Hull City to be renamed

ollaetta

http://www.itv.com/sport/football/article/2013-08-09/assem-allam-rebrands-premier-league-club-as-hull-city-tigers/

"My dislike for the word 'City' is because it is common. City is also associated with Leicester, Bristol, Manchester and many other clubs.
"I don't like being like everyone else. I want the club to be special. It is about identity. City is a lousy identity. Hull City Association Football Club is so long."

No, just no. Sick to death of these foreign owners and their crazy ideas.

RikkFlair

"Hull City Association Football Club is so long."

Yeah and now it will be Hull City Tigers Association Football Club.

roanoke

In further news Paul McShane will be formally renamed Pablo McRamos from the start of the new season.

EdenHazard

Probably the least interesting thread on Boards this year. Who cares like its just a name, plus Hull City Tigers has more identity than Hull City, which as the guy says is very boring. Buuuut the kicker is it makes no difference, Hull City/Tigers whatever you wanna call it are not marketable no matter which way you spin it.

iDave

Always found these Amercanised names like Tigers, Dolphins, Cowboys, Wizards etc very cringeworthy. Hope its not the beginning of a trend in football.

MagicIRL

Paddy Power on the ball as usual with this gem.

GLaDOS

Sounds very like a franchise, which tends to not go down well this side of the Atlantic.

WesternZulu

ollaetta wrote: »

No, just no. Sick to death of these foreign owners and their crazy ideas.

From http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23629379:
Egypt-born Allam, who moved to Hull in 1968 to study and has since set up a multi-million pound company in nearby Melton,

He's not really what you would call a foreign owner, still a stupid decision all the same!

ollaetta

EdenHazard wrote: »

Probably the least interesting thread on Boards this year.

Maybe it is but is that because it’s a lesser club most people here don’t follow? I just think it’s a sad illustration of the way non-English owners such as this crowd, the Venkys and others treat clubs as playthings. Manchester Red Devils Franchise v Chelsea Smirnoffs anyone?

Lovely Bloke

Dragons -v- Tigers this season.

Football is dying.

homerjay2005

RikkFlair wrote: »

"Hull City Association Football Club is so long."

Yeah and now it will be Hull City Tigers Association Football Club.

youve missed the point completely.....the AFC will no longer be there.

iDave wrote: »

Always found these Amercanised names like Tigers, Dolphins, Cowboys, Wizards etc very cringeworthy. Hope its not the beginning of a trend in football.

Hull have always had this association, so it has nothing to do with America at all.

their badge after all is -

Skinnykenyan

This is ridiculous but with the commercialisation of modern day football it's clear to see that this could become a trend in European football.

And people that embrace a commercialised brand of football can't then turn around and rubbish this idea.

Clubs need to increase revenue streams to try keep with the big boys or at least keep there heads above water. And other means of doing this will become commonplace now such as rebranding, stadiums renamed, training grounds and training kit being sponsored etc. how ridiculous does that sound, training kit being sponsored?

But it's a money maker. So big up yourself hull city tigers and I look forward to seeing the London lions and Liverpool looters in the future..... Noottttt!

Lovely Bloke

Skinnykenyan wrote: »

Liverpool looters

SEPT 23 1989

City is a lousy identity:rolleyes:

Skinnykenyan

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

And I mean every offence to Liverpool fans haha

RikkFlair

Queen's Park Wheeler Dealers

Amirani

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

City is a lousy identity:rolleyes:

It is a bit when so many teams have it.

There's a perfect solution though. Call themselves Hull FC. That's pretty unique?

Corholio

Its not gonna matter much really. The places where the clubs are featured like Sky and media never put the last part of the name anyway. Stil, just gonna be Hull City. Although I can see why Hull supporters would be annoyed.

Paulegend

iDave wrote: »

Always found these Amercanised names like Tigers, Dolphins, Cowboys, Wizards etc very cringeworthy. Hope its not the beginning of a trend in football.

why is everyone saying its "americanizing" when the rugby league has been doing this for years

Neil3030

If I remember my leaving cert accounting, club accounts were different to company accounts - would this have any relevance here? Would changing from a club to a company have any benefit, financially? Though I presume Hull City AFC, despite being a "club", were always actually a company, no?

circadian

I worked with a guy from Hull who didn't know the city's name was actually Kingston upon Hull.

Mental.

Anyway, rebranding is cack, what happened at Cardiff is a bit nuts. Imagine changing Manchester United from red to blue.

Skinnykenyan

I'd be of the opinion that all clubs are businesses because they conduct business? They must have accounts to present to the league and pay tax etc so I'm sure they would be a business. Football is a business it's all about profits when it comes down to it

Skinnykenyan

circadian wrote: »

I worked with a guy from Hull who didn't know the city's name was actually Kingston upon Hull.

Mental.

Anyway, rebranding is cack, what happened at Cardiff is a bit nuts. Imagine changing Manchester United from red to blue.

Cardiff were changed to make them more marketable, united are probably the most marketable club around

MagicIRL

Skinnykenyan wrote: »

Cardiff were changed to make them more marketable, united are probably the most marketable club around

Point. Missed. Completely.

Paulegend

circadian wrote: »

I worked with a guy from Hull who didn't know the city's name was actually Kingston upon Hull.

Mental.

Anyway, rebranding is cack, what happened at Cardiff is a bit nuts. Imagine changing Manchester United from red to blue.

cardiff changed because they wanted to be the red welsh team in the premiership. its a marketing move that could well be fruitful

Amirani

Neil3030 wrote: »

If I remember my leaving cert accounting, club accounts were different to company accounts - would this have any relevance here? Would changing from a club to a company have any benefit, financially? Though I presume Hull City AFC, despite being a "club", were always actually a company, no?

All professional football teams would be companies rather than "clubs".

Paulegend

MagicIRL wrote: »

Point. Missed. Completely.

i have no doubt that hull tigers will be a recognisable brand in years to come. its a great idea that they can market

Skinnykenyan

How do you make that out he said rebranding is cack but it's not sometimes its necessary and then said what happened at Cardiff is nuts? Now I don't agree with changing a football club but I can see why it was done and I don't think it's nuts one bit if it changes the fortunes of cardiff. Football clubs are businesses and rebranding is necessary sometimes.

Headshot

Yorkshire Orange

circadian

Paulegend wrote: »

cardiff changed because they wanted to be the red welsh team in the premiership. its a marketing move that could well be fruitful

They changed the colour because red is more marketable in Malaysia and SE Asia.

It's kind of harsh that fans that pay through the nose for season tickets/tickets and have supported the team their whole lives have a major part of the clubs heritage and identity changed to suit those on the other side of the planet.

circadian

Headshot wrote: »

Yorkshire Orange

Is that their name on Pro Evo? :pac:

iDave

Paulegend wrote: »

why is everyone saying its "americanizing" when the rugby league has been doing this for years

The genesis of it was in America. Anyway at least RL teams like Hull FC and Hull KR resisted the temptation.

Mr.Nice Guy

Hope Mike Ashley isn't getting any ideas.

RayCon

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Hope Mike Ashley isn't getting any ideas.

Newcastle Humbugs ......

citytillidie

NiallSparky wrote: »

All professional football teams would be companies rather than "clubs".

Well United are not a club

castletownman

Great. There goes the clubs unique fact. They are no longer the only club in England where none of the letters that spell its name can be coloured in.

End of an era.

GLaDOS

castletownman wrote: »

Great. There goes the clubs unique fact. They are no longer the only club in England where none of the letters that spell its name can be coloured in.

End of an era.

Well Technically their name before was Hull City AFC...

NiallSparky

NiallSparky wrote: »

There's a perfect solution though. Call themselves Hull FC. That's pretty unique?

Wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hull_F.C..

IvySlayer

The owners hope this name change will be a roaring success.

Richard Hillman

All the fans on SSN seem positive about it.

Underground

If a club agrees to sell its soul to the devil it leaves itself vulnerable to stupid sh*te like this. Not the first and certainly won't be the last time something like this happens.

Coillte_Bhoy

Richard Hillman wrote: »

All the fans on SSN seem positive about it.

And of course ssn wouldnt want to spin it any other way would they?:rolleyes:

Are you seriously judging the hull city fans opinion on this on a ssn piece?? At times i give up

smileyj1987

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Hope Mike Ashley isn't getting any ideas.

Sports Direct Newcastle FTW !!!!

EuropeanSon

People are very quick to blame it on a foreign owner. He's not a foreign owner, he's a wealthy local businessman, and what seems to be a fairly minor change strikes me as a very shrewd move. The fans won't really care much as it's so small a change (not like the Cardiff "dragons") and they can probably see it will be beneficial.

People are up in arms about this just because they love whining about foreign owners and commercialisation and how the game is so evil these days. They don't really care about three letters in Hull's name and the fact that their nickname is now officially part of their name.

Coillte_Bhoy

A quick perusal of the Hull fans forums would suggest they are far from happy with this, contrary to what some posters seem to think

Oranage2

Am I the only one who likes it - FC, City etc are so boring, football needs to be more jazzy!

Red Kev

circadian wrote: »

I worked with a guy from Hull who didn't know the city's name was actually Kingston upon Hull.

Mental.

To be fair most people don't realise that Dublin as a county is split into 4 different counties.

Paulegend wrote: »

cardiff changed because they wanted to be the red welsh team in the premiership. its a marketing move that could well be fruitful

Yeah, but Cardiff's nickname was "The Bluebirds" so it was more than a matter of changing jerseys. Changing the teams primary colour is a huge identity change, as is changing it's name from "Hull City" to something else.

I think it's a bit disrespectful to the clubs history and supporters TBH.

Coillte_Bhoy

Oranage2 wrote: »

Am I the only one who likes it - FC, City etc are so boring, football needs to be more jazzy!

No it doesnt, what on earth does that mean anyway

Coillte_Bhoy

Red Kev wrote: »

To be fair most people don't realise that Dublin as a county is split into 4 different counties.

Not quite, its divided into 4 local govt areas, it's still County Dublin but i see your point

Reekwind

Red Kev wrote: »

Yeah, but Cardiff's nickname was "The Bluebirds" so it was more than a matter of changing jerseys. Changing the teams primary colour is a huge identity change, as is changing it's name from "Hull City" to something else.

I think it's a bit disrespectful to the clubs history and supporters TBH.

There is a difference: many, many clubs have changed colours over the past century. Often the new colours become more iconic than the old: think of the all red/white of Liverpool/Leeds

Conversely, and off the top of my head, I can't think of any clubs that have simply changed their name. Without moving locations or merging or something similar

Darkglasses

Oranage2 wrote: »

Am I the only one who likes it - FC, City etc are so boring, football needs to be more jazzy!

I like it too but I didn't want to admit it