First year Arts Advice!

Robynne

Hello there,
As I'm absolutely thrilled to say I am now a student at UCC and am filled with excitement, I'm still nervous at the same time! I really can't wait, but I'm just hoping I make the right decisions subject wise.
So I'm begging for advice, tips, experiences, things you loved, things that weren't too enjoyable.. absolutely anything at all! Think of me as being clueless, so anything you want to say or felt about arts spill
I love english and so that is a definite subject for me, along with art history which I really love as well.... after that I'm a little stumped, but I've narrowed it down to two of , either history, geography, sociology and philosophy but advice or thoughts on other subjects is more than welcome!
Thank you for your time, I really appreciate it!

HoggyRS

History was very straight forward in first year, should be an easy pass for you. I'd avoid celtic civilisation like the plague. My year we were all told that was the "easy course" to do, so me and all my buddies did it but found it impossible and ended up with repeats in it!

Robynne

And is it all Irish history ? I don't mind it, but I don't love it.
Oh ok! Will do so haha thanks!

IHeartChemistry

Sociology is also an easy pass if you go to classes and do the assignments :pac: It all comes down to personal preference and Sociology is interesting and I loved it enough in the module to keep it on and will hopefully be going into 3rd year doing a Single Honours degree in it You get two assignments in the module and an end of year exam. I'd recommend doing it!

Philosophy is all continuous assesment, you go to tutorials and do 4 MCQ's. Easy module to get out of the way if you go to tutorials and do the work for the MCQ's. I didn't like the module, but it all comes down to personal preference. Philosophy and Sociology are a good combo in first year, fairly similar material.

I'd say maybe go look at last year's Sociology and Philosophy booklets, do some reading and see what you like! You'll find them on the department websites

Luno

Geography is fine in first year, there's alot of overlap with physical geography from the LC but you'll be introduced to new things too like cultural geography. It's very straight forward and they are really helpful with regards to submitting coursework etc.

chaoskitten_DF

HoggyRS wrote: »

History was very straight forward in first year, should be an easy pass for you. I'd avoid celtic civilisation like the plague. My year we were all told that was the "easy course" to do, so me and all my buddies did it but found it impossible and ended up with repeats in it!

I'm a final year Celtic Civ major, I dunno who told you it was an easy course but they need their head examined...
It's certainly a passable course, the vast majority of those I encountered in first year who told me they were struggling had made little to no attempt to attend lectures or even read the course material- it's not that difficult, broken down versions on the internet can even give you the basics to pass (Though I recommend reading the actual sources). I recommended a friend to read a children's version of the Táin and she passed.....
Granted a rough idea of Irish mythology is useful, it's not essential- I know American foreign students who were studying science degrees and passed the course no problem.

Congrats to the OP
I would avoid Folklore- it did my head in with the constant repetition in class and bland un-varied topics.
Religions is interesting for the most part- just don't leave the journal until the end like I did :P
Archaeology is an interesting one too (I'm doing a minor in it)

Fabio

One bit of advice (I'm finished my BA with a few years but am still in UCC) - do not go along with the crowd just because you think it's the best thing to do and that you'll make loads of friends etc.

Develop your own sense of direction and do your own decision-making. Look up the courses and modules you would like to do, read up on them all (the web is a big place!) and then make a decision. Don't mind people saying "oh this is easy" or "do this and you'll pass easily" etc. It is easy to pass Arts full stop. It is difficult to do well (only about 10% get 1Hs at the end of the BA). You can muddle by if you like and it'll be no big deal but if you want to really do well you need to put the work in. This counts to all modules.

Go look at your options and make your decisions by yourself (by all means ask the opinions of others but ultimately go your own way). Always ask questions of what you read and hear, always be curious. You're going to love it.

Nicole.

Congrats, I was in your position last year. I'm just finished English, history, geography and politics. The best piece of advice I can give you is to go to your lectures as much as possible, if anything it helps you to meet more people. It is also much easier to do the assignments if you've been to class because they give you a direction to steer you in the right path. Be prepared to learn in a completely new way, to construct an argument instead of route learning. you have a couple of weeks to change your mind after you originally pick your subjects so go to as many lectures in as many different subjects as you can.

If you want to do English put it at the top of your preferences, it fills up really fast. Geography fills up quickly too, you wouldn't think it though because attendance was not good. Do the continuous assessment, it is difficult to pass if you don't do it. There are some marks for going to tutorials in some subjects like English, tutorials also help to improve your grades as you can ask the tutor questions etc. As others have said do subjects that you enjoy because obviously if you enjoy something you will work harder at it.

There's much more to history than just Irish history which is good, you study Roman history etc too. The geography dept are very helpful and they have a lot of access to resources. They do the best they can to help you pass.

Good luck and most importantly enjoy yourself!

chaoskitten_DF

Fabio wrote: »

One bit of advice (I'm finished my BA with a few years but am still in UCC) - do not go along with the crowd just because you think it's the best thing to do and that you'll make loads of friends etc.

Develop your own sense of direction and do your own decision-making. Look up the courses and modules you would like to do, read up on them all (the web is a big place!) and then make a decision. Don't mind people saying "oh this is easy" or "do this and you'll pass easily" etc. It is easy to pass Arts full stop. It is difficult to do well (only about 10% get 1Hs at the end of the BA). You can muddle by if you like and it'll be no big deal but if you want to really do well you need to put the work in. This counts to all modules.

Go look at your options and make your decisions by yourself (by all means ask the opinions of others but ultimately go your own way). Always ask questions of what you read and hear, always be curious. You're going to love it.

This definitely! I know people who hate the subjects they picked and struggled and they only picked it because they thought it was 'easy' and all their friends were there This is your time to branch out a bit

Nicole. wrote: »

Congrats, I was in your position last year. I'm just finished English, history, geography and politics. The best piece of advice I can give you is to go to your lectures as much as possible, if anything it helps you to meet more people. It is also much easier to do the assignments if you've been to class because they give you a direction to steer you in the right path. Be prepared to learn in a completely new way, to construct an argument instead of route learning. you have a couple of weeks to change your mind after you originally pick your subjects so go to as many lectures in as many different subjects as you can.

If you want to do English put it at the top of your preferences, it fills up really fast. Geography fills up quickly too, you wouldn't think it though because attendance was not good. Do the continuous assessment, it is difficult to pass if you don't do it. There are some marks for going to tutorials in some subjects like English, tutorials also help to improve your grades as you can ask the tutor questions etc. As others have said do subjects that you enjoy because obviously if you enjoy something you will work harder at it.

There's much more to history than just Irish history which is good, you study Roman history etc too. The geography dept are very helpful and they have a lot of access to resources. They do the best they can to help you pass.

Good luck and most importantly enjoy yourself!

History gets quite intense and heavy after first year (my boyfriend is doing it) so be warned, also if you dislike Irish history (1916, etc) be careful because they're the core modules.

Go to your tutorials too! Especially if you pick Celtic Civ- if you are having problems the tutors are very good and will help you


I strongly recommend you look at the past exam papers (available through the library site), that'll give you a good idea of the course content for everything I did that and it really helped me.

Robynne

Thank you everyone for the great advice! Of course Ill make decisions myself on what I think is best... Id hardly pick something just because someone said it was easy .... Something is only easy (well most of the time) If its something you enjoy doing! Im so excited But I just wanted feedback from what people thought on everything arts... Im afraid english, geography, history of art and history is a really heavy bunch of subjects... Like Im not expecting to go to college just for the laugh , I know its going to be tough, but im afraid Im making it too tough for myself!

shane9689

avoid 9 a.m starts in first year like the plague if you can despite your current enthusiasm right now, it will dwindle... along with your sleeping pattern

Robynne

hahah! Yeah I'm not a great morning person, but I managed 9am starts since I was 5, and this is the first time I've made a choice education wise so I won't mind getting up for something I've actually decided to do myself But yeah, my sleeping pattern is already knackered! Ill be living off starbucks!

chaoskitten_DF

Robynne wrote: »

Thank you everyone for the great advice! Of course Ill make decisions myself on what I think is best... Id hardly pick something just because someone said it was easy .... Something is only easy (well most of the time) If its something you enjoy doing! Im so excited But I just wanted feedback from what people thought on everything arts... Im afraid english, geography, history of art and history is a really heavy bunch of subjects... Like Im not expecting to go to college just for the laugh , I know its going to be tough, but im afraid Im making it too tough for myself!

You have the right attitude!
Remember that if you aren't happy in a certain subject there is a time-frame you can switch in Good luck and I hope you enjoy first year as much as I did (Try join some societies too, they're great craic!)

shane9689 wrote: »

avoid 9 a.m starts in first year like the plague if you can despite your current enthusiasm right now, it will dwindle... along with your sleeping pattern

I wouldn't recommend that XD I know that some lecturers give out the most important info in those because a lot don't turn up XD
Just get decent sleep nights before those OP and you'll be grand- it's worked so far for me XD

Robynne

Yeah I'm just so happy about it all because I was convinced I was going to be repeating and I did way better than I thought, so Im still in shock, and all the excitement people had about their courses all year I never had because I didn't want to get my hopes up! So now its a big outburst of excitement! When I accepted the course I was so happy, but then I realised , "Oh S***, I need to pick subjects!" haha, I literally put very little thought into arts because I was so afraid Id be dissapointed
Yeah I really intend on getting a good routine going for myself, I think College will suit me and so Ill enjoy it.. so hopefully early mornings wont be too bad!
Plus, myself and my primary school best friend are finally going to be together again, shes doing arts too which I wasnt expecting at all, so in fact I know Ill love it

chaoskitten_DF

Robynne wrote: »

Yeah I'm just so happy about it all because I was convinced I was going to be repeating and I did way better than I thought, so Im still in shock, and all the excitement people had about their courses all year I never had because I didn't want to get my hopes up! So now its a big outburst of excitement! When I accepted the course I was so happy, but then I realised , "Oh S***, I need to pick subjects!" haha, I literally put very little thought into arts because I was so afraid Id be dissapointed
Yeah I really intend on getting a good routine going for myself, I think College will suit me and so Ill enjoy it.. so hopefully early mornings wont be too bad!
Plus, myself and my primary school best friend are finally going to be together again, shes doing arts too which I wasnt expecting at all, so in fact I know Ill love it

I was in a similar boat! Got sick in 6th Year and nearly failed my LC as a result. But I got offered a place through the HEAR to go to Cork and it was the best decision ever
I came to Cork knowing no-one and I made friends, you'll be grand

Robynne

oh no but atleast it worked out!
Oh I know it will be grand! If I cant make friends in a year group as big as arts then theres a serious problem! haha

chaoskitten_DF

Robynne wrote: »

oh no but atleast it worked out!
Oh I know it will be grand! If I cant make friends in a year group as big as arts then theres a serious problem! haha

Aye
Exactly! I made most of my friends through societies, give them a go and don't be afraid to go up and say hi to the others We don't bite

shane9689

chaoskitten_DF wrote: »

You have the right attitude!
Remember that if you aren't happy in a certain subject there is a time-frame you can switch in Good luck and I hope you enjoy first year as much as I did (Try join some societies too, they're great craic!)



I wouldn't recommend that XD I know that some lecturers give out the most important info in those because a lot don't turn up XD
Just get decent sleep nights before those OP and you'll be grand- it's worked so far for me XD

thats my point! is dont pick modules that are at 9! because they do put all the good info on those days, so if you pick those lectures youre screwed! haha unless you never go to bed late...but bah! haha

chaoskitten_DF

shane9689 wrote: »

haha unless you never go to bed late...but bah! haha

Go to bed late but get up anyway XD I've done it so many times... :P

KingaC1401

I'll be doing the same course as you and I am having the same problem! I picked my 3 subjects (English, Psychology and Sociology) and I am really stuck on the last one have you made any decisions yet?:)

jgjm

An Leann Duchais is now known as Béaloideas.
is it through this subject is taught through irish language.
is it difficult not a native irish speaker....
I want to study irish but want to study both béaloideas and gaeilge to improve my knowledge , fluency of the language

chaoskitten_DF

jgjm wrote: »

An Leann Duchais is now known as Béaloideas.
is it through this subject is taught through irish language.
is it difficult not a native irish speaker....
I want to study irish but want to study both béaloideas and gaeilge to improve my knowledge , fluency of the language

There are Irish classes on offer in UCC that it may be worth your while looking into
Also there is a very good Irish-speaking society you should check out

rebel girl 15

Lightweights on here :P

Lot of my class made an athletics lecture at 9am on Friday after being out the night before, and if you are living in Cork its grand, go home and get a few hours sleep after!

Picking your subjects, you have to look at what you are going to do after arts, and what you want out of it. Do subjects you enjoy, but remember you might not get all your choices, especially if you are picking three or four popular courses and look further than this course, what are you doing afterwards

Robynne

KingaC1401 wrote: »

I'll be doing the same course as you and I am having the same problem! I picked my 3 subjects (English, Psychology and Sociology) and I am really stuck on the last one have you made any decisions yet?:)

Well Ill be seeing you in english anyway Ive no idea though, I'm so stumped, I dont want to just pick something for the sake of it I wanted to do psychology but its on the same time as art history
Decisions, decisions, decisions!

Robynne

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Lightweights on here :P

Lot of my class made an athletics lecture at 9am on Friday after being out the night before, and if you are living in Cork its grand, go home and get a few hours sleep after!

Picking your subjects, you have to look at what you are going to do after arts, and what you want out of it. Do subjects you enjoy, but remember you might not get all your choices, especially if you are picking three or four popular courses and look further than this course, what are you doing afterwards

Im trying but I cant think of anything, and I dont know what I want to do afterwards... Possibly teaching but that depends on how well english and history go for me ... after that I dont really know of the other options I have from arts

chaoskitten_DF

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Lightweights on here :P

Lot of my class made an athletics lecture at 9am on Friday after being out the night before, and if you are living in Cork its grand, go home and get a few hours sleep after!

Picking your subjects, you have to look at what you are going to do after arts, and what you want out of it. Do subjects you enjoy, but remember you might not get all your choices, especially if you are picking three or four popular courses and look further than this course, what are you doing afterwards

^This.

I don't drink so I had it easier :P

Robynne wrote: »

Im trying but I cant think of anything, and I dont know what I want to do afterwards... Possibly teaching but that depends on how well english and history go for me ... after that I dont really know of the other options I have from arts

Teaching is not your only option despite the stereotype Arts has, it opens quite a few diverse doors
I'm looking into research and lecturing as an option alongside working as a manuscript translator and working in the National Library too to name a few.
Check out the Master's programmes too and make an appointment with the career guidance as they might be able to give you some guidance

IHeartChemistry

The first year Sociology booklet is here if you wanna see what it'll be like? Might help with decisions

http://www.ucc.ie/en/sociology/current/cundergraduate/firstyrbookletFINAL27.08.13.pdf

Fabio

Robynne wrote: »

Thank you everyone for the great advice! Of course Ill make decisions myself on what I think is best... Id hardly pick something just because someone said it was easy .... Something is only easy (well most of the time) If its something you enjoy doing! Im so excited But I just wanted feedback from what people thought on everything arts... Im afraid english, geography, history of art and history is a really heavy bunch of subjects... Like Im not expecting to go to college just for the laugh , I know its going to be tough, but im afraid Im making it too tough for myself!

Nah you'll be fine. The Leaving Cert is the hardest thing you will ever do (with the possible exception of a PhD....ask me how I know hahaha!) so don't worry about it being tough. You'll be fine.

chaoskitten_DF

College is easier in the sense that if you're doing something you enjoy and find interesting you're more likely to put the work in and find the work easier as it's not forced like most of the LC work was. Plus there's little to no traditional rote-learning usually.
If you keep on top of your reading and assignments you should be fine

Robynne

chaoskitten_DF wrote: »

^This.

I don't drink so I had it easier :P



Teaching is not your only option despite the stereotype Arts has, it opens quite a few diverse doors
I'm looking into research and lecturing as an option alongside working as a manuscript translator and working in the National Library too to name a few.
Check out the Master's programmes too and make an appointment with the career guidance as they might be able to give you some guidance

Oh wow ok Thanks! I think my problem is I haven't found what I want yet! I feel like teaching is my only option because its the only thing Ive been interested in bar animals haha... But thats all good to hear! Thank you!

chaoskitten_DF

Robynne wrote: »

Oh wow ok Thanks! I think my problem is I haven't found what I want yet! I feel like teaching is my only option because its the only thing Ive been interested in bar animals haha... But thats all good to hear! Thank you!

Don't worry! You have plenty of time.
No problem! :cool:

Robynne

IHeartChemistry wrote: »

The first year Sociology booklet is here if you wanna see what it'll be like? Might help with decisions

http://www.ucc.ie/en/sociology/current/cundergraduate/firstyrbookletFINAL27.08.13.pdf

oh brilliant Ill have a look! thanks

Robynne

Fabio wrote: »

Nah you'll be fine. The Leaving Cert is the hardest thing you will ever do (with the possible exception of a PhD....ask me how I know hahaha!) so don't worry about it being tough. You'll be fine.

how do you know ? hahah
ok so thanks

shane9689

man, kind of excited to get back to college again.
bit of advice for the newbies.... pre-drink! and buy it in massive bulk! preferably beer, youll be dead from the spirits because youll be going out more than you think haha (if you do drink, better you dont). dont waste money on drinks in the clubs the first week. i did that because i was being sociable with mates and all that taking shots but looking back i didnt really need to haha...god, 50 euro gone in seconds

chaoskitten_DF

shane9689 wrote: »

man, kind of excited to get back to college again.
bit of advice for the newbies.... pre-drink! and buy it in massive bulk! preferably beer, youll be dead from the spirits because youll be going out more than you think haha (if you do drink, better you dont). dont waste money on drinks in the clubs the first week. i did that because i was being sociable with mates and all that taking shots but looking back i didnt really need to haha...god, 50 euro gone in seconds

Same!

Just as a point from someone who's seen quite a bit in the years I've been here and would like to pass on some advice from another viewpoint.
I'd say don't drink/keep it to a reasonable level- I know most people like a drink and going out but I know a lot of first years who went out of control and messed it up for themselves or got injured because of it XD
Just if you do pre-drink, don't go overboard- I've lived with people who did and seen a lot of them make things harder for themselves in college with money/actually getting stuff done or get hurt (I'm talking to the point of surgery needed).
I actually have a better social life than most of the binge drinkers I know ironically.
Just mind yourself OP, I'd hate to see another go down that road

Qwertpo

I am also doing arts and have picked my subjects but i chose Geography without doing it for the LC only because it was the one i hated the least and most of the options were languages which i hated. Just wondering if Geog will be difficult having not sat it for the LC?

Qwertpo

Also with the two Arts groups for orientation does that mean we are pretty much seperate groups for the whole year? Because all the people i know are in the group a-m :P or is that just for orientation day.?

chaoskitten_DF

Qwertpo wrote: »

Also with the two Arts groups for orientation does that mean we are pretty much seperate groups for the whole year? Because all the people i know are in the group a-m :P or is that just for orientation day.?

It's just for orientation day The Arts group is so big that it's easier to split it for the orientation (the room used for the main talk wouldn't fit everyone in too)- it's around 1200 in total if memory serves me right...
I was in a-m too XD

I don't think you have to have done Geog for the LC, best thing would be to go to a few lectures and see how you get on. You can always switch to something else if you feel it's not right for you (there's a deadline to switch though just remember).

shane9689

chaoskitten_DF wrote: »

Same!

Just as a point from someone who's seen quite a bit in the years I've been here and would like to pass on some advice from another viewpoint.
I'd say don't drink/keep it to a reasonable level- I know most people like a drink and going out but I know a lot of first years who went out of control and messed it up for themselves or got injured because of it XD
Just if you do pre-drink, don't go overboard- I've lived with people who did and seen a lot of them make things harder for themselves in college with money/actually getting stuff done or get hurt (I'm talking to the point of surgery needed).
I actually have a better social life than most of the binge drinkers I know ironically.
Just mind yourself OP, I'd hate to see another go down that road

i would say the same. don't drink (ive become a health freak over the past few months so im cutting back drink in a major way too) but to be fair, i don't think a first year student who most likely just turned 18 is going to honestly take that advice. so i decided to give some money saving tips instead :P

Robynne

Well Im actually 19( Oh I know, I'm pushing on!) haha... And I'm not maaaaaaaaaad into going out really at all! I think everything is just habbit! And I've been working full time all summer, that I dont have energy to go out if Im honest and so I'm actually not bothered about it now! Don't get me wrong , I'm no dry b*lls either, but I most definitely won't be party mad! So ye had an easy time convincing me! :P
Its getting closer now, I can't wait as nerdy as that sounds! Subject choices will be the death of me hahah.. Im so annoyed that psychology and art history are in the same grouping They're two that I really wanted to do Thats why Im finding it hard! because I'm definitely going to do history and english... having to pick one of the two is hard, and trying to pick a fourth now for the sake of it is even harder!

chaoskitten_DF

shane9689 wrote: »

i would say the same. don't drink (ive become a health freak over the past few months so im cutting back drink in a major way too) but to be fair, i don't think a first year student who most likely just turned 18 is going to honestly take that advice. so i decided to give some money saving tips instead :P

XD Some would!
Fair play to you, I just decided not to when I was 15 and I stuck to it
The money saving advice though is useful when it's December or May and you're eating noodles everyday XD

Robynne wrote: »

Well Im actually 19( Oh I know, I'm pushing on!) haha... And I'm not maaaaaaaaaad into going out really at all! I think everything is just habbit! And I've been working full time all summer, that I dont have energy to go out if Im honest and so I'm actually not bothered about it now! Don't get me wrong , I'm no dry b*lls either, but I most definitely won't be party mad! So ye had an easy time convincing me! :P
Its getting closer now, I can't wait as nerdy as that sounds! Subject choices will be the death of me hahah.. Im so annoyed that psychology and art history are in the same grouping They're two that I really wanted to do Thats why Im finding it hard! because I'm definitely going to do history and english... having to pick one of the two is hard, and trying to pick a fourth now for the sake of it is even harder!

I was 19 too in first year (I'm 21 now ).
Same, I go out sometimes but prefer to stay in more to be honest because I like to relax.
I remember in first year in the Village all my flatmates would head out on Thursday nights (that's the big party night in Cork coz Fridays usually only have a single class or two at most) and when they were gone I'd rob the living room and tv for the night XD Pj's galore! XD

Ah that sucks!
Make sure you check out the exam papers when it comes to choosing your subjects, they'll give you an idea of what the course entails and you'll know whether you're interested or not in it.
As a tip, check out Vibes & Scribes on the quays because they have some of the History and English books secondhand there (perfect condition) too at the moment It'll save you quite a bit of money.
Also when it comes to History, if you can photocopy everything you'll need for the exams early you'll save yourself a lot of trouble- study month gets crazy for finding certain books XD

DonallFitz

chaoskitten_DF, you seem to know alot about Arts, is it a really as broad of course as they say it is? As in after you graduate will your career options be wide open? You wouldn't be snookered into becoming a teacher?

Corkfeen

DonallFitz wrote: »

chaoskitten_DF, you seem to know alot about Arts, is it a really as broad of course as they say it is? As in after you graduate will your career options be wide open? You wouldn't be snookered into becoming a teacher?

There really is a ton of options, for myself I'm continuing my education and entering an entirely different field. But that's not to say that I haven't learned a ton of beneficial skills from the course. I never intended on becoming a teacher and I could have remained in my field without having to resort to becoming a teacher.

chaoskitten_DF

DonallFitz wrote: »

chaoskitten_DF, you seem to know alot about Arts, is it a really as broad of course as they say it is? As in after you graduate will your career options be wide open? You wouldn't be snookered into becoming a teacher?

It really is. The whole 'Arts is just for teaching' is really just a stereotype, off the top of my head I can only think of two friends who want to be teachers in Arts. Everyone else has vastly different goals
The only course I can think of in Arts that is the most geared towards teaching is History because there's a strong emphasis on modern Irish history- but even then there's other options not taught in schools

Corkfeen wrote: »

There really is a ton of options, for myself I'm continuing my education and entering an entirely different field. But that's not to say that I haven't learned a ton of beneficial skills from the course. I never intended on becoming a teacher and I could have remained in my field without having to resort to becoming a teacher.

Exactly!
I couldn't become a secondary school teacher with my subjects really (Major in Celtic Civ & Minor in Archaeology).

Robynne

Well I finally picked my subjects! English, History, Geography and psychology! Thanks everyone for all the advice!
I cant find much about psychology on the website though? can someone help me out please?

chaoskitten_DF

Robynne wrote: »

Well I finally picked my subjects! English, History, Geography and psychology! Thanks everyone for all the advice!
I cant find much about psychology on the website though? can someone help me out please?

Great. Remember what I said about Vibes & Scribes on the quays, they have a lot of the History and English books cheaper
Not too sure about psychology, it's fairly tough as far as I know but interesting

Robynne

Oh yeah, brilliant thanks!
Yeah I heard its tough too, But I hope I like it!!

chaoskitten_DF

Robynne wrote: »

Oh yeah, brilliant thanks!
Yeah I heard its tough too, But I hope I like it!!

I'm sure you'll be grand and if you don't like it you can switch to something else up to a date sometime in October (not sure the date but it's probably in the info you were given )