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    #362
    2nd Row Donkey
    Registered Users Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    irishmover wrote: »
    Tottenham have recovered more points from losing positions than any other team in the PL (12).

    Either we're losing a lot in games or Poch has the team in good fitness. Interesting stat though.

    .. seem to recall we had a similar statistic under Harry during his renaissance at one stage too.
    .. After going months of losing games that we went behind in (under Ramos and Jol) we gradually developed a knack of coming from behind to claim draws or wins.


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    #363
    gar
    Registered Users Posts: 1,099 ✭✭✭gar


    Sure united used to be infamous for coming from behind. It's a good stat to have. Again better to not have to come from behind but it shows resilliance and spirit


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    #364
    slegs
    Registered Users Posts: 3,013 ✭✭✭slegs


    The fitness thing is definitely a factor. You can sense that we take control of games late on and that a goal is coming.


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    #365
    mushykeogh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭mushykeogh


    We have an absolute shedload of games between now and the end of January.


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    #366
    2nd Row Donkey
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    mushykeogh wrote: »
    We have an absolute shedload of games between now and the end of January.

    We do indeed. Make or break time ... and the EL games aren't far off either :(


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    #367
    Ormus
    Registered Users Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭Ormus


    We have a massive squad. Probably 3 full teams. No real excuse for not using it now. Can't play the A team in every match.


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    #368
    Hatch99
    Registered Users Posts: 5,395 ✭✭✭Hatch99


    Ormus wrote: »
    We have a massive squad. Probably 3 full teams. No real excuse for not using it now. Can't play the A team in every match.

    Fully agree. Massive squad, games for everyone is good


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    #369
    richardjjd
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭richardjjd


    mushykeogh wrote: »
    We have an absolute shedload of games between now and the end of January.

    Jan 10 away to Palace (premiership)
    Some time next week home to Burnley (FA Cup)
    Jan 17 home to Sunderland (prem)
    Jan 21 home to Sheffield U (league cup)
    Jan 24 FA Cup 4th round
    Jan 28 away to Sheffield U (league cup)
    Jan 31 away to W Brom (prem)

    All winnable ...

    We could end up fighting on four fronts - Europa, League Cup, FA Cup and premiership - not that I'd have it any other way!


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    #370
    irishmover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    richardjjd wrote: »
    Jan 10 away to Palace (premiership)
    Some time next week home to Burnley (FA Cup)
    Jan 17 home to Sunderland (prem)
    Jan 21 home to Sheffield U (league cup)
    Jan 24 FA Cup 4th round
    Jan 28 away to Sheffield U (league cup)
    Jan 31 away to W Brom (prem)

    All winnable ...

    We could end up fighting on four fronts - Europa, League Cup, FA Cup and premiership - not that I'd have it any other way!

    Ugh... Optimism. We're doomed!


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    #371
    Devo from Dublin
    Registered Users Posts: 610 ✭✭✭Devo from Dublin


    Knowing our Luck...

    Chelsea will beat us in the Capitol one cup final..and they win the League..
    (We get the Europa League spot?).

    We come 4th in the League.....
    Arsenal come 5th....

    We win the Europa League..( because we are having a titanic battle with Arsenal for 4th spot)..

    Arsenal who come 5th....STILL get Champions League!!!


    Wouldnt rule it out!!!!!


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    #372
    richardjjd
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭richardjjd


    irishmover wrote: »
    Ugh... Optimism. We're doomed!

    Indeed. I'm still expecting us to screw up last Thursday's game v Chelsea.


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    #373
    golfball37
    Registered Users Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭golfball37


    Devo from Dublin wrote: »
    Knowing our Luck...

    Chelsea will beat us in the Capitol one cup final..and they win the League..
    (We get the Europa League spot?).

    We come 4th in the League.....
    Arsenal come 5th....

    We win the Europa League..( because we are having a titanic battle with Arsenal for 4th spot)..

    Arsenal who come 5th....STILL get Champions League!!!


    Wouldnt rule it out!!!!!

    Only 4 teams from one country can get into the CL I think. If we win EL and finish 6th then I believe 4th in the EPL will miss out.
    Also League Cup Runners up don't get a Europa spot in any circumstances, you have to win the trophy.


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    #374
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,176 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    If we win the EL, we get CL qualification regardless of our league position. Couldn't care less who else gets in if we do.


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    #375
    2nd Row Donkey
    Registered Users Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    richardjjd wrote: »

    • Jan 10 away to Palace (premiership)
    • Some time next week home to Burnley (FA Cup)
    • Jan 17 home to Sunderland (prem)
    • Jan 21 home to Sheffield U (league cup)
    • Jan 24 FA Cup 4th round
    • Jan 28 away to Sheffield U (league cup)
    • Jan 31 away to W Brom (prem)

    You'd have to assume that Poch will play his strongest XI in the 2 games vs Sheff United.

    He'll probably play weakened teams again Burnley and Leicester (if we beat Burnley that is)

    And then there's the small matter of 3 EPL games ... which will probably be a mix of our first XI and fringe players.

    Potentially 7 games in 21 days between the 10th and 31st (or a game every 3 days on average). Yikes


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    #376
    slegs
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    2nd Row Donkey wrote: »
    You'd have to assume that Poch will play his strongest XI in the 2 games vs Sheff United.

    He'll probably play weakened teams again Burnley and Leicester (if we beat Burnley that is)

    And then there's the small matter of 3 EPL games ... which will probably be a mix of our first XI and fringe players.

    Potentially 7 games in 21 days between the 10th and 31st (or a game every 3 days on average). Yikes

    One at a time and we will be fine. We owe Palace a game after the poor showing we put up at the Lane before Christmas


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    #377
    DubPerryman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,284 ✭✭✭DubPerryman


    richardjjd wrote: »
    Jan 10 away to Palace (premiership)
    Some time next week home to Burnley (FA Cup)
    Jan 17 home to Sunderland (prem)
    Jan 21 home to Sheffield U (league cup)
    Jan 24 FA Cup 4th round
    Jan 28 away to Sheffield U (league cup)
    Jan 31 away to W Brom (prem)

    4 handy enough games at home if we beat Burnley.


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    #378
    pleasant Co.
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    I feel this reminder is necessary at this point, we haven't had many handy games this season.....


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    #379
    2nd Row Donkey
    Registered Users Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    13 points off the top.

    I'm like a giddy goat.


    I know in my heart of heart that 4th is a pipe dream but until the bloody EL Thursday night games return and our form inevitable dips, we can dream...


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    #380
    mickman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    2nd Row Donkey wrote: »
    13 points off the top.

    I'm like a giddy goat.


    I know in my heart of heart that 4th is a pipe dream but until the bloody EL Thursday night games return and our form inevitable dips, we can dream...

    4th is not a pipe dream. This team is oozing confidence and every played has now bought into the hard work ethic gat brings results

    We could win thd Europa league which give us champs league anyway


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    #381
    richardjjd
    Registered Users Posts: 524 ✭✭✭richardjjd


    I appreciate you can't compare any two seasons, because at any point you'll have played different teams, but this is where we are compared to the last few years (thanks to Statto.com for the historical tables) ... all seasons after 23 games

    Season|Pts|GD|final position
    2014/15|40|+5|5th currently
    2013/14|43|-1|6th
    2012/13|41|+12|5th
    2011/12|49|+19|4th

    But there was a lot of disruption over the summer and we had a poor start. When you think we were 11th at the beginning of October; 14th at the beginning of November and 9th at the beginning of December, we've been on a consistently strong run (now unbeaten in the last six home league games) - we've also played more games than any other Premiership team.

    Is 4th out of reach? I don't think Southampton will hold on ... and Man U will slip up again ... but Arsenal and Liverpool will be there or thereabouts (so the next two games home to Arsenal and away to 'Pool are important enough!). I think it'll all come down to the last couple of games ... and I'm glad we're out of the FA cup!


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    #382
    mushykeogh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭mushykeogh


    15 games left, cant see 4th place going to a team with less than 65 points?.
    Anything over 60 points would be a great first season for Poch really. Can we get 8 + wins from here on in?


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    #383
    slegs
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    mushykeogh wrote: »
    15 games left, cant see 4th place going to a team with less than 65 points?.
    Anything over 60 points would be a great first season for Poch really. Can we get 8 + wins from here on in?

    We should expect to get 8 wins from 15 games minimum


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    #384
    pleasant Co.
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    slegs wrote: »
    We should expect to get 8 wins from 15 games minimum

    Which is great to see, I remember that being a pipe dream :pac:


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    #385
    irishmover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    For Jesus sake lads... Can we please keep calling this a transitional season. Things have been going well just as it was now we're starting to get our hopes up again....


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    #386
    mass_debater
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    irishmover wrote: »
    For Jesus sake lads... Can we please keep calling this a transitional season. Things have been going well just as it was now we're starting to get our hopes up again....

    Exactly, I'd still be happy with sixth and a manager being backed


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    #387
    mickman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭mickman


    irishmover wrote: »
    For Jesus sake lads... Can we please keep calling this a transitional season. Things have been going well just as it was now we're starting to get our hopes up again....

    It may have started as a transition but it's rapidly beginning very impressive

    Cup and 4th would be awesome

    Cup and europa cup would b even better


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    #388
    irishmover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,746 ✭✭✭irishmover


    mickman wrote: »
    It may have started as a transition but it's rapidly beginning very impressive

    Cup and 4th would be awesome

    Cup and europa cup would b even better

    You dont get it :( optimism almost always ruins our season..


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    #389
    mushykeogh
    Registered Users Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭mushykeogh


    irishmover wrote: »
    You dont get it :( optimism almost always ruins our season..

    But pessimism ruins your life! Its spurs, its all about the optimism!


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    #390
    Glebee
    Registered Users Posts: 6,639 ✭✭✭Glebee


    Lads, its Spurs were talking about, we all know what really going to happen. They get your hopes up and then Baam, they will let you down with a bang. Weve all seen it to many times before.


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    #391
    2nd Row Donkey
    Registered Users Posts: 9,731 ✭✭✭2nd Row Donkey


    Yeah. U only have to contrast the Chelsea game followed by the palace performance.


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