Dublin Bus route 46a

foggy_lad

stehyl15 wrote: »

The 33 is the longest route in dublin no questions needed to be asked

It falls short of the 65 to Ballyknockan by about 3km.

StreetLight

lxflyer wrote: »

The 26 would have a lower usage off-peak, but acts as a sweeper service along the Lucan QBC in the peak periods.

Dublin Bus themselves disagree with your assertion that Route 26 fulfils a role as a 'sweeper'. It's currently a waste of resources. Seeing a tri-axle VT sometimes operating the route carrying fresh air is just ridiculous.

See page 7 of this Dublin Bus draft submission to the NTA as part of a public service contract application:

http://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/March_2013_Dublin_Bus__REDACTED.pdf

LXFlyer

I'm not sure where there is a contradiction to what I said. The document sees the buses as continuing to operate on the N4.

The 26 is inter-worked with the 66 group and hence you will see larger buses at certain times.

The "sweeper" role is effectively what the 26 has always played, and that's what it was designed for in Network Direct.

If DB decide that it's no longer necessary subsequent to that then so be it. But that was the rationale for it.

Lifelike

Route 26 should be done away with ASAP, I don't think I've ever seen more than 3 or 4 people on board that bus. Even people living in Palmerstown prefer to get the 25a and 25b as they take a faster route into town and are more frequent. The 25, 66 and 67 groups could all do with a few more buses instead.

cdebru

StreetLight wrote: »

Dublin Bus themselves disagree with your assertion that Route 26 fulfils a role as a 'sweeper'. It's currently a waste of resources. Seeing a tri-axle VT sometimes operating the route carrying fresh air is just ridiculous.

See page 7 of this Dublin Bus draft submission to the NTA as part of a public service contract application:

http://www.nationaltransport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/March_2013_Dublin_Bus__REDACTED.pdf

You shouldn't VT buses are not supposed to operate on the 26.

StreetLight

cdebru wrote: »

You shouldn't VT buses are not supposed to operate on the 26.

Well, I do. Almost every day.

LXFlyer

It's down to the rosters - the 26 is fully integrated with the 66/66a/66b/66x. Buses operate across all five routes throughout the day - hence it's quite possible that a VT could do a trip on the 26 at some stage.

dfx-

cdebru wrote: »

You shouldn't VT buses are not supposed to operate on the 26.

You do see them, especially in the morning. Like back in the day when VT21 would run a 92 and then the 1640 51B from Aston Quay. A VT around Bawnogue was a sight to behold

If a VT sneaks out onto the 66 at night, it will be on the 26 at some stage. I've been on more than one. The 5pm 66B is usually a VT.

cdebru

StreetLight wrote: »

Well, I do. Almost every day.

lxflyer wrote: »

It's down to the rosters - the 26 is fully integrated with the 66/66a/66b/66x. Buses operate across all five routes throughout the day - hence it's quite possible that a VT could do a trip on the 26 at some stage.

dfx- wrote: »

You do see them, especially in the morning. Like back in the day when VT21 would run a 92 and then the 1640 51B from Aston Quay. A VT around Bawnogue was a sight to behold

If a VT sneaks out onto the 66 at night, it will be on the 26 at some stage. I've been on more than one. The 5pm 66B is usually a VT.

The VT can't safely make the turn on kennelsfort road so they are not allowed operate on the 26. That is why VTs are rarely on the 66 route they are only put on if that board has no 26 journeys on it.
The only way it could end up on a 26 is if the driver is unaware of this which is unlikely given they have no new staff in nearly 6 years and the controller misses it.

I wouldn't say it has never hsppened, I certainly have never seen one but anything is possible. It is not true that they are on it almost everyday.

GTE

AlekSmart wrote: »

For anybody who is interested in that era and the ability of CIE to innovate and do stuff for itself,it is worth noting that one of the last (If not THE last) parts of the original AVM (Automatic Vehicle Monitoring) system's constituent parts sits un-noticed on a lamp standard soon to be removed altogether.

The Street Lighting along the Cookstown Lane from the Belgard Inn up to Fettercairn is being replaced and new standards are now in place....yet there,sitting on the last pole before the Belgard Road junction (Inbound) is an SBD reciever.

SBD (Selective Bus Detection) was one of the spin-off elements of the AVM system and was designed to adjuct the Traffic Signal Phasing to favour Buses running late OR to delay Buses running ahead of time.

Dublin Fire Brigade and CIE equipped some of their fleets with the transponder units which communicated with the Lamp Standard mounted reciever...sadly after the initial and (AFAIK) successful trials,the AVM system was retired in favour of a digital upgrade,which was then itself delayed due to recession/lack of funding.....ah the passage of time and the learning of lessons ....:D

This long surviving evidence may well be already gone,as the pole concerned is not redundant so get there quick !!!!

Any photos or articles on its operation?

Sounds fascinating.