Will RVP still be king of the strikers at the end of the season

upandcumming

I'd say David O'Sullivan will have more come the end. Only 8 games left though with 20 goals.

Speak Now

Bookies have done well with this market id say, cant believe how goal shy Soldado has been.

ricero

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Sturridge top goalscorer???????????????????????

lol

Not far off now !

Lol

mike65

Augmerson wrote: »

Yeah, so why don't you think he won't be top scorer?

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Cause he not good enough.

Happy to throw hundred on it if anyone likes.

Kew looks like being proven right about Sturridge! :pac:

Kirby

Hindsight and all that.

Although I do feel a bit sorry for Soldado. Did you see that miss in the Europe League? He's 3 yards out and its crossed straight to him and you are thinking "Goal" and it takes a bit of a bobble on the terrible pitch and he scoops it over the bar. You just knew he wouldn't score.

djPSB

jive wrote: »

I want to chime in on this one.

1) He's not as good as a lot of strikers in the EPL such as Aguero, Benteke, RVP, Rooney, Dzeko, Torres, Jovetic, Soldado, Lukaku, Suarez, Michu, Berbatov or attacking midfielders such as Bale, Hazard, Lampard, Cazorla

2) He makes decisions which make Walcott look like he has the footballing brain of Iniesta

3) Clubs like United, Chelsea, City and Arsenal are likely to create more goalscoring opportunities and score more goals than Liverpool

He's 20/1, I'd back him if I thought he was going to be top goalscorer. While stranger things have happened, there are far better players in the league and if they hit form they will leave him for dust. You can argue that he's better than some of the players in my list which is fair enough but I don't see him or Liverpool making any great shapes this season and it's usually a club that does well who possesses the top scorer. Most likely RVP or Aguero, add Rooney in the mix if he goes to Chelsea and Suarez if he goes to Arsenal.

Some absolute gems in this thread.

Saucy McKetchup

Johner wrote: »

I predict Rooney to score 30 goals! For Chelsea of course.

:pac:

Gbear

At one stage Suarez was on course for like 50 but it's exactly what you'd expect from a striker - peaks and troughs.

Liverpool have 11 games left so I'd imagine he'll still get close to 30.
Of course with him, he could easily bag a couple of hattricks and get closer to 40. We do still have Norwich left to play.

Sturridge has seemed like a more reliable goalscorer but with less of a tendency to score them in big clumps.

I wouldn't bet on him falling short of 25.

Aguero doesn't seem to be able to stay fit enough to keep the pace. I suspect it'll the two Liverpool lads well off in the distance.

Paulegend

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Sturridge top goalscorer???????????????????????

lol

just 5 away now

Kimbot

Sturridge has scored 32 in 39 games for us now is it?

Courtesy Flush

No one can touch the Liverpool front 2 at the moment

Hyzepher

Well its the back 2 that everyone is targeting

Speak Now

Yaya Touré has done well.

The_Kew_Tour

Hello

Dcully

Hyzepher wrote: »

Well its the back 2 that everyone is targeting

Well the thread is about strikers

I am pie

Soldado was absolutely awful against Norwich, Spurs are lucky they hung onto Adebayor or they would be nowhere.

Van Wolfswinkel was another that people were surprised didn't go to another team, has proved many a manager right who didn't sign him.

TheDoc

I am pie wrote: »

Soldado was absolutely awful against Norwich, Spurs are lucky they hung onto Adebayor or they would be nowhere.

Van Wolfswinkel was another that people were surprised didn't go to another team, has proved many a manager right who didn't sign him.

Have to say surprised and disappointed in Van Wolfpenis

Morzadec

djPSB wrote: »

Some absolute gems in this thread.

In fairness to a lot of the predictions here you could say 'to be fair - benefit of hindsight, predictions are difficult etc...'. For example I don't think anyone expected Soldado to be so poor, and while tipping for top scorer was maybe a bit much, we would have all expected him to bag close to 15 league goals.

But 2 names screamed out on that list to me as players supposedly better than Daniel Sturridge - Torres and Berbatov.

No allowances for hindsight here!

djPSB

Morzadec wrote: »

In fairness to a lot of the predictions here you could say 'to be fair - benefit of hindsight, predictions are difficult etc...'. For example I don't think anyone expected Soldado to be so poor, and while tipping for top scorer was maybe a bit much, we would have all expected him to bag close to 15 league goals.

But 2 names screamed out on that list to me as players supposedly better than Daniel Sturridge - Torres and Berbatov.

No allowances for hindsight here!

Don't mind anyone being wrong tbh.

It's just the disrespectfulness of some of the posts is hilarious.

dreamers75

yeah so Soldado

At least Michu has been injured :pac:

Hindsight is a great thing.

Never in a million years did I think Liverpool would have the 1st and 2nd top scorers in the league at this stage.

Especially considering Suarez missed 6 games

and Sturridge missed 8 games...

Courtesy Flush

RVP might bail in the summer if theres no champions league football at United

Vinz Mesrine

jive wrote: »

I want to chime in on this one.

1) He's not as good as a lot of strikers in the EPL such as Aguero, Benteke, RVP, Rooney, Dzeko, Torres, Jovetic, Soldado, Lukaku, Suarez, Michu, Berbatov or attacking midfielders such as Bale, Hazard, Lampard, Cazorla

2) He makes decisions which make Walcott look like he has the footballing brain of Iniesta

3) Clubs like United, Chelsea, City and Arsenal are likely to create more goalscoring opportunities and score more goals than Liverpool

He's 20/1, I'd back him if I thought he was going to be top goalscorer. While stranger things have happened, there are far better players in the league and if they hit form they will leave him for dust. You can argue that he's better than some of the players in my list which is fair enough but I don't see him or Liverpool making any great shapes this season and it's usually a club that does well who possesses the top scorer. Most likely RVP or Aguero, add Rooney in the mix if he goes to Chelsea and Suarez if he goes to Arsenal.

This is surely the greatest post in the history of this forum.

dreamers75

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

This is surely the greatest post in the history of this forum.

So did you and all of the other Liverpool fans bet on this cracking tip? Even each way?

Rayne Wooney

Is it just me or is it certain group of fans reviving all the old threads

They shall be henceforth known as the hindsight brigade, dishing out hindsight lessons to the not so hindsightedly posters


Danny Welbeck has just 6 goals less than Aguero :pac: top striker is our Danny Welbz

Utopia Parkway

Vinz Mesrine wrote: »

This is surely the greatest post in the history of this forum.

In fairness a lot of people on the thread left with Sturridge pie all over their face. Even though he was in great scoring form in the 2nd half of last season there was still a lot of "he's just not very good" or "he just went through a purple patch" type posts.

I guess Soldado has been the big disappointment. I remember arguing with a Liverpool fan at the beginning of the season who said he was in a different class to Sturridge. I disagreed strongly but I never thought he'd be as "meh" as he has been.

budgemook

dreamers75 wrote: »

So did you and all of the other Liverpool fans bet on this cracking tip? Even each way?

I backed Suarez to be top scorer at 18/1. Now I'm worried Sturridge will catch him.

FWIW I don't think Suarez is out of form either, has just been switched to the wing.

LiamoSail

jive wrote: »

I want to chime in on this one.

1) He's not as good as a lot of strikers in the EPL such as Aguero, Benteke, RVP, Rooney, Dzeko, Torres, Jovetic, Soldado, Lukaku, Suarez, Michu, Berbatov or attacking midfielders such as Bale, Hazard, Lampard, Cazorla

2) He makes decisions which make Walcott look like he has the footballing brain of Iniesta

3) Clubs like United, Chelsea, City and Arsenal are likely to create more goalscoring opportunities and score more goals than Liverpool

He's 20/1, I'd back him if I thought he was going to be top goalscorer. While stranger things have happened, there are far better players in the league and if they hit form they will leave him for dust. You can argue that he's better than some of the players in my list which is fair enough but I don't see him or Liverpool making any great shapes this season and it's usually a club that does well who possesses the top scorer. Most likely RVP or Aguero, add Rooney in the mix if he goes to Chelsea and Suarez if he goes to Arsenal.

Irrespective of how things have turned out, I think this is still a good post.

It's very easy to say that the opinion has been prove incorrect with hindsight, but at least a well constructed point of view has been put forward as oppose to a simple "Sturridge, lol" which adds nothing to the discussion board

For what it worth, while I wouldn't have been as pessimistic about Sturridge as the above, I'd never have even considered him in with a chance of finishing as top goalscorer myself

niallo27

LiamoSail wrote: »

Irrespective of how things have turned out, I think this is still a good post.

It's very easy to say that the opinion has been prove incorrect with hindsight, but at least a well constructed point of view has been put forward as oppose to a simple "Sturridge, lol" which adds nothing to the discussion board

For what it worth, while I wouldn't have been as pessimistic about Sturridge as the above, I'd never have even considered him in with a chance of finishing as top goalscorer myself

He was wrong in all his points though and why have a pop at Walcott. Really unrated player if you ask me. Arsenal would be favourites for the league with him in the side.

LiamoSail

niallo27 wrote: »

He was wrong in all his points though and why have a pop at Walcott. Really unrated player if you ask me. Arsenal would be favourites for the league with him in the side.

He was wrong yea, and who isn't from time to time? Have a look back through the Liverpool thread when Sturridge was signed, it was hardly like people were delighted by the prospect

Agree regarding Walcott. I've completely changed my own opinion of him I've the last year or two

My point was that the above at least puts forward a legitimate argument, and ones that's constructive towards debate. In the context of a discussion board, it was a good post IMO. It certainly adds a lot more then the scoffing posts

niallo27

LiamoSail wrote: »

He was wrong yea, and who isn't from time to time? Have a look back through the Liverpool thread when Sturridge was signed, it was hardly like people were delighted by the prospect

Agree regarding Walcott. I've completely changed my own opinion of him I've the last year or two

My point was that the above at least puts forward a legitimate argument, and ones that's constructive towards debate. In the context of a discussion board, it was a good post IMO. It certainly adds a lot more then the scoffing posts

Some liverpool fans put forward legitimate arguments why he was a good stiker and were laughed at. They are entitled to be a bit smug. I always rated him myself. I never though he would be this good though.

K-9

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Is it just me or is it certain group of fans reviving all the old threads

They shall be henceforth known as the hindsight brigade, dishing out hindsight lessons to the not so hindsightedly posters


Danny Welbeck has just 6 goals less than Aguero :pac: top striker is our Danny Welbz

I was reading back and wondering would anybody mention Wellbeck, you got there in the end!

I thought Sturridge might get 20 goals counting the cups, surprised a good few scoffed at the suggestion that he might get a few more.

There's a bit of the usual snobbery at English players going on when he gets mentioned, his stats are something else, a goal every 83 minutes, to put it in perspective:

StatsBomb | We Need to Talk About Daniel Sturridge

He'd be something else if he kept that type of record up, very few can, but he's established himself thais season and wont be scoffed at when it comes to this thread again!

Sturridge and Suarez are averaging 3 goals or assists per game which is something else, they are on track for 60 goals between them this season, can't remember a partnership as lethal as that.

LiamoSail

niallo27 wrote: »

Some liverpool fans put forward legitimate arguments why he was a good stiker and were laughed at. They are entitled to be a bit smug. I always rated him myself. I never though he would be this good though.

An fair play to them, they were bang on.

The Liverpool thread is a good example. We can all go back through that and pick the posts that in hindsight were wrong, and god knows there's plenty. When it's the "Rodgers/Sturridge lol" etc ones, then fair enough, but going back and picking ones that were well reasoned, if wrong is a bit pointless IMO, because opposing points, backed up rationally are what makes a discussion board

Morzadec

LiamoSail wrote: »

He was wrong yea, and who isn't from time to time? Have a look back through the Liverpool thread when Sturridge was signed, it was hardly like people were delighted by the prospect

Agree regarding Walcott. I've completely changed my own opinion of him I've the last year or two

My point was that the above at least puts forward a legitimate argument, and ones that's constructive towards debate. In the context of a discussion board, it was a good post IMO. It certainly adds a lot more then the scoffing posts

Yeah but Torres and Berbatov? C'mon...

LiamoSail

Morzadec wrote: »

Yeah but Torres and Berbatov? C'mon...

I'm not disputing the notion that he's wrong.

I'd imagine though if 14 months ago there was a poll in the LFC thread regarding who people would prefer, Torres or Sturrridge, it'd have been relatively tight

The_Kew_Tour

@SG8

Thanks for the PM. Love it.

Dont be shy and share it in here;)

The_Kew_Tour

ricero wrote: »

Not far off now !

Lol

:D:D

mike65

Its been a pretty rubbish year for the new strikers -

Negredo - 9 (dunno what happened there)
S. Eto'o - 9
Soldado - 6
M. Arnautović 4
S. Jovetić - 3
Elmander - 1
Van Wolfswinkle - 1
Altidore - 1

William Bony without question the hit after a quiet enough start 16 goals

Liam O

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

@SG8

Thanks for the PM. Love it.

Dont be shy and share it in here;)

Got one off him a few months ago too, paid it no heed. Pathetic really.

King of the sick notes more like.

He'll need to be carefully looked after if he's to regain his fitness of a few seasons ago again.