Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

noodler

rarnes1 wrote: »

Suarez is officially still a pool player.


Nice

More important than all our new signings combined.

Top 4 come on!

klose

@neiljonesecho: I'm told #LFC signed on a young centre back, Rafa Paez (19), who has been on trial at the club this summer. Will go into U21s.

Remember watching him play, tall and built like a ****brick house, from madrid

Ardent

Demosthenese wrote: »

Will be interesting how Brendan uses the new recruits!

Anyone think Cissohko will be be used mostly in an advanced position on the left?

G.K.

I wouldn't have called it a very good window for you guys but after today, not a bad one either.

A top class attacking player, a decent GK and a physical CM (As much as that was never happening imo) would have been what was needed on top of all else for a very good window in my book.

billy2012

Everton did very well!!!

Dcully

rarnes1 wrote: »

Not sure how Fellani is a panic buy. Quality player.

Hes a notch abive average at best imho.

Knex*

Sky praising the balls of Everton for getting 27m for Fellaini.

In my eyes, 13m on McCarthy is a lot worse than United paying 27m for Fellaini.

~Rebel~

rarnes1 wrote: »

Suarez is officially still a pool player.


Nice

smileyj1987

My god this thread feels like this right now long may it continue .

Sideshow Mark

Grand business this window in the end. Very pleased we'll have Suarez for a few more months at least. Borini to Sunderlnd could turn out good for us. Sakho, Mignolet & Toure all look to have been good business, plenty of potential in the other signings, and Moses is the icing in the cake.

Midlife Crashes

Can anyone post some stats on Ilori, particularly his tackling. Watching his Youtube videos and I don't think I've seen him make a tackle. He seems to be in the Paolo Maldini type mold..

Super-Rush

Fellaini is a good player but Moyes played him up front at Everton. So is it a front three of Fellaini in the middle with Rooney and RVP on each side? Kagawa in the hole?

rob316

Fairly happy.

New attacking options (albeit unproven), defence siginificantly improved, upgraded goalkeeper and we still have the best player in the league to return.

We will be back in January and make a few more tweaks undoubtedly.

Oh and top of the league!

K-9

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Chelsea weren't to loan a player like Lukaku out just so he can spend most of his time on our bench. It would be a waste of his development.

Pulis was on 5Live about players prepared to sit on a bench rather than get first team football, Ba exemplifies that. He wouldn't go to a club outside the CL, so Lukaku had to go. Brilliant for Everton, I'd be raging at Ba sitting on the bench collecting a Chelsea cheque if I was a Chelsea fan.

So Everton aren't a rival, Lakaku will bang in the goals again this season, Chelsea fans will be looking at Ba and wondering what might have been.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd trade:

Moses
Sakho
Ilori
Alberto
Aspas

For Ozil.

**** it, I'd have been happy to keep Reina and have Carra delay his retirement for a year to get Ozil. Ozil is in the Suarez shelf.

You'd have taken an Ozil or Wilian signing over Sakho, Ilori and Moses? I suppose hipster type signings go down with the demanding, Sky Sports Breaking News type fan.

An Ozil type signing next year when Suarez goes, yep, no doubt, not now when everybody was screaming about CB's and DM's and how poor Reina was, no. We've a limited budget, we can't make huge profits on what we've got to sell, you'd be up in arms if Suarez was sold, we can't afford luxury signings.

It isn't about finances, I don't care if we do splash £30-40 Million on a marquee signing, I do care if that means we spent zilch on other areas of the pitch that need addressing now.

mike65

Jones

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Jones
Reina (loan)

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Mignolet

Johnson

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Johnson
Kelly

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Kelly
Enrique

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Enrique
Robinson(Loan)

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Cissokho
Agger

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Agger
Carragher

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Toure
Skrtel

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Skrtel

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Sakho
Coates

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Ilori (in effect)

Lucas

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Lucas
Gerrard

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Gerrard
Hendo

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Hendo
Shelvey

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Alberto
Allen

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Allen
Şahin

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Ibe
Sterling

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Sterling
Assaidi

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Moses
Downing

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Aspas
Suso (loan)

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Coutinho

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Sturridge
Suarez

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Suarez

Courtesy Flush

Sideshow Mark

From BR on the LFC site.

we've done great business over the course of the summer - and we'll run with that until January and see where we're at then. I'm sure we'll look to strengthen again and finish off the second part of the season like we did last season.

viper006

Well we were very weak in defence last season at times and BR has certainly addressed this. Toure, Llori, sadko, Sissoko and new goalie is seriously a big shakeup. Hopefully the guys can settle in quickly.

Its a pity we couldnt get that player into the team who would add 20 goals BR said all season he wanted in. I dont think it was lack of trying but just shows how vital getting back in CL will be. Hopefully moses will be a very shrewd signing

Vicxas

Wow. Utd thread now attacking Liverpools business.

Poor lads

LuckyLloyd

K-9 wrote: »

You'd have taken an Ozil or Wilian signing over Sakho, Ilori and Moses? I suppose hipster type signings go down with the demanding, Sky Sports Breaking News type fan.

An Ozil type signing next year when Suarez goes, yep, no doubt, not now when everybody was screaming about CB's and DM's and how poor Reina was, no. We've a limited budget, we can't make huge profits on what we've got to sell, you'd be up in arms if Suarez was sold, we can't afford luxury signings.

It isn't about finances, I don't care if we do splash £30-40 Million on a marquee signing, I do care if that means we spent zilch on other areas of the pitch that need addressing now.

I'd have taken OZIL. Ozil, you know that ****ing world class German wizard who would become automatically our second best player and one of our best signings of the past 20 years (up there all time tbh).

You get a chance at a player like that you take it. So, yes, if it was a choice of standing pat and bringing him on in or signing a bunch of squad filler and a couple of upgrades I'd have gone the former route.

bad2dabone

This thread is rather pleasant to browse through when you lot are all in good form.

mike65

Sideshow Mark wrote: »

From BR on the LFC site.

Quote: we've done great business over the course of the summer - and we'll run with that until January and see where we're at then. I'm sure we'll look to strengthen again and finish off the second part of the season like we did last season.

As I said plenty of times January is a good window, dunno why people moan about it. You can bet your house there will be a few underperforming CL/EL sides who will have some players available as they exit at the group stages.

Turtyturd

G.K. wrote: »

I wouldn't have called it a very good window for you guys but after today, not a bad one either.

A top class attacking player, a decent GK and a physical CM (As much as that was never happening imo) would have been what was needed on top of all else for a very good window in my book.

Yep defensively it was a good window not too sure attack wise...especially given the players we were initially linked with. I like the look of Aspas but Moses is fairly meh for me...the idea of signing him last year was dismissed by plenty on here and I haven't seen anything to change that opinion.

Sideshow Mark

Rumour is Utd didn't get Contrao's paperwork in on time. Will be confirmed one way or the other around midnight.

Knex*

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd have taken OZIL. Ozil, you know that ****ing world class German wizard who would become automatically our second best player and one of our best signings of the past 20 years (up there all time tbh).

You get a chance at a player like that you take it. So, yes, if it was a choice of standing pat and bringing him on in or signing a bunch of squad filler and a couple of upgrades I'd have gone the former route.

Would you trade our entire transfer business with Arsenal?

Don't think I would. Mute point anyway as he'd never join a non CL team.

Kerrigooney

Happy enough with the window. Wasn't looking great a week ago but came together nicely at the end.

Now we just need to get this bloody international break out of the way and continue our relentless march to the title.

Royal Legend

I think you underestimate what is going on at utd. firstly the standards in how they conduct their business has dropped, starting with Moyes comments on Everton letting Baines and Fellani go and the pathetic chasing of Cesc
Secondly, their number 10 does not want to be there, not a happy camper and lastly, there must be a couple of the backline (Evra) who it is obvious Moyes does not want, hence the bids for Baines and Contreau.
If the top 5/6 beat the lesser teams, then the key games will be the clashes between the top 5/6 and I can see united in serious problems, although there is the chance that Moyes can change United's game plan to route one with Fellani, we did see a bit of that last Sunday

Turtyturd

Vicxas wrote: »

Wow. Utd thread now attacking Liverpools business.

Poor lads

They're not obsessed.

~Rebel~

If we keep up decent form until January, I wonder what sort of talent we could attract? If we're still in the serious running for top 4, a more top bracket midfielder/attacker may be available - especially after the first cull of teams from the Champions League.

Fair play to Arsenal getting Ozil, to be honest I think i'd have done a straight swap with Real for Suarez - though I very much doubt Ozil himself would have agreed.

darced

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K-9

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd have taken OZIL. Ozil, you know that ****ing world class German wizard who would become automatically our second best player and one of our best signings of the past 20 years (up there all time tbh).

You get a chance at a player like that you take it. So, yes, if it was a choice of standing pat and bringing him on in or signing a bunch of squad filler and a couple of upgrades I'd have gone the former route.

Yeah, I know Ozil, think we all do, thanks for the condescending, stating the bloody obvious reply.

I'd also a fair clue of how much the club would spend after £20 Million in January, roughly the same again. It was never going to be £50/60 Million unless we sold half the fcuking team.


To put it mildly, what fcuking world are you living in? There, I cursed twice on Boards!

noodler

Dcully wrote: »

Hes a notch abive average at best imho.

I dunno how anyone could say that about Fella.

He is about as an effective a premier league player as you can get imo.

He has got nearly everything.

LuckyLloyd

Knex. wrote: »

Would you trade our entire transfer business with Arsenal?

Don't think I would. Mute point anyway as he'd never join a non CL team.

Yep, but still to answer I would. We'd have cover for Lucas and two genuinely world class players in the starting 11. We might have a better shot that way, who knows...

mike65

Less than 70 posts to the new thread.

kingshankly

Christ Everton did well got Barry mc carthy and lukaku lost fellani and made 15 million profit

smileyj1987

Mignolet
Johnson Toure Agger Sahko
Gerrard Lucas
Coutinho
Suarez Sturridge Moses

Henderson,Enrique,Cissohko,Sterling,Aspas,Alberto, Llori,Allen,Wisdom,Ibe,Kelly,Skrtel,Jones.

I can honestly say that is looking fairly good to me and we also have some decent options too .

Ardent

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yep, but still to answer I would. We'd have cover for Lucas and two genuinely world class players in the starting 11. We might have a better shot that way, who knows...

Ozil is never coming to a non CL club so stop banging on about him ffs.

taidghbaby

~Rebel~ wrote: »

If we keep up decent form until January, I wonder what sort of talent we could attract? If we're still in the serious running for top 4, a more top bracket midfielder/attacker may be available - especially after the first cull of teams from the Champions League.

Fair play to Arsenal getting Ozil, to be honest I think i'd have done a straight swap with Real for Suarez - though I very much doubt Ozil himself would have agreed.

Mata or Tom Ince I'd say!

Vicxas

~Rebel~ wrote: »

If we keep up decent form until January, I wonder what sort of talent we could attract? If we're still in the serious running for top 4, a more top bracket midfielder/attacker may be available - especially after the first cull of teams from the Champions League.

Fair play to Arsenal getting Ozil, to be honest I think i'd have done a straight swap with Real for Suarez - though I very much doubt Ozil himself would have agreed.

I think that if we stay on course and are in the top 4 come Jan, we'll have a very strong hand in the transfer market

K-9

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Fair play to Arsenal getting Ozil, to be honest I think i'd have done a straight swap with Real for Suarez - though I very much doubt Ozil himself would have agreed.

A poster with a grip of reality! About the only way we could have got a player like Ozil, Mata also was selling Suarez, nobody else would fetch over £15 Million.

We can all dream about spending £60 Million, what's the fecking point, it isn't going to happen.

NabyLadistheman

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Yep, but still to answer I would. We'd have cover for Lucas and two genuinely world class players in the starting 11. We might have a better shot that way, who knows...

Ozil will not stop goals going in at the other end. Carra has retired and Reina would have had to be replaced next summer for definite. Your logic baffles me.

Also big news Suarez is still here despite your factual statements to the contrary towards the end of last season

noodler

Does Moses slot in now for Aspas?

LuckyLloyd

Ardent wrote: »

Ozil is never coming to a non CL club so stop banging on about him ffs.

Let's not pretend we did better than Arsenal when it's all weighed up is the point. World Class players that can define your starting 11 >>> squad additions.

Jason Todd

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I'd have taken OZIL. Ozil, you know that ****ing world class German wizard who would become automatically our second best player and one of our best signings of the past 20 years (up there all time tbh).

You get a chance at a player like that you take it. So, yes, if it was a choice of standing pat and bringing him on in or signing a bunch of squad filler and a couple of upgrades I'd have gone the former route.

Do you have to be so condescending? Like there was ever a chance he'd come to us. And people were laughing at the link to Mata... we hadn't a hope at Ozil. I know you said 'if you had a choice', but we were never going to have that, and it shouldn't be used to belittle the 'squad filler' and 'couple of upgrades' we did get. This has been both a very good start to the season and a good transfer window all things considered.

Paulegend

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Mignolet
Johnson Toure Agger Sahko
Gerrard Lucas
Coutinho
Suarez Sturridge Moses

Henderson,Enrique,Cissohko,Sterling,Aspas,Alberto, Llori,Allen,Wisdom,Ibe,Kelly,Skrtel,Jones.

I can honestly say that is looking fairly good to me and we also have some decent options too .

i think itll be more like this

no idea why agger has been made vice captain only to be replaced but sakho for 15 million wont be on the bench and he plays center back

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Mignolet
Johnson

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Toure----Saakho

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Cisokho

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Gerrard---Lucas

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Coutinho

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Suarez

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Sturridge----Moses

Jason Todd

kingshankly wrote: »

Christ Everton did well got Barry mc carthy and lukaku lost fellani and made 15 million profit

Kept Baines too. Has to be said they did well, even though they left it late.

mike65

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Let's not pretend we did better than Arsenal when it's all weighed up is the point. World Class players that can define your starting 11 >>> squad additions.

Some arseing about, you know perfectly well Ozil would never be interested in signing for Liverpool any more than say Schalke O4 or Lille.

Or did you have cunning plan to lure him?

Paulegend

noodler wrote: »

Does Moses slot in now for Aspas?

i think it will be rotating. aspas for the tighter defences where moses against teams that play a high line

Knex*

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Let's not pretend we did better than Arsenal when it's all weighed up is the point. World Class players that can define your starting 11 >>> squad additions.

Arsenal had the luxury of having a better starting point than us though.

Better starting 11, and certainly a better squad.

I think, even though they added that quality in Ozil, by keeping Suarez and adding what we did, we've made ground on them a little.

Won't lie, lot of hard work and luck needed to still be in running come January, but hopefully we can add some more then too.

Ardent

noodler wrote: »

Does Moses slot in now for Aspas?

I hope so. Aspas needs more time to adapt to English football.