Waterford GAA Discussion Thread 2013- Mod Warning Post #1

sid wallace

alllcounty wrote: »

Sounds like our resident troll has come back as a reincaration of yet another username. How many is it at this stage Babs. We've had ManFromCheese, Sam Sweark, Sid Wallace, any others you can remind me of. Every time your poision is exposed you seem to runaway and come back with a different username but with the same badness.

I'm not a troll. It's a very poor character trait to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

As it happens I was at Derek McGraths presentation to the Supporters club the other night in the Red Cow and everything I heard left me in no doubt that the panel made the correct decision.

Mountainlad

Anyone want to shed some light on what was discussed?

alllcounty

sid wallace wrote: »

I'm not a troll. It's a very poor character trait to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

As it happens I was at Derek McGraths presentation to the Supporters club the other night in the Red Cow and everything I heard left me in no doubt that the panel made the correct decision.

Your not doing your idol any favours with all these usernames and constant attacks on the previous management team. The league will be starting in 4 weeks time and that will be a chance for your idol to at least match the prior management team who successfully kept us in the top 4 during their 2 years. You can keep putting the pressure on him if you want but results will determine if he is good or not.

robopaddy

sid wallace wrote: »

I'm not a troll. It's a very poor character trait to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is a troll.

As it happens I was at Derek McGraths presentation to the Supporters club the other night in the Red Cow and everything I heard left me in no doubt that the panel made the correct decision.

Look up definition of troll on the internet. We know who you are and all your previous usernames and we know your personal opinions on certain people. We also know your previous tactic of logging on as 2 different users for the purpose of agreeing with and backing up your own comments and trying to gang up on other posters.. Its quite depressing really and I have a lot of sympathy for you as there are obviously some underlying issues that make people behave this way.

PS you were no more at the red cow the other night than Nelson Mandela was

robopaddy

Deise_2012 wrote: »

What's the attack on Michael Ryan for? Everyone else is after moving on and you set up a boards account just to have a pop at him

To get a reaction from people. Bizzarely this is how some people get their kicks in life so best not to take the bait

robopaddy

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Is Ronan Lynch still on the age for limerick? he was very good, reminded me of Brian O' Halloran in the 2009 minor team

Yep and cian lynch a lot of their big names are there again they will be serious.

thinkstoomuch1

robopaddy wrote: »

Yep and cian lynch a lot of their big names are there again they will be serious.

Limerick will be a serious team,i have seen them train 1st hand and saw them dismantle Mary I in a challenge,yes just a challenge but there touch and pace is sublime,creegan,a selector very much a main man ,and jerry wallis of cork 2006 etc,antrim ,and limerick is with them.


They have around ten of last year ,have morrisey,la touche cosgrave ,barry nash. cousin of anthony ,cian lynch,ronan lynch ,are a serious team.


Tipp have liam cahill involved and I saw them in u17 tournament ,and have good talent,limerick probably win at home ,but being overwhelming favourites do not suit limerick.


We have a serious team ,and a few of midelton dean ryan cup team ,and rochestown in the harty plus we won the u17 all ireland in august ran that limerick team at u16 to a point in a munster final ,and we have a top class manager mark landers,denis ring a proven manager and with blackwater and john o dywer and liam martin our best set up in years.

Likey we play limerck away ,we will rattle them.

Giveitfong

I reckon Derek McGrath has played 16 under 21 players in the four senior games played since the beginning of the month. This doesn’t include a number of players who will be in contention for this year’s under-21 team.



Just for the hell of it I am proposing the following possible championship line-up at this level. This doesn’t include any of this year’s minors, several of whom could also be in contention. Again it serves to show the level of young talent available.



Seanie Barry
Adam O’Sullivan, Tadhg Bourke, Shane Roche
Shane McNulty, Kieran Power, Ray Barry
Tom Devine, Gavin O’Brien
Donie Breathnach, Austin Gleeson, DJ Foran
Jake Dillon, Stephen Bennett, Jamie Barron


Subs: Ryan Donnelly, Seamus Keating, Mikey Kearney, Cormac Heffernan. Michael Harney. Kieran Bennett, Colin Dunford, Cathal Curran, Kevin Daly


Have I overlooked anyone?


Of that panel of 24, I reckon 16 will be under 21 again in 2015, when Patrick and Cormac Curran, Shane Bennett and Colm Roche will be moving up from minor.

robopaddy

Giveitfong wrote: »

I reckon Derek McGrath has played 16 under 21 players in the four senior games played since the beginning of the month. This doesn’t include a number of players who will be in contention for this year’s under-21 team.



Just for the hell of it I am proposing the following possible championship line-up at this level. This doesn’t include any of this year’s minors, several of whom could also be in contention. Again it serves to show the level of young talent available.



Seanie Barry
Adam O’Sullivan, Tadhg Bourke, Shane Roche
Shane McNulty, Kieran Power, Ray Barry
Tom Devine, Gavin O’Brien
Donie Breathnach, Austin Gleeson, DJ Foran
Jake Dillon, Stephen Bennett, Jamie Barron


Subs: Ryan Donnelly, Seamus Keating, Mikey Kearney, Cormac Heffernan. Michael Harney. Kieran Bennett, Colin Dunford, Cathal Curran, Kevin Daly


Have I overlooked anyone?


Of that panel of 24, I reckon 16 will be under 21 again in 2015, when Patrick and Cormac Curran, Shane Bennett and Colm Roche will be moving up from minor.

Wow serious team there considering ryan donnelly has been starting with the co seniors he would be a shoe in.

babs123

robopaddy wrote: »

Wow serious team there considering ryan donnelly has been starting with the co seniors he would be a shoe in.

Serious team but does anybody think that Austin Gleeson should be just kept centre back. We saw the same thing happening with Ken Mcgrath. I know they are serious hurlers in any position but I would like to see him at no6 and build the team around him. Put bennet centre forward or Micheal Harney.

babs123

robopaddy wrote: »

To get a reaction from people. Bizzarely this is how some people get their kicks in life so best not to take the bait

Not attacking the man just not a fan of his that's all

babs123

alllcounty wrote: »

Your not doing your idol any favours with all these usernames and constant attacks on the previous management team. The league will be starting in 4 weeks time and that will be a chance for your idol to at least match the prior management team who successfully kept us in the top 4 during their 2 years. You can keep putting the pressure on him if you want but results will determine if he is good or not.

You should look at the league relegation final of last year and see who was in it. The league should be used as a feeding ground for the championship. Whats the point in staying in the division when you loose a match against Kilkenny which should have been won. Its championship we will judge Derek on and I think that's when he will prove his pedigree. Did Michael Ryan tell anyone when the St Marys are playing a challenge match.!! Would really like to know

sid wallace

robopaddy wrote: »

Look up definition of troll on the internet. We know who you are and all your previous usernames and we know your personal opinions on certain people. We also know your previous tactic of logging on as 2 different users for the purpose of agreeing with and backing up your own comments and trying to gang up on other posters.. Its quite depressing really and I have a lot of sympathy for you as there are obviously some underlying issues that make people behave this way.

PS you were no more at the red cow the other night than Nelson Mandela was

It's all in your head pal.

sid wallace

Giveitfong wrote: »

I reckon Derek McGrath has played 16 under 21 players in the four senior games played since the beginning of the month. This doesn’t include a number of players who will be in contention for this year’s under-21 team.



Just for the hell of it I am proposing the following possible championship line-up at this level. This doesn’t include any of this year’s minors, several of whom could also be in contention. Again it serves to show the level of young talent available.



Seanie Barry
Adam O’Sullivan, Tadhg Bourke, Shane Roche
Shane McNulty, Kieran Power, Ray Barry
Tom Devine, Gavin O’Brien
Donie Breathnach, Austin Gleeson, DJ Foran
Jake Dillon, Stephen Bennett, Jamie Barron


Subs: Ryan Donnelly, Seamus Keating, Mikey Kearney, Cormac Heffernan. Michael Harney. Kieran Bennett, Colin Dunford, Cathal Curran, Kevin Daly


Have I overlooked anyone?


Of that panel of 24, I reckon 16 will be under 21 again in 2015, when Patrick and Cormac Curran, Shane Bennett and Colm Roche will be moving up from minor.

At the meeting the other night McGrath said that there were currently 16 under21s on the training panel and that he expected 12 of those to make the cut when the panel is cut to 32. He also said that he had 19 students and that he thought 18 would make the cut. He emphatically ruled out a return for Mullane.

sid wallace

Mountainlad wrote: »

Anyone want to shed some light on what was discussed?

PowerPoint presentation to a room of about 50 supporters. Possibly the best attended meeting of the Supporters club that I have been at. Followed by a Q&A session. Two hours all in. No journalists present.

While the session was essentially an appeal for funds, he covered every aspect of the panel and the running of it that one could reasonably expect. He was very open and frank about himself and his background and his failure to make it as a senior county hurler. He took full responsibility for the loss to UL and explained how he thought this came about. He was very anxious that the whole county should pull together and that there should be no more East v West ****e. He explained how he thought the team would and what the plan was for the league. He is an impressive chap who clearly spends every hour thinking and reading about the game. Whether that will translate into success, only time will tell.

IanVW

Any challenges this weekend?

Brad1234

sid wallace wrote: »

At the meeting the other night McGrath said that there were currently 16 under21s on the training panel and that he expected 12 of those to make the cut when the panel is cut to 32. He also said that he had 19 students and that he thought 18 would make the cut. He emphatically ruled out a return for Mullane.

TROLL

Deise_2012

Giveitfong wrote: »

I reckon Derek McGrath has played 16 under 21 players in the four senior games played since the beginning of the month. This doesn’t include a number of players who will be in contention for this year’s under-21 team.



Just for the hell of it I am proposing the following possible championship line-up at this level. This doesn’t include any of this year’s minors, several of whom could also be in contention. Again it serves to show the level of young talent available.



Seanie Barry
Adam O’Sullivan, Tadhg Bourke, Shane Roche
Shane McNulty, Kieran Power, Ray Barry
Tom Devine, Gavin O’Brien
Donie Breathnach, Austin Gleeson, DJ Foran
Jake Dillon, Stephen Bennett, Jamie Barron


Subs: Ryan Donnelly, Seamus Keating, Mikey Kearney, Cormac Heffernan. Michael Harney. Kieran Bennett, Colin Dunford, Cathal Curran, Kevin Daly


Have I overlooked anyone?


Of that panel of 24, I reckon 16 will be under 21 again in 2015, when Patrick and Cormac Curran, Shane Bennett and Colm Roche will be moving up from minor.

Just my opinion but I think Aussie should be in the wing back line, I saw him play centre forward v tipp in 2012 and I much prefer him hurling in the half back line. A lot of people underestimate how good Kevin Daly is at full back, serious player. I'd expect him to be in with a shout at full back, Darragh Duggan knows him well. Tadhg Bourke is wasted in the full back position

Seanie Barry
Shane Mcnulty Kevin Daly Shane Roche
Tadhg Bourke Kieran Power Aussie Gleeson
Colin Dunford Ray Barry
Gavin O'Brien Donie Breathnach Dj Foran
Stephen Bennett Jake Dillon Jamie Barron

babs123

Brad1234 wrote: »

TROLL

I think we all know to much as it is. Derek is not answerable to any supporters club and should not have to go through this. We should learn from the successful counties. We had a troll in Ml Ryan so the only way is up. If I was Derek McGrath I wouldn't say one more thing to the general public. Gerald McCarthy s first year was a disappointing but he built success for future years. Its the usual response from Waterford so called supporters. If you are looking for a troll go knock on our last managers door.

sid wallace

Brad1234 wrote: »

TROLL

Are the numbers wrong?

sid wallace

babs123 wrote: »

I think we all know to much as it is. Derek is not answerable to any supporters club and should not have to go through this. We should learn from the successful counties. We had a troll in Ml Ryan so the only way is up. If I was Derek McGrath I wouldn't say one more thing to the general public. Gerald McCarthy s first year was a disappointing but he built success for future years. Its the usual response from Waterford so called supporters. If you are looking for a troll go knock on our last managers door.

He's not answerable at all. He offered to make the presentation. He has previously made the presentation in Dungarvan and New York. He is effectively opening the doors of the camp to the committed supporters which can only be a good thing. He also said he'd encourage every one to come and see the training.

One of the interesting points was that they are training in a number of different rural locations and having their post training meals in local eateries so as to spread the business around the county, which is only a good thing.

seananigans

sid wallace wrote: »

PowerPoint presentation to a room of about 50 supporters. Possibly the best attended meeting of the Supporters club that I have been at. Followed by a Q&A session. Two hours all in. No journalists present.

While the session was essentially an appeal for funds, he covered every aspect of the panel and the running of it that one could reasonably expect. He was very open and frank about himself and his background and his failure to make it as a senior county hurler. He took full responsibility for the loss to UL and explained how he thought this came about. He was very anxious that the whole county should pull together and that there should be no more East v West ****e. He explained how he thought the team would and what the plan was for the league. He is an impressive chap who clearly spends every hour thinking and reading about the game. Whether that will translate into success, only time will tell.

I normally don't agree with this tool, but this is accurate in relation to that meeting,as I was there also.

with the no Journalists present line,he asked for certain small things not to leave the room, so would be reluctant to make much more of a report than that.

Deise_2012

babs123 wrote: »

I think we all know to much as it is. Derek is not answerable to any supporters club and should not have to go through this. We should learn from the successful counties. We had a troll in Ml Ryan so the only way is up. If I was Derek McGrath I wouldn't say one more thing to the general public. Gerald McCarthy s first year was a disappointing but he built success for future years. Its the usual response from Waterford so called supporters. If you are looking for a troll go knock on our last managers door.

Did you get dropped off the panel by Michael Ryan? Just wondering because you won't shut up about him, getting annoying now. You give me any manager in the country and give him a team like Waterford had the last 2 years with such limited resources, see how they get on in the league and championship. You're definately from the city anyways

sid wallace

seananigans wrote: »

I normally don't agree with this tool, but this is accurate in relation to that meeting,as I was there also.

with the no Journalists present line,he asked for certain small things not to leave the room, so would be reluctant to make much more of a report than that.

I would agree with that, which is why I wouldn't go into specifics.

Deise_2012

Steven Daniels on the UL Fitz panel?? Thought he's not back until may or june

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Deise Doodler

IanVW wrote: »

Any challenges this weekend?

Heard they are to play Wexford later this week , and Galway at the weekend

Cake Man

Any idea where they're on? They should be good workouts before the league starts.

sid wallace

Deise_2012 wrote: »

Just my opinion but I think Aussie should be in the wing back line, I saw him play centre forward v tipp in 2012 and I much prefer him hurling in the half back line. A lot of people underestimate how good Kevin Daly is at full back, serious player. I'd expect him to be in with a shout at full back, Darragh Duggan knows him well. Tadhg Bourke is wasted in the full back position

Seanie Barry
Shane Mcnulty Kevin Daly Shane Roche
Tadhg Bourke Kieran Power Aussie Gleeson
Colin Dunford Ray Barry
Gavin O'Brien Donie Breathnach Dj Foran
Stephen Bennett Jake Dillon Jamie Barron

Personally, I don't think Austin Gleeson had the defensive instincts necessary to play on the half back line.