I am so sick of people in this country

meoklmrk91

Where I am currently living I have to load my dog into the car every day and drive him out of our estate when I want to take him for a walk. Why? Because there is literally a pack of dogs roaming around estate that attack us when ever I try to walk him out of there.

So fine I do that, today I had done that and was walking up the street and some man comes out and tells me that his dog is out and to be careful because he would go for mine, I didn't know how to respond so just kept walking, he then called me back and gave me a stick? I looked at him dumbfounded and went to start walking again when his Boxer made a beeline for mine and started attacking him, the guy got in between them and eventually managed to grab him by the collar, but not before my dog was left with a mouth full of blood from the other dog grabbing him by the nose and giving him a nose bleed. Got a friend to drive me down home, the nose bleed has stopped but there are a number of scratches around his nose from where he was bitten. I am lucky I didn't get a bite from getting in between them as well.

So now I have an idiot dog warden who won't do anything about the pack of dogs living in my estate, I have an idiot man who thinks it's okay to leave his dog aggressive dog out roaming on the main street to attack people who are legally walking their under control dogs. A dog who needs to be walked. And I am fit to hit the roof. Why can't people just look after their animals in a proper manner. Why should I have to get in my car every day just so I can walk the dog every day, now I'm going to have to drive even further to walk him, wasting petrol that I don't have.

This guy has a huge yard, could easily close the gate and leave the dog out of his teeny, tiny run in there. But no he just leaves him out to run around and attack other peoples dogs. If I had the money I would be calling in an out of hours vet to check my lad out even though I don't think there is anything wrong with him, out and send him the bill just to teach him a lesson. Ugh I am so pissed off right now.

meoklmrk91

I just cleaned out his wounds, to be fair they are very small other than that I would be calling out the vet regardless of money. I just used some salty water as I don't have anything else and would be nervous about using it anyway because of the area, around his nose and mouth, it would be way too easy for him to ingest some. Is the salty water thing okay? If not what should I use and if it is how often should I do it, 2-3 times a day?

wiz569

Salty water is fine m8,but keep an eye on it just in case

Sorry to hear about your experience,there really are some dumb people out there

wesf

Coming on here and ranting isn't going to get you anywhere. Instead why don't you direct your anger towards the idiots who deserve it.

meoklmrk91

wiz569 wrote: »

Salty water is fine m8,but keep an eye on it just in case

Sorry to hear about your experience,there really are some dumb people out there

Will do, if needs be I'll be off to the vet on Monday and he will be getting the bill, dog seems to be fine he had a little nap and is here playing with his toys. I'm just pissed because it shouldn't have happened in the first place. What happens next time we are out walking and someone walks by with their dog? It's very possible for dogs to develop fear based aggression after something like this.

miller50841

Call local council and write also. Ask for the dog warden and if that doesn't work call the cops as there is a danger to children with aggressive dogs.

meoklmrk91

wesf wrote: »

Coming on here and ranting isn't going to get you anywhere. Instead why don't you direct your anger towards the idiots who deserve it.

I will be going up and having a word tomorrow I'm not doing it today because I don't believe in going around the place being uncivil and I don't think I could be civil at the moment. Would have said something to him after but he grabbed the dog and literally ran in and didn't come back out.

wesf

If some idiot lets his dog roam free and it attacks my dog, being uncivil would be the least of my worries. I'd be telling him what I thought of him and his dog.
Furthermore i'd be going over the head of that warden and reporting him. Your dog could have been seriously hurt. Not following up with that idiot dog owner immediately is letting him think its ok to let it out alone.

bumper234

miller50841 wrote: »

Call local council and write also. Ask for the dog warden and if that doesn't work call the cops as there is a danger to children with aggressive dogs.

this.

everytime you see the dogs you should call the guards. Ask them to log each call and make sure you say in each call that there are loose aggressive dogs roaming the streets and you are afraid they will attack a child. I myself would have no problem telling the guards that the dogs ARE being aggressive towards children if it means they will get off their arses and get some wardens around to do something.

meoklmrk91

wesf wrote: »

If some idiot lets his dog roam free and it attacks my dog, being uncivil would be the least of my worries. I'd be telling him what I thought of him and his dog.
Furthermore i'd be going over the head of that warden and reporting him. Your dog could have been seriously hurt. Not following up with that idiot dog owner immediately is letting him think its ok to let it out alone.

That's fair enough, if that's how you deal with things. I would have done the same if your man hadn't run in and I wasn't busy dealing with my dog who had a mouth full of blood at the time, I was more worried about getting him home and deciding if a vet needed to be called.

MiseryMary

That dog should have been tie up on a leash even the owner knew that dog would attack and did nothing , you should have a court order to get that vicious dog put down. http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/environment/animal_welfare_and_control/control_of_dogs.html

ShaShaBear

It is not the dog's fault it has not been socialised properly and is running loose on the streets attacking other dogs.

And by all means, Jebus flicking Crust, just because the dog is attacking dogs doesn't mean it is going to attack children. The poor thing is probably driven demented with no proper early interaction with dogs and the owner clearly isn't being responsible and exercising it correctly. If he gave you a stick to protect your own dog, I can only imagine what he does to it on his own time.

Some really educationally deprived people that think a dog should get put down because of its owner :mad:

duckysauce

Had the same type of issue today , some woman walking three terriers, only one was on a lead, sees me walking my dog on a lead and grabs her dog as she must know it's a vicious little sod as it starts going mental to get at my dog. Didn't think much of it till later on our paths crossed again , the bloody terrier comes out of no where goes for my dogs neck and misses then goes for her behind. I grab my dog off the ground as she got biten before and had to bring her to the vet and cost me alot of money. The little poxy terrier is trying to still get at my dog , I am roaring at the little sod and tried to hoof it into the middle of next week but missed :mad:, then her two other liitle ****s are having a go , I tell her to get them away from me ---- She starts telling me to calm down and she eventually gets them on leads , I loose the plot with her -- she then starts telling me there is something wrong with me:eek: , the little ****s with teeth still doing there best to a have go. I just looked at her checked to see if my dog had any wounds and walked off . Some people should not have dogs the same as some should not have children.

meoklmrk91

ShaShaBear wrote: »

It is not the dog's fault it has not been socialised properly and is running loose on the streets attacking other dogs.

And by all means, Jebus flicking Crust, just because the dog is attacking dogs doesn't mean it is going to attack children. The poor thing is probably driven demented with no proper early interaction with dogs and the owner clearly isn't being responsible and exercising it correctly. If he gave you a stick to protect your own dog, I can only imagine what he does to it on his own time.

Some really educationally deprived people that think a dog should get put down because of its owner :mad:

I completely concur with you ShaSha, one of my friends actually told me that they saw him hitting the dog for running away from him one day as if that's going to do any good. It isn't the dogs fault, I have nothing against dog, just because he is dog aggressive doesn't mean that he will kill the first child he sees.

I will be ringing the dog warden to make a complaint, he shouldn't be out roaming the streets regardless of whether he is dog aggressive or not. He only has three legs after being ran over by a car and this idiot still lets him out to roam.

Love2u

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

Where I am currently living I have to load my dog into the car every day and drive him out of our estate when I want to take him for a walk. Why? Because there is literally a pack of dogs roaming around estate that attack us when ever I try to walk him out of there.

So fine I do that, today I had done that and was walking up the street and some man comes out and tells me that his dog is out and to be careful because he would go for mine, I didn't know how to respond so just kept walking, he then called me back and gave me a stick? I looked at him dumbfounded and went to start walking again when his Boxer made a beeline for mine and started attacking him, the guy got in between them and eventually managed to grab him by the collar, but not before my dog was left with a mouth full of blood from the other dog grabbing him by the nose and giving him a nose bleed. Got a friend to drive me down home, the nose bleed has stopped but there are a number of scratches around his nose from where he was bitten. I am lucky I didn't get a bite from getting in between them as well.

So now I have an idiot dog warden who won't do anything about the pack of dogs living in my estate, I have an idiot man who thinks it's okay to leave his dog aggressive dog out roaming on the main street to attack people who are legally walking their under control dogs. A dog who needs to be walked. And I am fit to hit the roof. Why can't people just look after their animals in a proper manner. Why should I have to get in my car every day just so I can walk the dog every day, now I'm going to have to drive even further to walk him, wasting petrol that I don't have.

This guy has a huge yard, could easily close the gate and leave the dog out of his teeny, tiny run in there. But no he just leaves him out to run around and attack other peoples dogs. If I had the money I would be calling in an out of hours vet to check my lad out even though I don't think there is anything wrong with him, out and send him the bill just to teach him a lesson. Ugh I am so pissed off right now.

Dogs should not be un leashed in public, if I saw a dog roaming around and saw the owner I'd give him an earful.

Tranceypoo

I have to agree with you about being sick of people in this country and the way they treat their dogs, I was at a dog show today and saw more than one person give their dogs a smack, 1 guy had a boxer who snapped at another dog and he smacked it round the chops, yeh that's really going to help you mate. I saw another little girl holding a CKC puppy on a lead and when it lunged at my dogs in a puppy type way she gave it a little smack on the head, now it was more like a pat but that's not the point, I stopped and said to her very softly 'please don't hit your dog, it's only a baby and you could really hurt it', but I guess she's seen her parents do that otherwise how would she know to do it, to a little pup ffs.

And I won't even start on all the people round here and the way they treat their dogs, I'll be here all evening ranting.

ShaShaBear

Love2u wrote: »

Dogs should not be un leashed in public, if I saw a dog roaming around and saw the owner I'd give him an earful.

Dogs that cannot be controlled should not be allowed roam without a lead. Plenty of responsible owners with impeccably-trained dogs that are getting the flak for people who just don't care.

I'd say that the poor boxer is running terrified from its owner who hits it and is probably getting ganged up on by the same pack of dogs your own dog is suffering with OP. Poor thing has probably developed, like my collie, a nasty dose of fear-based aggression and attacks dogs before they attack him. Best thing to do would be to ring over the warden's head, and get in touch with a local animal welfare group and explain the situation. The boxer is at even more risk than your poor baby since its owner is obviously not there to protect it, and the pack themselves run the risk of suffering at the hands of yet another person that believe improperly trained dogs are a pest

meoklmrk91

ShaShaBear wrote: »

Dogs that cannot be controlled should not be allowed roam without a lead. Plenty of responsible owners with impeccably-trained dogs that are getting the flak for people who just don't care.

I'd say that the poor boxer is running terrified from its owner who hits it and is probably getting ganged up on by the same pack of dogs your own dog is suffering with OP. Poor thing has probably developed, like my collie, a nasty dose of fear-based aggression and attacks dogs before they attack him. Best thing to do would be to ring over the warden's head, and get in touch with a local animal welfare group and explain the situation. The boxer is at even more risk than your poor baby since its owner is obviously not there to protect it, and the pack themselves run the risk of suffering at the hands of yet another person that believe improperly trained dogs are a pest

I doubt the cause is to do with the dogs in my estate as they never roam from the estate strangely enough. I can't say what the cause of the poor fellas aggression but it's clearly an ongoing issue as the owner knew that he would attack and this dog lives outsifde in tiny pen while the two other dogs live indoors, it's very sad to see since Boxers love their people so much and really need to be part of the family to be happy. My own dog is a Boxer too so I know and love the breed.

Love2u

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

I doubt the cause is to do with the dogs in my estate as they never roam from the estate strangely enough. I can't say what the cause of the poor fellas aggression but it's clearly an ongoing issue as the owner knew that he would attack and this dog lives outsifde in tiny pen while the two other dogs live indoors, it's very sad to see since Boxers love their people so much and really need to be part of the family to be happy. My own dog is a Boxer too so I know and love the breed.

Do something about it Before a child gets attacked. Report the issue ASAP. Sick of people letting dogs free like that!

ShaShaBear

Love2u wrote: »

Do something about it Before a child gets attacked. Report the issue ASAP. Sick of people letting dogs free like that!

But nowhere in the original post, nor anywhere else, does it say the boxer is aggressive to children? I'd be more concerned about the pack than the single boxer!

boomerang

bumper234 wrote: »

this.
I myself would have no problem telling the guards that the dogs ARE being aggressive towards children if it means they will get off their arses and get some wardens around to do something.

Falsely accusing the dogs of being aggressive towards kids? Are you serious? Don't you know the kind of hysteria that creates? The dogs could end up forcibly euthanised by the warden as a result.

IvySlayer

Defintely make sure the Gardaí/Dog Warden know about this.

We had a similar problem with a huge sheepdog, every morning the owner would leave for work in his van and the dog would run after him on the road. Also likes to chase cars on his way back home. Tended to chase small dogs, tried to go after my Westie, he met my foot and ran off.

His wife though has him under control, doesn't misbehave around her. Gardaí/dog warden weren't interested.

Eventually we got fed up and confronted him, it has worked.

OP, get your dog first class treatment and send him the bill. The law is simple, the owner is liable for injury or damage caused by their dog.

Going to be a bad ending to this story one way or the other.
If you don't do anything a child could get bitten and badly scarred.
If you call police/pound the dog will be destroyed.
All roads lead from the terrible owner, breaks my heart to hear about dogs like that, not the dogs fault but the lazy owners.

borderlinemeath

Love2u wrote: »

Do something about it Before a child gets attacked. Report the issue ASAP. Sick of people letting dogs free like that!

Originally Posted by bumper234
I myself would have no problem telling the guards that the dogs ARE being aggressive towards children if it means they will get off their arses and get some wardens around to do something.

It never ceases to amaze me, the amount of people who automatically assume because a dog is dog aggressive then it must be a child killer too. They don't bat an eyelid at a dog chasing a cat because 'ah sure dogs just don't like cats', they don't shudder and think, "call the warden before that dog chasing the cat attacks a child!":rolleyes:

OP that's a horrible situation to be in. I'd be reporting that guy to the warden, he doesn't deserve to keep a dog if that's the way he goes on. Your poor dog, and as ShaSha said, god knows what he does to his own dog in his own home if he's happy to let you correct him with a stick.:(

Love2u

ShaShaBear wrote: »

But nowhere in the original post, nor anywhere else, does it say the boxer is aggressive to children? I'd be more concerned about the pack than the single boxer!

The dog is aggressive period!! The dog is let out on the street unleashed, the owner shouldn't have dogs in his possession.

borderlinemeath

Love2u wrote: »

The dog is aggressive period!! The dog is let out on the street unleashed, the owner shouldn't have dogs in his possession.

Where's the proof of this? Your own conjecture??

No, the owner shouldn't have a dog, but to assume it's aggressive to both dogs and people/children is making a huge assumtion. The dog could be rehomed to a family without dogs and may get on great with kids. But sure just scream he's 'aggressive period' and label him a child killer why don't you.

mattser

Ah, another bold doggie " sure he won't go near ya " thread. The country has gone barking mad, I say, barking mad.

borderlinemeath

mattser wrote: »

Ah, another bold doggie " sure he won't go near ya " thread. The country has gone barking mad, I say, barking mad.

Eh, no. Did you read the OP?

Yer man knew his dog was dog aggressive, so tried to give the OP a stick to hit him with. He knew well his dog would react, and still chose to let him out to roam and attack other dogs.

Tranceypoo

Won't someone think of the children.....:rolleyes:

Love2u

mattser wrote: »

Ah, another bold doggie " sure he won't go near ya " thread. The country has gone barking mad, I say, barking mad.

"Barking mad", yep barking mad for not reading the full thread before you post woof woof

Love2u

borderlinemeath wrote: »

Where's the proof of this? Your own conjecture??

No, the owner shouldn't have a dog, but to assume it's aggressive to both dogs and people/children is making a huge assumtion. The dog could be rehomed to a family without dogs and may get on great with kids. But sure just scream he's 'aggressive period' and label him a child killer why don't you.

The fact is the dog is aggressive and I woundnt suggest the dog be rehomed with children or other dogs until it has been trained. Understand!??