Trying to find Puppy Jack Russell

Rick14613

I do have time for a new dog. I do not want to undertake any baggage because it would mean having to provide more reassurance and wonder what the dog would be up to next etc. I know that I managed to do all that with my current rescue dog, and I know that having a puppy is the easier route. I would take a rescue dog again but not now. I think that having company will be great for my dog, and a new puppy in each other. I do not expect my dog to train the new one, and I can afford to train it and give it more company for the first few months. I do not think that all rescue dogs have baggage, but then how would I know until I've had them a while.
I do think that she would enjoy a new puppy as she is extremely agile, fast, jumpy etc, she loves to play and runs like a hare or a horse sometimes including the bounding jumps. She is the first one up on sunny mornings, and she often eats at midnite or 2am or for that again she could eat at 8pm. She is very very sad if she ever gets left alone in the house, but she never does anything other than nearly knock you off your feet if you are the first home. She gets lots of attention, and gives plenty.

Tranceypoo

loveisdivine wrote: »

So lets get this straight, you want -

A "cheap dog" that is top quality
But not so cheap that its from a rescue and may have "issues"
You think a boisterous puppy will get on great with your older dog
But a rescue dog would be too stressful for it.
You dont have time for a rescue dog but you have plenty of time to train a puppy.

You seem to be a bit all over the place with what you really want. You need to think and long and hard about whats really important to you.

If your current dog is quite old and you are concerned about stressing her and/or having enough time for a puppy then why don't you let your current dog live out her days stress free and then think about getting a new dog once she's gone.

Totally agree with this, I've been so confused reading your posts OP, you are a mass of contradictions in my opinion and what I really don't understand is why you want another dog at all, as above poster says why not just let your current dog live out her days stress free?

Rick14613

She is used to mixing with other people's puppies and having them stay over for a few days. She would be better off with a doggie friend staying permanently. Why do you think she will have terrible stress? She always sleeps in a seperate room, with a seperate bed, and the pups are not allowed past the kitchen. She has the run of the entire house, and if they won't leave her alone and she still wants to be in the kitchen we eventually put them in a pen, and then take them out when she goes off.

OldNotWIse

Rick14613 wrote: »

My dog was not neutered or microchipped. She had her vaccine but at the time wasn't as coverered as she could have been. You know the ways they used to have 3 and then they put 2 in one vaccine etc in later years. I went to the vet and got her a check up and her other vaccine of some sort, and kennel cough one also. She is my treasure - money doesn't buy better blood in my opinion as pedigree dogs can suffer from extended or closer relatives interbreeding.
I have her on an extendable lead which doesn't extend very far but far enough, and if I see any humans or animals coming closer I prefer to shorten the lead. She never growls or barks at people in public places, but she often does and often doesn't give a reaction when meeting other dogs. She is well used to socialising with other people and animals. She is getting on now, so she is not going to suddenly change her persona. She has always been disciplined and trained to do/ not to do things both in and outside etc.

They get one shot at 6-8 weeks (depending on vet), one two weeks later. After that the jury is still out on annual boosters. Some believe, some dont.Differing schools of thought re kennel vacc also. Only protects against certain strains, and a fairly mediocre success rate.

After that, I find the rest of your post a jumble of contradictions tbh.

Rick14613

The new puppy may at times annoy her, but it would behave better after about 4 to 6 weeks, and then they will probably not be able to live without each other

borderlinemeath

Rick14613 wrote: »

I do have time for a new dog. I do not want to undertake any baggage because it would mean having to provide more reassurance and wonder what the dog would be up to next etc.

Seriously, I don't think you realise that bringing up a puppy is very, very hard work! Far harder than training a rescue dog. There's fantastic family pets that end up in rescues through no fault of their own and the dogs that do need that bit of extra help and rehabilitation usually get it in foster homes before they're placed in forever homes and the forever home are told about any problems that may linger, ie a fear of children, or resource guarding food etc.

And please, rescue dogs don't have any more 'baggage' than a badly bred pup who was born in a shed and had no human or household interaction and is set up for life with a fear of everything it didn't encounter due to a bad breeder. And that is exactly what you get if you pay €50 for a pup.

I know that I managed to do all that with my current rescue dog, and I know that having a puppy is the easier route. I would take a rescue dog again but not now. I think that having company will be great for my dog, and a new puppy in each other. I do not expect my dog to train the new one, and I can afford to train it and give it more company for the first few months. I do not think that all rescue dogs have baggage, but then how would I know until I've had them a while.

Because any decent rescue would tell you about your new dogs personality. They don't just pick them up off the streets and ship them out, they're assessed with experienced fosters who inform the rescue of any behavioural issues the dog may have.

I do think that she would enjoy a new puppy as she is extremely agile, fast, jumpy etc, she loves to play and runs like a hare or a horse sometimes including the bounding jumps. She is the first one up on sunny mornings, and she often eats at midnite or 2am or for that again she could eat at 8pm. She is very very sad if she ever gets left alone in the house, but she never does anything other than nearly knock you off your feet if you are the first home. She gets lots of attention, and gives plenty.

She might well enjoy a new puppy, but she may not enjoy a badly bred, possibly resource guarding (food, people) pup who takes up all of your time and attention because you refused to go to a good breeder and get a well socialised and well adjusted puppy.

The new puppy may at times annoy her, but it would behave better after about 4 to 6 weeks, and then they will probably not be able to live without each other

Another assumption based on what experience? It takes a lot of time for an older dog to adjust to living with a new family member. Your dog may never take to the new puppy, they might not get on at all. If you don't go to a decent breeder that will take the pup back in the event that the two dogs don't get on, then your stuck with a puppy and a dog that don't get on.

People on this forum are trying to help guide you go the right way about getting a new dog, and yet you have these notions that you'll just pick up a pup for a few quid and everything will be just fine, no health problems, no behavioural problems, no adjustment issues, nothing. You need to take the blinkers off and listen to the advice given out. Or read about getting a new puppy here:

http://www.dogstardaily.com/

Rick14613

Breeders I've contacted seem to only have and know about pedigree JRT, which is ironic as they are frowned upon in the pedigree world. I know exactly what training a pup involves. I have trained them before, and trained my 1 year old which is supposed to be harder as they have lost interest somewhat in learning.

muddypaws

Rick14613 wrote: »

Breeders I've contacted seem to only have and know about pedigree JRT, which is ironic as they are frowned upon in the pedigree world. I know exactly what training a pup involves. I have trained them before, and trained my 1 year old which is supposed to be harder as they have lost interest somewhat in learning.

Now I think that you are a troll, I've been wondering since the beginning. What on earth do you mean that they are frowned upon in the pedigree world?

Of course breeders only know about pedigree JRTs, you want a JRT, that is a breed, so if people are breeding JRTs, they are pedigree dogs. Anything that isn't is a crossbreed, so is not a JRT, it would be a JRT cross.

andreac

What on earth do you mean they are frowned upon in the pedigree world?? Makes no sense whatsoever. JRT's are shown and exhibited as their own breed at dog shows and do very well, so you are talking complete nonsense when you say they are frowned upon.

Yes Troll comes to mind...

Tranceypoo

Rick14613 wrote: »

Breeders I've contacted seem to only have and know about pedigree JRT, which is ironic as they are frowned upon in the pedigree world. I know exactly what training a pup involves. I have trained them before, and trained my 1 year old which is supposed to be harder as they have lost interest somewhat in learning.

Pedigree JRT's are frowned upon in the pedigree world? Where are you getting your information from?!

OldNotWIse

Rick14613 wrote: »

Breeders I've contacted seem to only have and know about pedigree JRT, which is ironic as they are frowned upon in the pedigree world. I know exactly what training a pup involves. I have trained them before, and trained my 1 year old which is supposed to be harder as they have lost interest somewhat in learning.

(scratches head)


I wont be able to sleep tonight thinking about all the money-hungry, mutant-breeding beauty pageant saddos looking down on the poor Jack Russells

Afaik, enthusiasts are more than happy that JRT's have been left "outside" the ring, thereby preventing the intense interbreeding that goes on to emphasise certain breed specific points, making them "beautiful" but completely functionless as dogs. Heard of syringomyelia? Epilepsy? At least the kn*cker dogs are still genetically healthy!

I actually attended a show a while back (as a tag along) with my own rescue mutt and was pounced on by some weirdo woman saying how beautiful she was and did she have any babies for sale. I'm backing away from here mumbling about her being spayed etc and then she proclaims, "oh not to worry, she's not actually perfect anyway, sure she doesn't have Queen Anne legs!". Fuuck sake I resisted the urge to tell her that such "bow" legs are actually a genetic skeletal deformity called chondrodysplasia (faulty cartilage basically) and here is this silly old bat with her ham sandwiches and beer practically celebrating the condition. Sigh....

anniehoo

andreac wrote: »

What on earth do you mean they are frowned upon in the pedigree world??

My undestanding of this is as JRTs were not a recognised pedigree by the IKC up until a few years ago I believe, so may not have the same "status" if you like as other more well established pedigrees. Anyway, like rest of us I am beyond confused with the OPs posts so am just guessing and open to correction (by PM as thread is closed).

OP, I don't feel we can offer you anymore advice as your posts are quite difficult to decipher and make sense of. I am closing this thread for that reason and hope you find what you are looking for.