.

We all know who GAA want to win.

You could always go to both games too. Go support your neighbours! :P

DoctaDee

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Cork GAA crowd get treated like crap yet again and the Dubs get 15 quid off if they make both games.

We all know who GAA want to win.

Rightwing wrote: »

They need to bring out some dublin fans,,,they had a mickey mouse attendance at the leinster final.

The chuckle brothers are back I see .... biggest attendance @ Leinster Final since 2006 on the back of 3 straight weekends of hurling

adrian522

Rightwing wrote: »

They need to bring out some dublin fans,,,they had a mickey mouse attendance at the leinster final.

Of course they did. Keep telling yourself that.

If the biggest Leinster final attendance since 2006 is "a mickey mouse" attendance than fair enough. You're spot on. As usual.

The_Kew_Tour

DoctaDee wrote: »

The chuckle brothers are back I see .... biggest attendance @ Leinster Final since 2006 on the back of 3 straight weekends of hurling

:rolleyes:

The fact ye only have to roll out of bed to get to Croker.

Ye have no idea how easy ye have it.

Not yer fault, but just not up to scratch with rest of us;)