Ireland u20 6 Nations and Junior World Cup 2014

ormond lad

Highlights of Munster Bristol game below
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CQMIFhyjrE&list=PLwg7FG5P7M5goLVxWak5b6bSgdeK3swMU

Leinster5

Richie Allen is going back to the Leinster u20 set-up supposedly. Don't know if I believe it as it would be some turnaround.

Woody1997

Leinster5 wrote: »

Richie Allen is going back to the Leinster u20 set-up supposedly. Don't know if I believe it as it would be some turnaround.

Why would it be such a turnaround? Was he dropped or something?

Leinster5

Woody1997 wrote: »

Why would it be such a turnaround? Was he dropped or something?

He was dropped from Leinster 20s a few weeks ago, and then started training with the Connacht 20s side only for Leinster to prevent him playing for them. And supposedly he's back training for them.

Hagz

15: Cian Kelleher (St. Michael's College)
14: Sean Coughlan (Blackrock College)
13: Gary Ringrose (Blackrock College)
12: Gerard Young (Belvedere College SJ)
11: Ian Fitzpatrick (The Kings Hospital)
10: Ross Byrne (St. Michael's College)
9: Nick McCarthy (St. Michael's College)
1: Peadar Timmins (UCD)
2: Michael Triggs (Kilkenny College)
3: Josh Murphy (St. Michael's College)
4: Ross Moloney (St. Michael's College) CAPTAIN
5: Stephen Gardiner (Gorey RFC)
6: Oisin Heffernan (Cistercian College Roscrea)
7: Shane Delahunt (UCD)
8: Ivan Soroka (Belvedere College SJ)
REPLACEMENTS:
16: Dylan Donnellan (Clongowes Wood College SJ)
17: Denis Coulson (St. Michael's College)
18: Craig Trenier (Terenure College)
19: Stephen Keelan (Clongowes Wood College SJ)
20: Jack O'Neill (Castleknock College)
21: Charlie Rock (Blackrock College)
22: Conor McKeon (Gonzaga College SJ)
23: Stephen O'Neill (Terenure College)

EDIT: Obviously the Leinster site got the numbers jumbled up, but I'm not arsed fixing it.

Hagz

The Leinster Academy side will look interesting considering a good bunch of Academy players will be held back for the Saints game.

Younger

It is Leicester (Tigers) academy they're playing, not Leinster academy.

Hagz

Ah so it is. Well that's disappointing.

Quint2010

Interesting to see Dardis and Byrne (Adam) have been omitted. Are they needed for the first team?

Hagz

Quint2010 wrote: »

Interesting to see Dardis and Byrne (Adam) have been omitted. Are they needed for the first team?

I would imagine like last week they're being held back for the Senior team yes.

I'm happy to see Coughlan on the wing. I thought he was good there for Blackrock.

Tox56

Interesting that Ross Byrne is ahead of Conor McKeon even though he is still U19.. Very interesting

BillsBarn

I wouldn't consider Byrne to be ahead of McKeon, this is just another game in a series of warmup games.

First string team won't be really known until the first interpro and even then there will be one or two missing due to injury.

jamiedav2011

Is that the game that's on before the seniors play Northampton on Fri?

ormond lad

jamiedav2011 wrote: »

Is that the game that's on before the seniors play Northampton on Fri?

yes. Leinster 19s play in Donnybrook at 4 followed by senior game at 7

Younger

Originally Posted by jamiedav2011 View Post
Is that the game that's on before the seniors play Northampton on Fri?


No the 19's are playing Friday. The 20's are tomorrow thursday

ormond lad

Younger wrote: »

Originally Posted by jamiedav2011 View Post
Is that the game that's on before the seniors play Northampton on Fri?


No the 19's are playing Friday. The 20's are tomorrow thursday

yeah your right. got teams mixed up.

lurtz

Robb and Fromm are both out with injury.
Dardis and Byrne still heavily involved with the senior squad

schools rugby

Where and when is the 20s match on ?

Younger

schools rugby wrote: »

Where and when is the 20s match on ?

Ashbourne Thursday 14.30

DaraOC

Interesting choice at seven ? I know Triggs has started the last two matches at 6

Woody1997

How is the a academy team put together? I don't think there's enough in the academy for a full twenty three, and there would be a few of them still involved with the senior team

Hagz

Woody1997 wrote: »

How is the a academy team put together? I don't think there's enough in the academy for a full twenty three, and there would be a few of them still involved with the senior team

It's Leicester's Academy not Leinster's. I'll edit it.

Leinster5

For the life of me, I can't understand how the following players aren't involved in that squad :
Fergal Cleary
Richie Allen
David Fortune
Joey Darcy

I'm aware Cleary is with the 19s, but surely he's good enough for that squad if Young is starting at 12. I'm also aware that Allen has clearly had several run-ins with the Leinster coaches, since he hasn't joined up with the squad even with the Exile player being sent home.

BillsBarn

8-5 to Leinster so far. Try scored by Ringrose of a well worked move, conversion missed. Ringrose got a pen too.

Cleary is still in school, so he isn't available to the 20s.

BillsBarn

13-10 to Leinster. Try from Ian Fitzpatrick in the corner.

irishbucsfan

Leinster5 wrote: »

For the life of me, I can't understand how the following players aren't involved in that squad :
Fergal Cleary
Richie Allen
David Fortune
Joey Darcy

I'm aware Cleary is with the 19s, but surely he's good enough for that squad if Young is starting at 12. I'm also aware that Allen has clearly had several run-ins with the Leinster coaches, since he hasn't joined up with the squad even with the Exile player being sent home.

What age is D'Arcy?

ormond lad

Leinster5 wrote: »

For the life of me, I can't understand how the following players aren't involved in that squad :
Fergal Cleary
Richie Allen
David Fortune
Joey Darcy

I'm aware Cleary is with the 19s, but surely he's good enough for that squad if Young is starting at 12. I'm also aware that Allen has clearly had several run-ins with the Leinster coaches, since he hasn't joined up with the squad even with the Exile player being sent home.

Coaches feel Cleary is better off at 19s. Cleary they know better..
20s is very strong every year and this year even more so so of course people will feel there is a few players who should be involved.

BillsBarn

u20s won 20-13.

Tries by Keelan, Ringrose and Fitzpatrick.

BillsBarn

ormond lad wrote: »

Coaches feel Cleary is better off at 19s. Cleary they know better..
20s is very strong every year and this year even more so so of course people will feel there is a few players who should be involved.

Cleary is only going into 6th year, can't remember if there has ever been a player doing the leaving cert and being involved with the 20s.

Plus Young is like 3rd choice at 12 behind Robb and Fromm.

Darcy and Fortune are solid players but nothing special.

ormond lad

BillsBarn wrote: »

Cleary is only going into 6th year, can't remember if there has ever been a player doing the leaving cert and being involved with the 20s.

Plus Young is like 3rd choice at 12 behind Robb and Fromm.

Darcy and Fortune are solid players but nothing special.

Sean O Brien did for Connacht last season. There has been other players who were still in school who played 20s. There is 1 or 2 in Munsters squad
The Leinster coaches clearly feel different about the players you name

Hagz

Fortune was certainly the best 7 I saw in the School's comp.

BillsBarn

Darcy and Fortune arent involved with any squads. I disagree Rory Moloney was by far the most impressive 7 in the schools cup.

For leinster there hasn't been any guys still in school who have also played under 20s, hell usually not so many guys eligible for u19 would have skipped it and went straight to u20 level. (Murphy, Dardis, McCarthy, Byrne, Heffernan etc.)

BillsBarn

ormond lad wrote: »

Sean O Brien did for Connacht last season. There has been other players who were still in school who played 20s. There is 1 or 2 in Munsters squad
The Leinster coaches clearly feel different about the players you name

different about who? Darcy? Fortune? neither are involved with Leinster.

Robb and Fromm are injured atm.

Hagz

BillsBarn wrote: »

Darcy and Fortune arent involved with any squads. I disagree Rory Moloney was by far the most impressive 7 in the schools cup.

Fair enough. I thought he outplayed Molony when they met but that's just my opinion.

BillsBarn

Hagz wrote: »

Fair enough. I thought he outplayed Molony when they met but that's just my opinion.

and one of them is currently playing pro rugby.. the player who was "outplayed" in your eyes :rolleyes:

Hagz

BillsBarn wrote: »

and one of them is currently playing pro rugby.. the player who was "outplayed" in your eyes :rolleyes:

Rory Moloney is in the Connacht Academy yes, and I have no idea if David Fortune intends to continue to play rugby or whether he's finished school.

Believe it or not, that doesn't suddenly alter my opinion. I watched the match and came to the conclusion that I preferred Fortune as a 7 to Moloney on the day. I came to that conclusion because I saw very little breakdown work from Moloney (he didn't make a single turn-over) and not much impressive defensive work. He appeared to favour the wide channels and he linked up well with the backs. Fortune on the other hand made turn-overs, got heavily involved in the dirty work and made some strong hits.

That's not a slight on Moloney. If you are bothered enough, which I hope you aren't, you'll find that I have had nothing but positive things to say about Moloney, and I think he's one for the future.

Your rolled eyes by the way, are not only juvenile, but completely inapt.

BillsBarn

and yet time and again, not only moloney but several other players have been preferred over fortune by Leinster and other provinces.

Fortune is a solid player who benefited from playing with an incredibly strong rock pack.

Hagz

BillsBarn wrote: »

and yet time and again, not only moloney but several other players have been preferred over fortune by Leinster and other provinces.

Fortune is a solid player who benefited from playing with an incredibly strong rock pack.

I haven't disagreed with any of this. All I said was that I thought he was the most impressive openside in the school's competition, and I stressed that it was a personal opinion.

Hagz

Leicester started strongly and enjoyed the best of the early exchanges and some accurate passing set up their full-back for the opening try in the first quarter.
The home side reacted well, centre Gary Ringrose kicking for position and retreating to collect a wayward clearance to beat the first man up and accelerate into the right corner in the 18th minute.
Leinster were living off scraps of possession but they took the lead when Ringrose struck a penalty for offside on one of their few attacks to make it 8-5 on the half hour.
Then, openside Michael Triggs was binned for illegal play at a maul as Leicester looked to rumble to the line. The English club could not make the extra man pay before the break.
They didn't have to wait too long as their number eight grounded over the line from a lineout and maul for a two-point lead in the 40th minute.
Captain Ross Molony, a standout performer with Timmins, was involved in putting Leinster on the front-foot for left wing Ian Fitzpatrick to beat the last defender with pace and footwork.
It wasn't long before Ringrose provided the footwork, Fitzpatrick the speed and Stephen Keelan the support play to find the corner in the 61st minute for fly-half Ross Byrne to make it 20-10 from the conversion.
It looked like the job was done only for a Leicester replacement to tap-and-go for a soft try, converted by their out-half, and Leinster had to survive a late scrum scare through the good work of Shane Delahunt, moved from hooker to loose-head.

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hype101

Is this Stephen Gardiner?.. Big Unit!.. Does he have one or two years at 20s?

hype101

Dam it, how dya upload an actual picture.. Rookie stuff

ormond lad

hype101 wrote: »

Is this Stephen Gardiner?.. Big Unit!.. Does he have one or two years at 20s?

In last year at 20s this season

hype101

ormond lad wrote: »

In last year at 20s this season

Christ, there seems a lot of good second rows in this crop.. Properly big too.. John Madigan is nearly 19 stone and is 6'6 n then some.. Bodes well

Hagz

hype101 wrote: »

Dam it, how dya upload an actual picture.. Rookie stuff

Right-click the image and click copy image. I think you copied the link address.

hype101

Hagz wrote: »

Right-click the image and click copy image. I think you copied the link address.

Ya tried it but it only quoted the the URL and then a lil blue box with a question mark.. Ak sorted it out anyway.. Tippa the cap

ormond lad

Munster squad named for game tonight against UCC.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/12205.php
Mikey Lynch, Sean McGee, Max Abbott, Ben Burns, Darren Coady, Rory Burke, James Maxwell, Patrick Kearns, Darragh Moloney, John Madigan, Lee Nicholas, Tadhg Arrigan, Aidan Butler, Sonny Dwyer, Jack O’Donoghue, Ryan Foley, Aaron Atkinson, Aidan Barron, Shane Airey, Gearoid Lyons, Adrian Enright, Greg O’Shea, Ned Hodson, Sam Sterling, Mark Healy, Dan Goggin, Alex Wotton, Seamus Keating, David Johnston.

All academy players included for first time this summer.

clubrug

ormond lad wrote: »

Munster squad named for game tonight against UCC.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/12205.php
Mikey Lynch, Sean McGee, Max Abbott, Ben Burns, Darren Coady, Rory Burke, James Maxwell, Patrick Kearns, Darragh Moloney, John Madigan, Lee Nicholas, Tadhg Arrigan, Aidan Butler, Sonny Dwyer, Jack O’Donoghue, Ryan Foley, Aaron Atkinson, Aidan Barron, Shane Airey, Gearoid Lyons, Adrian Enright, Greg O’Shea, Ned Hodson, Sam Sterling, Mark Healy, Dan Goggin, Alex Wotton, Seamus Keating, David Johnston.

All academy players included for first time this summer.

Appears to be a couple of new additions, guessing Conor Glynn injured, so Darren Coady formerly Waterpark comes in, was rumours that he was Connacht way at one stage. See Aidee Barron there, really think he should of been there last year, has something different, great footballer and delighted to see Mark Healy, really hope he gets treated well, thought they messed him about last year, fine player, was excellent when playing munster youths, very consistent and J1 with Kanturk sure to of helped.

Looking at the clip from the Bristol game, wonder did they so much work on tackling in Rockwell, from what I heard they did next to none last year there, integral part and just felt in the highlights there were some quite poor efforts, but unfair I guess to go on highlights, but poor all the same. Really hope that backline clicks this year, some fine talent there, think they didn't fully achieve their potential last year.

One thing I could not figure this year is how they did not have Diarmuid Dee in the panel, was disappointed, fine rugby player and of course would love a few more club lads, albeit a talented lot hope they have a great interpro and enjoy it.

mrpdap

ormond lad wrote: »

Munster squad named for game tonight against UCC.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/12205.php
Mikey Lynch, Sean McGee, Max Abbott, Ben Burns, Darren Coady, Rory Burke, James Maxwell, Patrick Kearns, Darragh Moloney, John Madigan, Lee Nicholas, Tadhg Arrigan, Aidan Butler, Sonny Dwyer, Jack O’Donoghue, Ryan Foley, Aaron Atkinson, Aidan Barron, Shane Airey, Gearoid Lyons, Adrian Enright, Greg O’Shea, Ned Hodson, Sam Sterling, Mark Healy, Dan Goggin, Alex Wotton, Seamus Keating, David Johnston.

All academy players included for first time this summer.

Handy win for Munster over 3 30 min 'halves'
Sterling is a serious bit of stuff.

ormond lad

clubrug wrote: »

Appears to be a couple of new additions, guessing Conor Glynn injured, so Darren Coady formerly Waterpark comes in, was rumours that he was Connacht way at one stage. See Aidee Barron there, really think he should of been there last year, has something different, great footballer and delighted to see Mark Healy, really hope he gets treated well, thought they messed him about last year, fine player, was excellent when playing munster youths, very consistent and J1 with Kanturk sure to of helped.
Looking at the clip from the Bristol game, wonder did they so much work on tackling in Rockwell, from what I heard they did next to none last year there, integral part and just felt in the highlights there were some quite poor efforts, but unfair I guess to go on highlights, but poor all the same. Really hope that backline clicks this year, some fine talent there, think they didn't fully achieve their potential last year.
One thing I could not figure this year is how they did not have Diarmuid Dee in the panel, was disappointed, fine rugby player and of course would love a few more club lads, albeit a talented lot hope they have a great interpro and enjoy it.

Glynn is injured. Got injured in game v Bristol.
Coady had been with Connacht for a short while I think.
Good to see Healy there. Very talented footballer.
Dee is a good player but don't think he is better than who is there already.

ormond lad

mrpdap wrote: »

Handy win for Munster over 3 30 min 'halves'
Sterling is a serious bit of stuff.

In what way? How did Sam do and do you think he'll start interpros?
What was result of game?