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Abandoned, injured dog
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16-08-2013 4:37pm#1Hi all, at a bit of a loss here so just wondering on your opinions...long story but here we go!!
Four days ago I was out in the back field when I noticed someone by the fence that separates us from a busy road. I presumed it was one of my neighbours (who often pull in at the side of our field and throw bags of food over the fence, as its a short cut later for them when feeding their cattle on one particular field) I started to walk towards them to say hello, not really paying much attention as I was pushing my daughter in the buggy and she was giving out like hell ( I was trying to get her to nap, thought a walk in fresh air might help!)
Anyway the first odd thing I noticed was two of my dogs standing still and alert staring over at the fence where the person was, they normal bound across tails wagging to my neighbour because my neighbour always has treats in his pocket for them! I was close enough now to realise that it wasn't my neighbour, it was a man in his 30's I'd say, leaning over the fence looking into the grass my side, I shouted a hello across and he jumped obviously not noticing me before now. I got closer and realised that he had blood on his hands, I didn't go any further, just called across to ask was he alright, he said yeah he was grand. I saw something in the grass twitching then and he saw me looking and said "It's me dog, he jumped from the car and got knocked by another car and bolted into your field". I went closer then and sure enough there was a dog covered in blood withering in pain on the grass. I exclaimed that he needed to get him to the vet asap, he nodded and said he had gotten out of his car further down the road to follow the dog on foot and would run back and get the car. I said I'd open the gate for him so he could drive in close to the poor dog...off he went and 15 minutes later, myself, my baby and my own 3 dogs were left sitting there with this dog, no sign of the owner coming back.
In the end, with some difficulty, we all made it back up the field to my house, injured dog in tow. I brought him straight to my vet and told him he had been hit by a car, the vet took him in straight away for treatment. At this stage I presumed the man had hit the dog and it wasn't his dog at all and just didn't want to be held responsible so did a runner...but then the vet informed me the dog and actually been shot!!! There was no evidence of bruising etc you'd expect with a RTA just a single bullet wound to the abdomen area.
Thinking back, I had noticed the mans hand covered in blood, that is what stopped me in my tracks from heading straight over to him, our fencing is pretty high so theres now way the man could have leaned over and touched the dog to get the blood on his hands, I can only presume he actually threw the dog over my fence to dump him there, because as far as I'm aware there is actually no way the dog could have got through the fencing, its completely secure, OH spent hours checking it recently as we have a new pup.
The vet had to do emergency surgery on him and didn't really expect him to pull through, but he has and is doing really well, so much so the vet said he could be discharged this evening. My question is what do I do with the dog??
I've already rung around pounds, the gardai etc with a description of the dog incase it was stolen from someone and people are looking for it, but nothing. I'm afraid to advertise it incase that man was it's owner, realises its still alive and comes back to finish it off. I don't want to send it to the pound because that's no place for him, the vet says he's doing well, but this is still a seriously ill dog after major surgery, I don't think he would survive in the pound...but a rescue can't take them until they've done their 5 days in the pound sure they can't or am I wrong in saying this?? I know I by law can't rehome him until I've had him a year and a day or something.
Any idea's welcome. At the moment I have one very unhappy hubby that one of the seats in our car is stained with blood from the trip to the vet, we've forked out €400 in vet bills for a dog that's not ours and now it looks like this sick dog will be coming here for the weekend for us to take care of him, when we already have 3 of our own including a pup and a baby...
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it depends on the pound and the warden, as long as the dog's details are registered in their book, then it should be okay. If the warden had found the dog like that, i.e., if you'd reported it, instead of helping the dog, then I doubt that they would have put the dog in the pound, they would have taken it to a vet either for treatment or to be pts. So, technically it wouldn't be in the pound, although it would be under the warden's care
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Well I'm back from the vets. The vet was great and rang the warden for me, he however was not so great...basically he said the dog had to serve his 5 days in the pound, not matter how much pleading the vet did. After the 5 days he said he could go to a rescue if there was one to take him, but that they normally don't take injured dogs and that the pound would not be paying for anymore veterinary treatment, so basically if anything goes wrong the dog would just be PTS. I was also told, which I had never heard of before that if he survived his 5 days in the pound then I was not allowed to take him because its their policy not to rehome within a certain mile radius of where the dog was found Anyone heard this before??
Anyway the long and short of it is that doggy is now nestled in a bed in out sitting room, OH greeted us at the door with silence and followed us in with mutterings of divorce lol, but he's all show and is currently lying on the ground beside the doggies bed giving him rubs! What to with him next...!!0 -
fiounnalbe wrote: »Well I'm back from the vets. The vet was great and rang the warden for me, he however was not so great...basically he said the dog had to serve his 5 days in the pound, not matter how much pleading the vet did. After the 5 days he said he could go to a rescue if there was one to take him, but that they normally don't take injured dogs and that the pound would not be paying for anymore veterinary treatment, so basically if anything goes wrong the dog would just be PTS. I was also told, which I had never heard of before that if he survived his 5 days in the pound then I was not allowed to take him because its their policy not to rehome within a certain mile radius of where the dog was found Anyone heard this before??
Anyway the long and short of it is that doggy is now nestled in a bed in out sitting room, OH greeted us at the door with silence and followed us in with mutterings of divorce lol, but he's all show and is currently lying on the ground beside the doggies bed giving him rubs! What to with him next...!!
I am seriously lost for words reading this....That is absolutely disgraceful. I have also never heard of not re-homing a dog within a radius of where he was found.
I dont know what advise to give you OP - hopefully somebody else will have more knowledge on how to deal with this desperate situation. I just cannot understand how a dog warden can be so unreasonable - actually its almost cruel behaviour. Id love to hear this story aired on radio actually. You're brilliant for what you have done so far for this dog !0 -
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Wow I just cannot believe this, I am going to personally assume that the guy you saw was in fact the dogs owner and this was his way of getting "rid of it". And then the dog warden who is insisting that this poor dog who is after sustaining a GSW, been dumped and been through major surgery does his five days in the pound! Giving you just 5 days to find a place in rescue for him as he won't allow you claim him. BTW I have never heard of anything stating that a dog can't be rehomed in the area that they are found. I'm sorry but what kind of a fupping idiot is this man and why is he being so unreasonable?
Well done OP, it's not many that would do what you have done knowing that you would be landed with the vets bills. I would try contacting some of your local rescues to see if they could atleast help out in some way, shape or form, even if they can't take him perhaps they would be willing to help out with the vets bills. Again well done, you're an absolute star doing what you did. 0 -
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100% a Garda matter. That dog owner is guilty of a number of offences. The warden who you interacted with sounds like someone who is in the job too long. I would love to challenge him on many issues face to face and make a fool of him which is not usually too hard if warranted.fiounnalbe wrote: »Hi all, at a bit of a loss here so just wondering on your opinions...long story but here we go!!
Four days ago I was out in the back field when I noticed someone by the fence that separates us from a busy road. I presumed it was one of my neighbours (who often pull in at the side of our field and throw bags of food over the fence, as its a short cut later for them when feeding their cattle on one particular field) I started to walk towards them to say hello, not really paying much attention as I was pushing my daughter in the buggy and she was giving out like hell ( I was trying to get her to nap, thought a walk in fresh air might help!)
Anyway the first odd thing I noticed was two of my dogs standing still and alert staring over at the fence where the person was, they normal bound across tails wagging to my neighbour because my neighbour always has treats in his pocket for them! I was close enough now to realise that it wasn't my neighbour, it was a man in his 30's I'd say, leaning over the fence looking into the grass my side, I shouted a hello across and he jumped obviously not noticing me before now. I got closer and realised that he had blood on his hands, I didn't go any further, just called across to ask was he alright, he said yeah he was grand. I saw something in the grass twitching then and he saw me looking and said "It's me dog, he jumped from the car and got knocked by another car and bolted into your field". I went closer then and sure enough there was a dog covered in blood withering in pain on the grass. I exclaimed that he needed to get him to the vet asap, he nodded and said he had gotten out of his car further down the road to follow the dog on foot and would run back and get the car. I said I'd open the gate for him so he could drive in close to the poor dog...off he went and 15 minutes later, myself, my baby and my own 3 dogs were left sitting there with this dog, no sign of the owner coming back.
In the end, with some difficulty, we all made it back up the field to my house, injured dog in tow. I brought him straight to my vet and told him he had been hit by a car, the vet took him in straight away for treatment. At this stage I presumed the man had hit the dog and it wasn't his dog at all and just didn't want to be held responsible so did a runner...but then the vet informed me the dog and actually been shot!!! There was no evidence of bruising etc you'd expect with a RTA just a single bullet wound to the abdomen area.
Thinking back, I had noticed the mans hand covered in blood, that is what stopped me in my tracks from heading straight over to him, our fencing is pretty high so theres now way the man could have leaned over and touched the dog to get the blood on his hands, I can only presume he actually threw the dog over my fence to dump him there, because as far as I'm aware there is actually no way the dog could have got through the fencing, its completely secure, OH spent hours checking it recently as we have a new pup.
The vet had to do emergency surgery on him and didn't really expect him to pull through, but he has and is doing really well, so much so the vet said he could be discharged this evening. My question is what do I do with the dog??
I've already rung around pounds, the gardai etc with a description of the dog incase it was stolen from someone and people are looking for it, but nothing. I'm afraid to advertise it incase that man was it's owner, realises its still alive and comes back to finish it off. I don't want to send it to the pound because that's no place for him, the vet says he's doing well, but this is still a seriously ill dog after major surgery, I don't think he would survive in the pound...but a rescue can't take them until they've done their 5 days in the pound sure they can't or am I wrong in saying this?? I know I by law can't rehome him until I've had him a year and a day or something.
Any idea's welcome. At the moment I have one very unhappy hubby that one of the seats in our car is stained with blood from the trip to the vet, we've forked out €400 in vet bills for a dog that's not ours and now it looks like this sick dog will be coming here for the weekend for us to take care of him, when we already have 3 of our own including a pup and a baby...
It's 100% a Garda matter because 1. The nature of the incident using a firearm where it was used and 2 the cruel result of his actions. Both these incidents are not matters for any local authority bar bearing witness to events in a case which can only be taken by a Garda. Under legislation they are the only ones charged with enforcing animal welfare.
The re homing rule about distance is alive and well in some pounds. It's implementation is ad hoc and varies everywhere if used. When we rehome dogs from estates where we are only allowed work in numbers we will not rehome a dog to that estate if it comes from there bar we are satisfied its back to the proper owner. Some of these residents if they see a dog they think was theirs would have no hesitation it taking it back physically off any subsequent dog walker/new owner. Not seeing their dog for five days would mean nothing to some of them the fact that it may not be theirs anymore.
I'll tell a recent sceal as its a small bit relevant. I got a call. A post van was after hitting a young out loose husky. The dog was on the footpath with at least one leg broken. I had called along also an inexperienced dog warden as it was an ideal hands on learning experience. To cut a long story short a dog warden of far more senior years experience was briefed on the incident later that week. All he could say was that the warden would not be covered as he had under my instruction taken the dog to the vet. The warden should of only taken the dog to the pound.
Thems the rules and that's the job he kept saying. Knowing his backround I knew that he had bearly if ever gone to court. I explained in a few words what I had learned in the 40ish times I'd gone to court for the job, that his view was from the wisdom of an armchair and would he like to start a collection for all the wardens who are in the 'Joy'? a total of zero I suggested for doing something easy and humane. He had to go silent as those that never walk the walk have to when confronted with their own shortcomings.0 -
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Thanks guys for all yer comments, I'd like to believe I'm just doing what any one would do in this situationWas the dog chipped? The warden should be more concerned about bringing that scumbag to the courts.
No unfortunately not, scanned his entire body twice just to be sure100% a Garda matter. That dog owner is guilty of a number of offences.
The gardai have been informed, one of the first things I did after bring the dog to the vet, I gave them a full description of the man and they said they'd keep an eye out, but I didn't get to see what car he was driving or even better a reg plate, so I'm not sure if the will get very far looking for him. Haven't heard anything from them yet anyway.
OH who was dead set against this dog staying one hour in our house never mind the weekend, spent most of the night sleeping on the floor beside it in the sitting room, because everytime he left it the dog would whimper pitifully and start getting stressed and getting out of bed, we were afraid it would hurt itself if he started walking around, he's not the steadiest on his feet yet. Cooking him a tiny portion of chicken and rice for now, vet said small portions often, underneath this guys dense fur he's actually very skinny
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Whilst I would definitely assume that the person, and I use that word loosely, that shot and dumped him is the owner, there is unfortunately the chance that he's not, and someone is searching for him and worried about him. You really have your hands full I know, with your family and now this extra guest, but could you take a look through the lost and found pages, Lors Lost Dogs on Facebook is pretty good, and see if there are any missing dogs fitting this one's description? If you can't, if you pm me, I'll give you my email address, if you send me a photo, I can have a look through all the sites. No way should this poor dog have to go to the pound.
Well done again, and to your vet, they get slated quite often on here, great to hear a positive tale of a good vet.
We've been trawling through all these pages everynight, since the incident, no sign of him yet anywhere, we'll continue the search though. Heard of a few dogs of late rehomed and then owners have popped up, don't want this to happen 0 -
fiounnalbe wrote: »Thanks guys for all yer comments, I'd like to believe I'm just doing what any one would do in this situation
No unfortunately not, scanned his entire body twice just to be sure
The gardai have been informed, one of the first things I did after bring the dog to the vet, I gave them a full description of the man and they said they'd keep an eye out, but I didn't get to see what car he was driving or even better a reg plate, so I'm not sure if the will get very far looking for him. Haven't heard anything from them yet anyway.
OH who was dead set against this dog staying one hour in our house never mind the weekend, spent most of the night sleeping on the floor beside it in the sitting room, because everytime he left it the dog would whimper pitifully and start getting stressed and getting out of bed, we were afraid it would hurt itself if he started walking around, he's not the steadiest on his feet yet. Cooking him a tiny portion of chicken and rice for now, vet said small portions often, underneath this guys dense fur he's actually very skinny
Sounds like he has already found his new home ;-)
Fair play to you for doing what you are doing for the poor fella so many people would have walked away.0 -
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That is a shocking story. What a bastard that man was to dump the dog (presumably to die a slow painful death). Strange response from the warden too, who surely should see that you are some of the kindest people around. Maybe a call to the ASPCA or the local council would prompt some sort of exception to the wardens rules. Hope you keep him! He was lucky to find you 0
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Just thought I'd give a quick update!
No sign of any owner for this guy and never heard back from warden or gardai.
Vet has given him a clean bill of health today, once the fur grows back he will look great He's understandably a bit nervy still, but gets on brilliantly with all my dogs and he is like my OH's shadow. Everyday he gets better and better.
We had planned on rehoming him when he had fully recovered since we already have a rather full house, but alas whats one more!!!
So meet the newest member of our troop.. Arwr (means Hero in Welsh, where hubbies from!)
Thanks to everyone for all their help, kind words and pm's about this guy, means alot
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Oh my! What a handsome, handsome fella! He looks so dignified
Now, if you'll pardon my ignorance, how do you pronounce this?
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Now, if you'll pardon my ignorance, how do you pronounce this?Tranceypoo wrote: »Oh OP, love you for this and your hubby too. How do you pronounce the name (love the name Hero anyways and it's very fitting)
It sounds like "are were", think thats the best way to describe it, took me a good while to get the pronunciation right...first and last dog OH will be naming I think 0 -
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